Nickell team
#2
Posted 2011-July-07, 02:58
-- Bertrand Russell
#3
Posted 2011-July-07, 05:32
It'd be nice to know the opinion of people in the know... of people close to Hamman...
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#4
Posted 2011-July-07, 06:58
mgoetze, on 2011-July-07, 02:58, said:
Actually I was thinking one third of a story - what's happening with team Fleisher?
-gwnn
#6
Posted 2011-July-07, 08:29
Hanoi5, on 2011-July-07, 05:32, said:
It'd be nice to know the opinion of people in the know... of people close to Hamman...
The Nickell team which had been so dominant was slowly declining (likely due to tougher competition), and had a disastrous 2010...for the first time in their history winning no nationals, and not winning the trials or world championships (that said, they were 2nd in the Rosenblum).
This year they haven't won anything, including not qualifying for the bermuda bowl for the first time in forever.
I don't think it's about anything like Zia being a solo artist, it is simply that they haven't had good results and that always causes changes to be made, this is true of all teams in all sports.
It was natural that it would be Levin and Weinstein as the replacements since they're so hot and probably in their prime right now. It was natural that the change would be made to the Hamman-Zia partnership since Meckwell are in or near their prime still, and one of the best pairs in the world (and just won the Europeans).
#7
Posted 2011-July-07, 08:38
Gerardo, on 2011-July-07, 08:13, said:
They will have to find another pair.
Hamman-Zia obv?
-gwnn
#8
Posted 2011-July-07, 09:29
#9
Posted 2011-July-07, 15:01
Is this Desperate Housewifes ?
#10
Posted 2011-July-07, 17:19
#11
Posted 2011-July-08, 09:15
mgoetze, on 2011-July-07, 02:58, said:
billw55, on 2011-July-07, 06:58, said:
More questions came to mind than that, although the answers are none of my business ---but I like stuff that is none of my business.
I wondered about the dynamic of having two top-flight players, each with independent means, on the same team.
#12
Posted 2011-July-09, 07:37
aguahombre, on 2011-July-08, 09:15, said:
Bridge players always hate to have superb teammates that come back with a great scorecard.
#13
Posted 2011-July-09, 19:28
cherdano, on 2011-July-09, 07:37, said:
It is the "independent means" that aguaH is commenting on. If you are not necessarily dependant on Bridge to earn a living, then your attitude to the team sponsor and paymaster may be a little different. It has nothing to do with being superb teammates.
#14
Posted 2011-July-09, 20:35
the hog, on 2011-July-09, 19:28, said:
And this begs the question: If you are truly independently wealthy, why even bother with sponsors?
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#15
Posted 2011-July-09, 20:41
Phil, on 2011-July-09, 20:35, said:
#16
Posted 2011-July-09, 21:06
Phil, on 2011-July-09, 20:35, said:
Good players, empathetic teammates?
#17
Posted 2011-July-09, 21:35
Bbradley62, on 2011-July-09, 20:41, said:
I wasn't specifically referring to Nickell, or Diamond, though the example would apply to some, if not most of the players involved in past and recent editions of both teams. I just meant in general.
Take six well-off players that just want to crush. They hire a coach/captain, and maybe a trainer.
A team like this would dominate, much like the Blue Team did in the 60's.
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#18
Posted 2011-July-09, 22:21
Phil, on 2011-July-09, 20:35, said:
Sorry to go off-topic but this error is one of my pet peeves and it is hard to let it go by.
#19
Posted 2011-July-09, 23:47
Vampyr, on 2011-July-09, 22:21, said:
Not sure why this is a pet peeve.....
'the very very wealthy dont have a sponsor period........
those who could use 200 or 500k or a few million do,,,,,
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I think those worth billions rarely play bridge with a sponser for pay.
#20
Posted 2011-July-10, 01:31
Vampyr, on 2011-July-09, 22:21, said:
Continuing the off-topic, begging the question now means prompting the question (as well as the traditional meaning of assuming the answer in the argument). Prescriptive grammarians can cringe, but language evolves over time.