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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:36

Inquiry and I are on team Wyman.

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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:50

You can all go home, team Wyman is going to CRUSH all opposition.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:54

View Postkfay, on 2012-February-07, 16:50, said:

You can all go home, Team-o Wyman is going to CRUSH all opposition.

fyp: http://www.bridgebas...post__p__610123

Also, I like that the smack-talking has begun.

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kfay-jchiu
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inquiry-barmar
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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:55

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-07, 15:10, said:

Pretty sure the han-mikeh thing was a joke but maybe not? Any confirmation theyre really playing together?

Han told me that he wasn't playing. But that was 12 hours ago.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 17:49

View Postwyman, on 2012-February-07, 16:54, said:

Also, I like that the smack-talking has begun.


Can we upload smack talk via video a la "The League"?
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Posted 2012-February-07, 18:38

On the topic of VP scales - Assume that -

- Team A wins two matches by x IMPs each
- Team B wins one match by 2x IMPs and draws the other

Should Team A do better from these matches than Team B?

- If you think they should do equally well, then you may as well score the event by IMPs rather than VPs. You can still cap the IMP totals in some way.
- If you think Team A should do better than Team B, then you should use an appropriate VP scale. The WBF scale doesn't achieve this.

On the WBF 24 board scale -

- 15-15 is 7 imps wide
- 16-14 is 6 imps wide
- The next few are all 5 imps wide
- The last few increase in size again

This is roughly the equivalent of saying, "we will score the event by total IMPs, but the score from each match will be rounded to the nearest five". Bizarre IMO.

The EBU and ACBL both use scales that achieve my objective. The main difference between the two 20VP scales that they use is that, on the ACBL scale, you need more IMPs to obtain a maximum [72 as opposed to 51]. The EBU scale for 20-27 boards is good, but my favourite scale for a 24-28 board match is actually the ACBL 20 VP scale for 16-20 boards, which is a little flatter than the EBU one. 15-5 requires 19 IMPs, 20-0 requires 56 IMPs.

20VP and 25VP scales aren't intrinsically that different, normally you can just add/subtract 5VPs to get the equivalent result. The only difference is that 20-0 gets sub-divided into 25-5, 25-4, 25-3 etc. I believe this was traditionally expressed as 20-0, 20-minus 1, 20-minus 2, etc, before the 25 VP scale was devised. It would be easy to turn one of the suggested 20 VP scales into a 25 VP scale if this is preferred - simply remove a VP from the losing team for every further 10 IMPs they lose by.

Edit: Also, Team MickyB is going to, like, win the event. So there.

This post has been edited by MickyB: 2012-February-07, 19:40

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Posted 2012-February-07, 21:04

View Postwyman, on 2012-February-07, 16:54, said:

fyp: http://www.bridgebas...post__p__610123

Also, I like that the smack-talking has begun.

The new and improved team:
wyman-bunnygo
kfay-jchiu
jjbrr-gwnn
inquiry-barmar


This team looks good on paper, but your success will mainly depend on how many Raki Jason (Jchiu) consumed at the day of match. :P

Edit: Just for curiosity, will the barometer be on ? And open to kibs ?
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Posted 2012-February-07, 22:24

Im pretty sure I'm not on a team but I would say barometer should be off and kibs should be on. Barometer changes the game too much, don't get me wrong I love it for random fun matches on BBO since it makes it exciting, but it definitely changes how you play etc. Kibs should be on, usual argument if someone is going to cheat there are a million ways to do it, no reason to rob railbirds like myself the opportunity to see the hands ;)
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Posted 2012-February-07, 22:34

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-07, 22:24, said:

Im pretty sure I'm not on a team but I would say barometer should be off and kibs should be on. Barometer changes the game too much, don't get me wrong I love it for random fun matches on BBO since it makes it exciting, but it definitely changes how you play etc. Kibs should be on, usual argument if someone is going to cheat there are a million ways to do it, no reason to rob railbirds like myself the opportunity to see the hands ;)


Agree. However, I do think kibs should be silenced. Just to avoid comments from the peanut gallery getting misdirected and fouling a board.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 22:37

View PostMrAce, on 2012-February-07, 21:04, said:

This team looks good on paper, but your success will mainly depend on how many Raki Jason (Jchiu) consumed at the day of match. :P

Edit: Just for curiosity, will the barometer be on ? And open to kibs ?


Just out of curiosity, how many would be optimal?
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Posted 2012-February-07, 22:38

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-07, 22:24, said:

Im pretty sure I'm not on a team but I would say barometer should be off and kibs should be on. Barometer changes the game too much, don't get me wrong I love it for random fun matches on BBO since it makes it exciting, but it definitely changes how you play etc. Kibs should be on, usual argument if someone is going to cheat there are a million ways to do it, no reason to rob railbirds like myself the opportunity to see the hands ;)


agree 100%, also with awm that kibs should not be able to chat to table.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 23:01

Team 1 Mgoetze-jschafer
hrothgar-Jillybean
tomi2-400 Volt
Codo

Team 2 Csgibson (Chris)
Foobar/Akhare (Atul)
dwar0123 (Mike)
Diana_eva
fuburules3 (Shawn)
bd71 (Barry)

Team 3 benlessard-Zayats (benoitlessard@hotmail.com)
Shaztaz-Jllachan
ArtK78-guymath
Flameous-teemuhy

Team 4 wyman-bunnygo
kfay-jchiu
jjbrr-gwnn
inquiry-barmar

Team 5 MickyB
Sasioc
SLmplicity [for anyone setting matches, note the absurd spelling]
DanMac
PaulG
GipsonA
BCFC4Ever

Team 6
Hanoi5-Fluffy
Phil_20286+Wank

Free players should ask to join Csgibson or Hanoi5 teams.

Teams captains should start to ask their players when are they available. I expect to have definitive rules for this weekend. Hopefully my team will start sending challenge invitations to others teams next week.
What is the procedure to get a pinned thread (for match that are scheduled + for score and for teams that need ringers or substitute) also im planning to do a scoresheet with ascII caracter so that the score a post in the forum and not on a outside link, is there a better solution ?
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Posted 2012-February-07, 23:07

Justin, Awm what is your opinion for VP scale ? Its probably going to be 24 boards.
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Posted 2012-February-08, 01:54

View Postwyman, on 2012-February-07, 22:37, said:

Just out of curiosity, how many would be optimal?


Just tell him u will buy him a bottle of Raki if u guys win the event and he will play like a pitbull, i guarantee you that. Kevin is easy to motivate, a bottle of Budlight will do it. :lol:
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Posted 2012-February-08, 04:30

View PostMickyB, on 2012-February-07, 18:38, said:

Edit: Also, Team MickyB is going to, like, win the event. So there.


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Posted 2012-February-08, 08:11

Barometer on only for the first half IMO, it doesn't have much affect until the last few boards.
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Posted 2012-February-08, 10:34

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-February-07, 23:01, said:

What is the procedure to get a pinned thread (for match that are scheduled + for score and for teams that need ringers or substitute) also im planning to do a scoresheet with ascII caracter so that the score a post in the forum and not on a outside link, is there a better solution ?

Inquiry or I can pin the thread.

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Posted 2012-February-09, 05:29

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-February-07, 23:01, said:

Team 1 Mgoetze-jschafer
hrothgar-Jillybean
tomi2-400 Volt
Codo

Team 2 Csgibson (Chris)
Foobar/Akhare (Atul)
dwar0123 (Mike)
Diana_eva
fuburules3 (Shawn)
bd71 (Barry)

Team 3 benlessard-Zayats (benoitlessard@hotmail.com)
Shaztaz-Jllachan
ArtK78-guymath
Flameous-teemuhy

Team 4 wyman-bunnygo
kfay-jchiu
jjbrr-gwnn
inquiry-barmar

Team 5 MickyB
Sasioc
SLmplicity [for anyone setting matches, note the absurd spelling]
DanMac
PaulG
GipsonA
BCFC4Ever

Team 6
Hanoi5-Fluffy
Phil_20286+Wank

Free players should ask to join Csgibson or Hanoi5 teams.

Teams captains should start to ask their players when are they available. I expect to have definitive rules for this weekend. Hopefully my team will start sending challenge invitations to others teams next week.
What is the procedure to get a pinned thread (for match that are scheduled + for score and for teams that need ringers or substitute) also im planning to do a scoresheet with ascII caracter so that the score a post in the forum and not on a outside link, is there a better solution ?


Valardent + p have joined the Hanoi5 team
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Posted 2012-February-09, 10:10

Team 2 is fullish at:
CSGibson
Fuburules3
Foobar/Akhare
Dwar0123
Bd71
Diana_eva
JMCW
SSDDM
Chris Gibson
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Posted 2012-February-09, 10:14

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-07, 22:24, said:

Im pretty sure I'm not on a team


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