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Another BWS problem Did I misunderstand the rule?

#1 User is offline   frank0 

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Posted 2011-June-23, 21:59

First I put the rule here
Bypass rule: If a player bypasses a natural notrump bid to make a nonforcing bid, then later bids notrump uninvited over an opposing bid, that notrump bid is unusual (showing additional distribution, not offering to play in notrump).

Yesterday I was playing on BBO and my partner bid 2 then later compete with 3NT, so I follow the rule and conclude that because he bypassed 1NT so 3NT must be unusual showing a distribution hand with and . But actually my partner had A54 2 A65 AKQ873, he just wanted to make 3NT with a little help with my hand.

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1.How do you generally treat this 3NT as?
2.Can anyone explain a little bit more(maybe with example) about bypass rule? I don't quite understand.
3. How would you bid my partner's hand?
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Posted 2011-June-23, 22:06

1. I would take 3NT as sort of what your partner had.
2. A NT bid is unusual if you have both bypassed the opportunity to bid it naturally, AND you are unable to show your hand naturally:
eg: 1D-(1S)-P-(2S)
P -(P) -2NT would be both minors (typically 5-3 or something since partner opened a minor)

In your auction, overcaller could have just bid 3H to show a lot of round-suit cards, so no need for an unusual NT.

3. I think the hand posted is worth a double+club bid, but don't think his actual bidding was bad.
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Posted 2011-June-30, 05:27

For one or other reason, I cannot read your diagram, it is too small in my browser. Why could that be ? Apparentlly, others were able to read it... Can anybody help me ?


But to answer your question: what does it mean "bypassing NT" ?
The BWS Bypass rule is a generalisation of the 1NT bypass rule.
The following was written by
Mr John Montgomery, in his 4th Edition of RCS.

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ONE NOTRUMP BYPASS RULE This rule, invented by Jeff Rubens, holds that anytime you bid 2NT in a defensive auction where you could have bid 1NT earlier and chose not to do so, you are showing some kind of two-suited hand, not a natural 2NT bid. An example is (1H)-X, (P)-2C, (2H)-P, (P)-2NT. You could have bid 1NT (or 2NT) the first time, but chose to bid 2C instead. Do you really want to play 2NT now? No, says Jeff, you are showing a desire to get to three of a suit, and a second suit to go with the one you have bid, which can only be diamonds here. He says he has never seen a hand where this rule didn't apply. I haven't thought of one either, so let's play the rule. But note that it doesn't apply to auctions where the first bid by the eventual 2NT bidder showed a good hand. Here, the 2C bid showed no values and could have been passed.

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Jeff Rubens (ACBL Hall of Fame) is a Bridge World Editor: so, no surprise this important principle found it's way into BWS2001. He is also a "promoter" of Hand Evalution by Visualisation.


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