vg|Final MK Netherlands Onstein 2 - Onstein 3,2_3,I,17,32,Onstein 2,44,Onstein 3,10| rs|4HW=,4SN-1,4SE+1,4SW=,4SWx=,3DS=,1NE-1,1NE=,4SW=,4SW=,2SS=,3HW-2,6CSx=,5CS+1,3HS+1,3NS=,4HS=,5HN-1,3CW-2,3CW-2,4SS+1,4SS+1,3CN=,3CN-1,3NN+2,3NN+2,1NE+1,1NE+1,2SE-1,2SE-1,3SS+2,4CE-1| pn|Molenaar,Sprinkhuiz,TVerbeek,Guy Mendes,Tijssen,vLankveld,Kiljan,vdBos|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAJTH4DAQ9763CK75,SQHAKQJT983DKTCT2,SK7653H72DJ542C98,S9842H65D8CAQJ643|sv|o|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAJTH4DAQ9763CK75,SQHAKQJT983DKTCT2,SK7653H72DJ542C98,S9842H65D8CAQJ643|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJT84H865DK82CQT5,SQ652HA4DA73CK962,S3HK732DQT9CJ8743,SAK97HQJT9DJ654CA|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzev: https://www.bridge.nl/nieuws/meesterklasse-viertallen-ontknoping/|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: for info and cc|pg|| mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJT84H865DK82CQT5,SQ652HA4DA73CK962,S3HK732DQT9CJ8743,SAK97HQJT9DJ654CA|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAKH9742DQ765CKJ5,SQ6532H5D84CQT863,SJ4HJ3DKJT32CA942,ST987HAKQT86DA9C7|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|r|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h7|nt|Cantorm: Hi folks and thanks to Aurora for fixing the peoblem of getting me access to commentate|pg|| nt|Cantorm: If he goes up Q he will make|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: Welcome!|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|Cantorm: Might have been better for Molenaar to take the @SA rather than K|pg|| mc|10|nt|Cantorm: then declarer had the (losing) option of ruffing small, playing S for @SAJ tight|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Hi Yvonne|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAKH9742DQ765CKJ5,SQ6532H5D84CQT863,SJ4HJ3DKJT32CA942,ST987HAKQT86DA9C7|sv|e|mb|1N!|an|10-13|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|2N!|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2ST96HAJT3DAJ9CQT8,SAKJ5H72DT32C7654,S432HQ65DQ874CK92,SQ87HK984DK65CAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|Cantorm: 5@d would have been a good save at 2 off|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|Cantorm: S is likely to get endplayed at some point here|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Cantorm: for the 7th trick|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but then dec will be aqueezing himself when he cashes dummy's black suit winners|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but also squeezing the opps|pg|| nt|Cantorm: that has tightened the score up considerably|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: covering the @h may have worked better|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2ST96HAJT3DAJ9CQT8,SAKJ5H72DT32C7654,S432HQ65DQ874CK92,SQ87HK984DK65CAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dQ|pc|h8|mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3ST73H2DKJT3CKJ732,SAJ62HJ8DQ9842CQT,S5HQT75DA75CA9854,SKQ984HAK9643D6C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: as long as he is a little careful should make 4@s |pg|| mb|4H!|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: needs to play small @h to J (or run the J works too)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: true, 5@c NS makes if find @DQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|Cantorm: but I don't see any sensible way for NS to get involved in the auctionn|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sT|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3ST73H2DKJT3CKJ732,SAJ62HJ8DQ9842CQT,S5HQT75DA75CA9854,SKQ984HAK9643D6C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAJ8HJ84DAJ4CK873,S53HQ96DKQ932CQ54,ST9764HKTD65CAT62,SKQ2HA7532DT87CJ9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S!|an|3|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: N's 1@H transfer response shows 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|nt|Cantorm: brb|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAJ8HJ84DAJ4CK873,S53HQ96DKQ932CQ54,ST9764HKTD65CAT62,SKQ2HA7532DT87CJ9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|1H!|an|5+!S|mb|d|mb|r|an|3!S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SHA975DAKQCAQJT72,SK32HK8632DJ43CK8,SAT4HJDT9876C9653,SQJ98765HQT4D52C4|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Cantorm: can NS get to 6@c after this start?|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|mb|4N!|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: funnily enough, NS have 7 tricks in a spade contract (if @s not led)|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I like that 4N bid by Verbeek|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: limited his hand in the first round, so can now show a max for his pass|pg|| nt|Cantorm: if this is passed out it counts as a stripe-tailed ape double|pg|| mb|5S|nt|Cantorm: Dbl now for 1400 on @HA lead|pg|| nt|Cantorm: or bid the slam for 1370|pg|| nt|warrens: Was Mendes's X of 4NT a psych of some sort of was he suggesting something?|pg|| nt|warrens: hello Martin|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Hi Warren|pg|| mb|6C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: oh wow|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: well, looks like Molenaar figured it out. well done.|pg|| nt|Cantorm: there is a recent thread on Bridge Winners about doubling a part score, opps run, you bid it again a level higher and they double again and you go one off|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Cantorm: this is that in reverse|pg|| nt|Cantorm: he is just figuring out the play if @c 3-0 offside|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and a nasty @d break perhaps|pg|| pc|c3|nt|warrens: agreed. I think he can cash the A of @C's and start ruffing @H's if that's the case|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Cantorm: agree|pg|| mc|12|nt|Cantorm: easy now - can claim|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SHA975DAKQCAQJT72,SK32HK8632DJ43CK8,SAT4HJDT9876C9653,SQJ98765HQT4D52C4|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|2N!|mb|3S|mb|4S!|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S4H765DA95CKQ8743,SKQ9H42DKT842CAJ5,SAJT32HAKJTDQ763C,S8765HQ983DJCT962|sv|o|nt|Cantorm: if 5@SX at other table then an unusual way to gain 4 imps|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|Cantorm: S will pass if E does|pg|| mb|p|nt|Cantorm: maybe|pg|| nt|Cantorm: maybe 2@h tho|pg|| nt|warrens: he would definitely pass if a little weaker. |pg|| mb|2H|nt|Cantorm: but I would be minded to pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: may depend whether 2@c is limited - against weak NT usually dbl with 15+|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|nt|Cantorm: I bet he was wishing he had passed when he saw 3@d|pg|| nt|Cantorm: perhaps less so when he saw dummy|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: how to play this? ruffing @s looks good, but you want to set a @c trick up too|pg|| nt|warrens: I think he'll win the A of @H, ruff a @S and take the ruffing finesse in @C. if so, I think he can bring this home.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|hT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Cantorm: not sure why Q not K - you want him to cover, so K usually best|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|warrens: west having KQx in @S and 2 @H's is a bonus. he can score a long @S|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S4H765DA95CKQ8743,SKQ9H42DKT842CAJ5,SAJT32HAKJTDQ763C,S8765HQ983DJCT962|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SK7542HKQ986DQ9CT,SQJTHJT75DAT65C62,SAHA432DKJ3CKQJ75,S9863HD8742CA9843|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SK7542HKQ986DQ9CT,SQJTHJT75DAT65C62,SAHA432DKJ3CKQJ75,S9863HD8742CA9843|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzbn: Kiljan is thinking real hard, with this @H-position the 5-level will be impossible|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SKQT64H952DAK2C86,SJ98HAJD943CAQT74,SA73HT76DJT65CK32,S52HKQ843DQ87CJ95|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|warrens: defense has 6 quick tricks|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|warrens: as long as they cash them before declarer gets any discards|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I have to leave you now - am playing a (friendly) match in 40 minutes and the dog needs a walk before that|pg|| nt|Cantorm: whether he wants one or not|pg|| nt|warrens: thanks, Martin.|pg|| nt|Cantorm: enjoy the rest and good luck to both teams|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: thx for the moment :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|nt|warrens: 10 of @D from N showing a @S honor|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: dbl on the table :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: by Tim|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SKQT64H952DAK2C86,SJ98HAJD943CAQT74,SA73HT76DJT65CK32,S52HKQ843DQ87CJ95|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAKQ98765HJD5CAK6,SJ3HAK762DQCQT983,S4HQT985DA932C542,ST2H43DKJT8764CJ7|sv|o|nt|warrens: I thought N might duck the first club, win the second and exit a club, potentially for -3|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: North has a penalty pass if S reopens with a X, but S is going to show his one-suiter|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s4|nt|warrens: a coffee hand. a good hand to go get a cup of coffee. the only question is whether he can squeeze west for 2 overtricks. a @D now stops the squeeze.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|warrens: and East will discard his second @H at some point to clarify|pg|| mc|11|nt|Vugraphzev: bathroom break|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAKQ98765HJD5CAK6,SJ3HAK762DQCQT983,S4HQT985DA932C542,ST2H43DKJT8764CJ7|sv|o|mb|2C!|an|Strong|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJT92H5DQT865CJ74,SK3HT76D9432CT985,S84HKQ942DKCAKQ32,SAQ765HAJ83DAJ7C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|warrens: if N bids 2@C, will East X or just pass?|pg|| nt|warrens: it would be easy with 4@D and 5@S, but I think he should here anyway|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: www.bridge.nl/nieuws/meesterklasse-viertallen-ontknoping/|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|warrens: :)|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzev: info and CC|pg|| pc|c6|nt|warrens: trump is a good lead. I think East will need to underlead in @S so his partner can play a second trump.|pg|| nt|warrens: if West signals with the 10 of @C's under the J, he'll know|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|warrens: :)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|warrens: oops|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJT92H5DQT865CJ74,SK3HT76D9432CT985,S84HKQ942DKCAKQ32,SAQ765HAJ83DAJ7C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|s7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|warrens: can't make it, but ruffing a @H, playing the J of @S and overruffing gets you to -1|pg|| nt|warrens: Q of @H's and then trying to ruff a @H gets -2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SA8HQ96DAKT963CT3,S752H873D7CAJ8542,SQJ9HAKDQJ8542CQ9,SKT643HJT542DCK76|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2C!|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c5|nt|warrens: Very reasonable auction, though 5@D was the better contract|pg|| mc|11|nt|warrens: not that I would expect East to ever lead a @C|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SA8HQ96DAKT963CT3,S752H873D7CAJ8542,SQJ9HAKDQJ8542CQ9,SKT643HJT542DCK76|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|warrens: West's X is asking East to bid his longer major|pg|| mb|3C|an|!D|nt|warrens: at the other table, S jumped to 3NT, which seems very reasonable, but can be beaten by a clairvoyant @C lead|pg|| mb|d|nt|warrens: this auction might lead to 5@D, which is the better contract|pg|| nt|warrens: West|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: oh, now the X might be showing just @C's, not sure. a X of 3@D would clearly be asking for partner to compete in his longer major|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbn: they aren't sure at the table, if I heard correctly....|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|warrens: if the X of 3@C showed @C's, then bidding 3NT seems very unwise.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SK7HQ7D7543CAT874,SQT96H862DJT86CQ9,SJ842HA543DKQ2C63,SA53HKJT9DA9CKJ52|sv|o|nt|warrens: certainly not with Kxx, maybe if he was 5404|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: they are kidding, why nog club lead? you bid them!|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|warrens: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|nt|warrens: I think he'll try @H's now|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|nt|warrens: get at least 2 tricks there|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|nt|warrens: with the KQ of @D both onside, nothing the defense can do|pg|| pc|h5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|warrens: with the @D honors were split, a low @D through declarer's Ax could set up 2 tricks for the defense|pg|| nt|warrens: if*|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SK7HQ7D7543CAT874,SQT96H862DJT86CQ9,SJ842HA543DKQ2C63,SA53HKJT9DA9CKJ52|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzbn: Indeed X was start a club, but not according to vd Bos|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SKT82H753DAQ32C63,SHAJ64DKT984CAQT9,SAQJHQ82D65CKJ742,S976543HKT9DJ7C85|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|warrens: he had 3 @C's, 2@H and 2 Aces, so that was for the overtrick|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|nt|warrens: West is going to hate this bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|warrens: he's off 5 top tricks. a @C lead would end it, but on a @H lead he has some remote chances|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|nt|warrens: endplayed in dummy now|pg|| nt|warrens: I think North needs to ruff or pitch a @D|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c5|nt|warrens: East will clearly pitch a @C|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| nt|warrens: defense slipped here|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|sA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|warrens: wait, declarer needed to play a trump. now a @D ruff beats him|pg|| mc|7|nt|Vugraphzev: Guy > sorry!|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SKT82H753DAQ32C63,SHAJ64DKT984CAQT9,SAQJHQ82D65CKJ742,S976543HKT9DJ7C85|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|warrens: West is going to hate this|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: same start at the other table. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|warrens: the defense has 5 top tricks. a @C lead beats it easily, otherwise declarer might have some remote chance|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbn: quickly started...|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|warrens: if the defense can manage a @S ruff with a high trump, can beat this 2|pg|| nt|warrens: declarer needs to get trumps going now|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|d9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s5|nt|warrens: North's best play was the Q of @H's on the low @H off dummy, limiting declarer's entries.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|warrens: now -1|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|warrens: as long as he plays a @H to hand|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|dT|pc|sA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SA987642H754DA72C,STHK9863D983CQJT2,SQ5HA2DKJ654C9843,SKJ3HQJTDQTCAK765|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|d|nt|warrens: N/S can make a lot of @S here|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|warrens: I think he'll ruff a @H and then play the Q of @S for only one @S loser|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|warrens: if East had played Q of @H, then 10, West could have overtaken, knowing his partner had the J. This was, not clear. but it doesn't matter.|pg|| pc|s3|nt|warrens: better to play trump from West's side|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzev: 15.45 will start next round, 45 min break nog :)|pg|| nt|warrens: thanks all, thanks Yvonne|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: other table still 4 boards|pg|| nt|Vugraphzev: thx Warren!|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SA987642H754DA72C,STHK9863D983CQJT2,SQ5HA2DKJ654C9843,SKJ3HQJTDQTCAK765|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|an|10-13|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|warrens: this makes a lot of @S|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|warrens: West passed at the other table, but a takeout X does seem reasonable|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|an|doubt|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: ok, they got to a safe place|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: 3NT would go down at least 3|pg|| pc|h4|nt|warrens: this should be a simple -1 unless the defense errs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|warrens: ok, even with another @D declarer doesn't have enough pitches, so -1|pg|| nt|warrens: seems unlikely that declarer would have gone up Q with Q10x|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbn: but he did|pg|| nt|warrens: no, he only had Q10, not Q10x|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| mc|9|nt|warrens: thanks all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbn: back in 15 minutes I believe...|pg|| pg||