vg|BBO1-2022WTC-BB,FN2,I,17,32,SWITZERLAND,40,NETHERLANDS,36| rs|3NE+1,3NE+1,3SW-2,3SW-2,5DE+1,6DE=,2HS+3,2HN+2,4SWx-6,6DN=,4SSx-3,5DW-1,4SE+2,4SE+2,6CS-2,5CS-1,3NS+1,3NS+1,3NW=,2HN-1,4SS=,4SS=,1NN-2,1NN-2,5DS-1,3NS-2,3DN-1,3SW-1,3NS-2,3NS-1,1NW+1,1NW-1| pn|PIEDRA,DE WIJS,ZIMMERMANN,MULLER,L VERHEES,KLUKOWSKI,VAN PROOIJ,GAWRYS|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SK72HJ864DJT6CT76,ST84HT53DA83CAKQ5,SQJ96H72DKQ42CJ93,SA53HAKQ9D975C842|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|nt|mikam1: back now for the 2nd set|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: EW have very similar hands albeit in different suits|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 3N will make when clubs split|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: needed one of the round suits to come in|pg|| pc|h4|nt|mikam1: and this will give the overtrick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SK72HJ864DJT6CT76,ST84HT53DA83CAKQ5,SQJ96H72DKQ42CJ93,SA53HAKQ9D975C842|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Barnets: Hi all welcome back to this exciting final match|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: EW play a version of Polish Club // both dutch pairs play a version of tarzan precision|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|fabsayc: voice commentary on https://www.twitch.tv/v8mama|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@C = forcing, multi-purpose|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Barnets: not a board for a rite up as David Bird would say|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S853HK65DAKJ53C54,SAKJT74H4D86CQT83,SQ62HA83D97CAJ762,S9HQJT972DQT42CK9|sv|n|nt|mikam1: like a warmup board, that first one|pg|| mb|3H|nt|algraves: NS 22 HCP no fit|pg|| nt|mikam1: this might very well buy the contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: nope|pg|| nt|ahollan1: gawrys opened mini-multi 2@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: I guess they open preempts liberally so play such bids as 3S non-forcing|pg|| nt|mikam1: to run from their partner!|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|Jurica_: On site news: Small penalty adjustment in this match after the session has already started. Unfortunately, we cannot change the BBO carry over during the broadcast - official score is on the WBF website. Thank you|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|mikam1: more penalties|pg|| pc|s5|nt|mikam1: must be slow play again|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|nt|mikam1: live scores of all finals here: http://db.worldbridge.org/Repository/tourn/salsomaggiore.22/microSite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=2204&qphase=FF&qtournid2=2205&qtournid3=2206&qtournid4=2207|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mikam1: down a couple here looks likely|pg|| nt|mikam1: Piedra knows so little about the hand |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|mikam1: thus he has little idea what to play|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|algraves: if north had say weaker clubs|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|algraves: and a promotiable trump then this is best defence|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c3|nt|mikam1: good defense even if it was not relevant|pg|| nt|mikam1: and it will be a push with the same result in the other room|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|dA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S853HK65DAKJ53C54,SAKJT74H4D86CQT83,SQ62HA83D97CAJ762,S9HQJT972DQT42CK9|sv|n|nt|ahollan2: 2@S = BAL, FG, not 4@H/@S some other restrictions|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@D = weak 2@H/@S no strong options|pg|| mb|3S|nt|Barnets: hi KIt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: I guess this isn't pass or correct :)|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kit: He apparently had the choice of playing in 2@H or 3@S.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: de wijs also bid 3@S but over opening 3@H|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Jurica_: On site news: Small penalty adjustment in this match after the session has already started. Unfortunately, we cannot change the BBO carry over during the broadcast - official score is on the WBF website. Thank you|pg|| pc|s5|nt|Barnets: THE poles did a lot of work refining responses to the Multi which was invented by Reese and Flint in 1970 and going strong more than 50 years later|pg|| nt|kit: Logical shift to stop club ruff in case declarer has ace of clubs|pg|| nt|ahollan2: seems to me that EW CC had 3@S as the normal pass/correct|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|Barnets: maybe a typo|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Barnets: same contract in other room|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|kit: Reason for club shift apparently was that North was afraid declarer had stiff king of hearts. Not so sure that was realistic.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|ahollan2: ah new CC does not even mention 2@D-3@S but 2@D-3@C = FG 5+@H/@S so maybe nat INV|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan2: is new agreement|pg|| mc|7|nt|Barnets: 3@H- 3@S pass|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAKJ93HQT983D96C4,S7HA5DAKT85CQ8752,SQT5HK7642D3CK963,S8642HJDQJ742CAJT|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|2N|nt|mikam1: now double fits both ways|pg|| nt|mikam1: EW can make 6 on a club finesse|pg|| nt|mikam1: and East will bid alot here|pg|| nt|algraves: 4H can be beaten with a ruff|pg|| nt|mikam1: sure, but no way that east hand is selling to 4H|pg|| nt|mikam1: and maybe not selling to any number of hearts|pg|| nt|algraves: 6D on a finesse|pg|| nt|mikam1: the more he bids, the happier he will be in the end|pg|| nt|mikam1: yup|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 19 systemic opening for verhees is 1@H and van prooijen jumped to 4@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: currently 5@HX but gawrys in east is thinking|pg|| mb|4S|nt|mikam1: right - big decision|pg|| nt|ahollan1: re-awakens with 5@C|pg|| nt|algraves: so 6H save is -500|pg|| nt|mikam1: this will make East's hand look even better|pg|| mb|5D|nt|mikam1: with his xxxx in spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|mikam1: he might have gone on to 6 had NS bid anymore|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mikam1: perhaps he was even playing possum so to speak|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|mikam1: if partner holds a spade void (which seemed quite possible on the auction) 6 is not unlikely to make|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mikam1: opposite a vulnerable unusual NT|pg|| nt|algraves: 620 better than defending|pg|| nt|mikam1: for sure|pg|| nt|mikam1: did the auction end in the closed room?|pg|| nt|mikam1: or other room I should say?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nope klukowski now in the tank|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| nt|mikam1: I see|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|algraves: and you dont want to be pre empted into a minus|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAKJ93HQT983D96C4,S7HA5DAKT85CQ8752,SQT5HK7642D3CK963,S8642HJDQJ742CAJT|sv|e|nt|Barnets: unusual but there you are|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2N|mb|4H|nt|ahollan2: 1@H = 11-15, 5+@H 1st / 2nd seat can be equal or LONGER @S|pg|| mb|5D|nt|ahollan2: 4@H = wide range opposite limited opener|pg|| nt|kit: Good hand to be able to open 1@H when partner has that|pg|| nt|kit: 5@H is a good save, but will it push them to slam which makes?|pg|| nt|Barnets: Slam EW is afinesse into opening bidder so not great|pg|| mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: I can't imagine anybody is going to bid more, but you never know|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|ADONIS18: maybe w double indicated 1 control i hearts|pg|| nt|kit: Wow -- but will West know to to correct to 6@D?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: other room starts 1@S-2N-4@S-5@D|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 5@D final contract in other room|pg|| nt|Barnets: over 4@H 4N could have been a slamtry in a minor so perhpaps East feels he has extras now|pg|| nt|kit: Seems like West's ace of hearts could just as easily have been the king, but hard to argue with success|pg|| nt|Barnets: 6@C is likely lead directional in case they play 6@H|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|Barnets: evn tho not favorite worth a gamble with only 100 coming from 5@HX|pg|| nt|kit: West may have been thinking 6@C was offer to play, and that clubs might be better if missing ace of clubs as it could go ace of clubs and club ruff in 6@D|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| mc|12|nt|Barnets: north was not saving with his @C k a likely trick|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAJ32HQD965CAQJT9,ST864HK95DAT3C642,SQ97HAJ8764DQ7C85,SK5HT32DKJ842CK73|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: auction over gawrys in 6@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|algraves: very lucky lie of cards for NS|pg|| nt|algraves: 10 tricks in hearts|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: yes, so that will be a swing for Switzerland|pg|| pc|c2|nt|mikam1: often on these kinds of hands better to keep bidding|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|mikam1: but I don't know if NS knew about the spade fit if the auction started hearts and a jump to game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 13 imps to switzerland|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D weak 2 in a major|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H pass/correct|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mikam1: cards were extremely favorable for NS here so game was in the offing|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|d7|pc|c7|pg|| nt|mikam1: not that they should bid it, but it would have worked (4H that is)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|algraves: no one was bidding game|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|mikam1: right|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: 20 other room auction P-2@H-P-P-P holler if you need explanations|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|mikam1: haha|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAJ32HQD965CAQJT9,ST864HK95DAT3C642,SQ97HAJ8764DQ7C85,SK5HT32DKJ842CK73|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: other table 2@H south after mini-multi 2@D|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|Barnets: cards lie very well here for dec|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SKQH7DAKJ43CAK874,SJT87632H2DQCT652,SA954HAKQ84D876CJ,SHJT9653DT952CQ93|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: great shuffler having a lot of laughs today|pg|| nt|mikam1: so this will be Piedra-Zimmerman's 2nd set - I think that will fulfill their requirement for play I think|pg|| nt|mikam1: yes right Al|pg|| mb|2D|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|mikam1: NS might make slam in diamonds - but possibly not with these breaks|pg|| nt|mikam1: that's some 4S bid by Muller|pg|| nt|mikam1: not exactly gunshy about preempting|pg|| nt|Thorvald: Take the money and run?|pg|| nt|algraves: 6NT has 12 trick but they are blocked on some defences |pg|| nt|mikam1: hard to take it when you fear missing a grand|pg|| nt|mikam1: but maybe Piedra wants to get his 2000 back from the last set|pg|| nt|mikam1: the Dutch seem to have a belief in big preempts when the colors are right for them|pg|| nt|mikam1: I think I might pass anyway with south - no sure fit and partner suggested defending|pg|| nt|algraves: this is 5 down off the top |pg|| nt|mikam1: maybe more on the bottom|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so does east muller a bit more subdued|pg|| nt|algraves: yes, that is just off the top|pg|| nt|algraves: yes the gallery is betting 6 down off the top|pg|| nt|algraves: anyone for 7 ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: I really do think south might pass - he doesn't even know where he's headed and partner doesn't have a big diamond fit|pg|| nt|mikam1: and so he does|pg|| nt|mikam1: now we'll see if they can get max on defense|pg|| nt|mikam1: might not be so easy|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|algraves: I once had my favourite partner spead his hand and say take as many as you want. I think that is not allowed though . |pg|| nt|mikam1: I suspect if they get club ruffs going, down 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 21 closed room in 6@D north|pg|| nt|mikam1: I'm told that EW seats might be switched|pg|| nt|mikam1: so this might be De Wijs who bid 4S|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's right muller usually sits east - didn't even notice|pg|| nt|mikam1: playing 6D in the other room|pg|| nt|algraves: so the play for NS is try and get a cross ruff going|pg|| nt|mikam1: which (I think will make)|pg|| nt|mikam1: so necessary to attain down 6 here to keep from losing imps|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 5 boards 2 slam swngs|pg|| nt|mikam1: well give the kibitzers what they want Al|pg|| nt|mikam1: and the commentators|pg|| nt|mikam1: and they did make 6D |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: of course we don't know final score for 21 at this table|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|mikam1: if down 6, then an imp to Switzerland|pg|| nt|mikam1: Piedra will be ticked off though - he wanted 2000 back|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: if that happens purely out of spite because of my premature statement|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|sQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|4|nt|mikam1: lucky west had all those great spots|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SKQH7DAKJ43CAK874,SJT87632H2DQCT652,SA954HAKQ84D876CJ,SHJT9653DT952CQ93|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|3S|nt|ahollan2: 1@H again 11-15 5+@H maybe equal or longer @S in 1st/2nd seat|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = FG Relay|pg|| nt|kit: Look very carefully at the diamond spots here|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: The 5 of diamonds may defeat a grand slam.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: van proojen PASS = 2+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: sorry i had to check my notes|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Barnets: a heart lead would make 6N awkward|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: tag - you're it|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|Barnets: great bidding to top spot so far|pg|| nt|kit: Astutely playing it from the same side if South passes|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 21 other room 4@SX west|pg|| nt|Barnets: south needs not to bid 7|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Barnets: they have done so well here I think|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Barnets: 6N may have had some jeopardy on a heart lead|pg|| nt|vugraphc1: http://db.worldbridge.org/Repository/tourn/salsomaggiore.22/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kit: that play wasn't obvious to me, but it sure was right.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|c8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|dT|pg|| nt|serhat: he didnt need to play the second @D but all good|pg|| pc|d4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQT872HAQ4DKT7CQ7,SJ5H85DQJ963CJ653,S9643HT93D4CT9842,SAKHKJ762DA852CAK|sv|e|nt|mikam1: otherwise he wouldn't have bid it of course|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if your long term memory better than short term non-vul doubled undertricks now 1-3-5-8-11-15 rather than 1-3-5-7-9|pg|| nt|mikam1: and now back to real life|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+ unal or 18+BAL|pg|| nt|algraves: I think they could have gotten one more with club switch at trick two|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oops fat finger 15 should be 14|pg|| nt|mikam1: so Switzerland by 19 at this point|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|mikam1: I might point out that a team can score 19 imps on one board|pg|| nt|mikam1: but I've (rarely) seen it happen|pg|| nt|mikam1: not in a super long time|pg|| nt|mikam1: maybe 10 minutes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 0-5 tarzan precision flips strength of PASS/DBL from how other big clubbers play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i.e. pass is STRONGER than DBL|pg|| nt|mikam1: EW arrived at a reasonable 5D at the other table, but with hearts off, didn't fetch|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in tarzan precision|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|nt|algraves: 4S down 2 most likely|pg|| nt|mikam1: a bit of an overpreempt by north|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: there has been a lot of that going around|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: now up to west (I think De Wijs) whether to quit here |pg|| nt|mikam1: he did - and that will be a swing for the Dutch|pg|| pc|h8|nt|mikam1: I don't mean to pick on preempting, but sometimes it can be overdone|pg|| nt|mikam1: yes, north "suspects" the opponents can make a lot|pg|| nt|mikam1: but 3S for example, takes up pretty good space|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i firmly believe it is right to preempt ... except when i firmly believe it is wrong|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and they say there are no absolutes in bridge|pg|| nt|algraves: A thoughtful Kibitzer reminds as that 3NT is a lucky make with their 27 HCP|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|mikam1: yes, with the club queen dropping|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|mikam1: this will go down 3 likely - so not a great save anyway - and poor when your teammates don't make game|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|mikam1: perhaps declarer could have done better if he played trumps first|pg|| mc|7|nt|mikam1: but perhaps worried about them not being 2-2|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQT872HAQ4DKT7CQ7,SJ5H85DQJ963CJ653,S9643HT93D4CT9842,SAKHKJ762DA852CAK|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Barnets: Zimmerman hopes to get his 2000 back from the last se but wont quite make it|pg|| mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Barnets: 1100 or 1400 likely|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C forcing multi-purpose|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: East properly read the double as a more flexible hand, so rightly judged a minor-suit contract was better.|pg|| mb|p|pc|s9|nt|Barnets: going down 6 for 1400|pg|| pc|sK|nt|serhat: 3NT was only game..|pg|| pc|s7|nt|Barnets: 1 imp to switzerland|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S84HT9754D2CAQT86,SKJ95H62DAKQ96C32,S72HK8DJT543CKJ75,SAQT63HAQJ3D87C94|sv|b|nt|mikam1: 12 imps to the Dutch|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+|nt|mikam1: I'm told the Dutch players are switched here - De Wijs in west, Muller in east|pg|| nt|mikam1: they do that for a very good reason|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15 2+@D|pg|| nt|algraves: in the other room same auction they pre empted to 3S and EW bid to 5D|pg|| nt|mikam1: so they can blame everything on partner in the post-mortem|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: so the swing was won by the lesser preempt|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|algraves: lol|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 4-fit medium hand BAL or short @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: and now a breather|pg|| pc|d2|nt|algraves: normal lead for a push|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S84HT9754D2CAQT86,SKJ95H62DAKQ96C32,S72HK8DJT543CKJ75,SAQT63HAQJ3D87C94|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 4+@D can be 4@D 5@C|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan2: 1@S not 4+@H unless FG|pg|| mb|3S|nt|Barnets: on 22 Zimerman jumped to 4@s over 1@s was x and plays there|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SK32H3DACAKJT9873,SAQHK95DJT8732C54,S9754HQ72DKQ5CQ62,SJT86HAJT864D964C|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: between vanderbilt and this tournament i have run out of fingers and toes counting occurences of 8 & 9 card suits|pg|| mb|3H|nt|mikam1: now NS may get to 5C where the defense nees to take it's tricks on the go|pg|| nt|ahollan1: gawrys 3rd seat choice was 2@D = mini-multi|pg|| nt|mikam1: south might just bid it here|pg|| mb|d|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: ahh and now east = simon de wijs|pg|| nt|mikam1: no - guess he worried about missing 3N |pg|| nt|algraves: 5C on a( losing ) spade finesse or mis defence|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: Sorry E/W are always inverted. Sometimes I forget to change |pg|| nt|ahollan1: did names switch back??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh must be controlled by the bridgemate entry|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: Muller sit in Est|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: aggressive double by north and now 6C|pg|| mb|p|nt|algraves: 6C is a little high |pg|| pc|h5|nt|mikam1: East would have found the defense to beat 5C anyway|pg|| nt|mikam1: surely|pg|| nt|mikam1: so no tragedy|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|algraves: diamond ace is not going anywhere but the spade A might|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|algraves: regardless he has only 11 tricks|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|mikam1: yes true Alan|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|nt|algraves: i mean he might have had 9 clubs|pg|| nt|mikam1: a mere two imp swing|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SK32H3DACAKJT9873,SAQHK95DJT8732C54,S9754HQ72DKQ5CQ62,SJT86HAJT864D964C|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan2: what's your poison with east hand?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@D = weak 2@H or weak 2@S |pg|| mb|d|nt|Barnets: a heart lead will beat 5@C if they bid it|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan2: 22 piedra 4@SX -500 [zimmermann gets the charge]|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: this is more like it - 1st set did not have any 8-baggers|pg|| nt|Barnets: for the raise to be right South needs @DA and @SAx or something like that unless he has a void heart|pg|| nt|Barnets: north is imagining all the hands south could have|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|Barnets: Zia told me he imagines 5 hands partner could have and then goes with the flow|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h5|mc|10|nt|ahollan2: 24 in other room the 3rd seat opener was 3@H|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SA6HAK97DT953CJT8,ST853HQ63DA74CK53,SKQJ92H4DJ62CAQ92,S74HJT852DKQ8C764|sv|e|nt|mikam1: and now a likely simple 3N|pg|| nt|algraves: 25 HCP NS|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: I always say "likely" because one never knows :)|pg|| nt|algraves: no fit ergo 3NT|pg|| nt|mikam1: conservative commentating |pg|| nt|mikam1: right|pg|| mb|2C|nt|mikam1: probably the fancy 2C here|pg|| mb|p|nt|algraves: bette safe than sorry|pg|| nt|mikam1: yes|pg|| nt|mikam1: now if 3H splinter by north - 3N by south|pg|| nt|algraves: 3 Quick tricks and 12 HCP you have to force to game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = FG a) nat b) BAL c) fit M|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: but perhaps he doesn't have enough for a splinter or that's not the way to bid after this 2C|pg|| nt|mikam1: don't know|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|mikam1: now 3C by north and....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: tarzan symmetric relays revealed north's exact shape|pg|| nt|algraves: well there is a lot of " science " now over this balanced 2C bid |pg|| nt|mikam1: I see Al|pg|| mb|3N|nt|mikam1: right|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: but they land in the right spot regardless|pg|| nt|algraves: people have ssystems to sort out hand type and direction.|pg|| nt|mikam1: so for all the big boards we've seen so far, the match is neck and neck|pg|| nt|ADONIS18: back in the old days: 1 sp - 3 nt.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|mikam1: well if north's red suits were switched, would the auction have been the same?|pg|| nt|algraves: what? 1S - 2NT |pg|| pc|dK|nt|algraves: gf balanced , not a bad way to play|pg|| nt|mikam1: if so then I'm not impressed by it all :)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|mikam1: and now a club finesse followed by a claim|pg|| mc|10|nt|mikam1: or just a claim|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SA6HAK97DT953CJT8,ST853HQ63DA74CK53,SKQJ92H4DJ62CAQ92,S74HJT852DKQ8C764|sv|e|nt|ahollan2: whoa 24 P-P-3@H-DBL // 4@H-DBL-P-6@C // end|pg|| nt|ahollan2: no double|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 11-15, 5+@S 1st/2nd seat NOT 5+@H|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N = Relay, FG|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@C = 4+@C|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@D ask // 2N = 0/1@H i think - let me check|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: now i know why i waffled 2@C = a) 4+@C b) 1-suit, short hi c) 3-suiter|pg|| nt|Barnets: we see 3N a better contract here than 4@s|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but 2N is 5+@S 4@C short @H|pg|| nt|Barnets: well bid|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@D = exactly 5134|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: getting that wrong shows how tired i must be|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|10|nt|Barnets: same contract in other room|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SK952HAT96DACQ832,SAJ73HKJDQJ7CKJ75,SQ64HQ874D86542CT,ST8H532DKT93CA964|sv|b|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 1C (1N) likely|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|algraves: EW 23 balanced|pg|| nt|mikam1: some play that a double by south in this spot shows short in the other minor|pg|| nt|mikam1: but with more values usually|pg|| nt|mikam1: assuming pass by east - which is not clear it will occur|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|algraves: this auction always plays a little better because you are over the opener and know where the cards are|pg|| nt|mikam1: he has a "good" 7 with all those spots|pg|| nt|mikam1: right|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: so he moves on trying for game|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|algraves: so you should bid with the east hand|pg|| nt|mikam1: and partner is vul|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 3C showed a max no doubt|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: I'm not sure he had a max, but he showed one|pg|| nt|mikam1: nobody ever goes low|pg|| nt|mikam1: and now the lead could be crucial|pg|| nt|ADONIS18: minimax|pg|| nt|algraves: he has 9 tricks |pg|| nt|algraves: the clubs play for 4 and he can get 3D |pg|| nt|mikam1: doesn't look like a max to me|pg|| nt|mikam1: right Alan|pg|| nt|algraves: heart and a spade|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|nt|mikam1: and with the diamond ace singleton entries plentiful|pg|| nt|algraves: South cant keep him off the dummy|pg|| nt|mikam1: he will not misguess the hearts when pressed to do so|pg|| nt|mikam1: south being the opening bidder|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|stc: He makes if he guesses the @c position|pg|| nt|algraves: yes if the switch is a heart you dont want to be a hero and do anything other than play the opener for the ACE|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: verhees opened precision 2@D klukowski DBL then sold out to 2@H north|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mikam1: has to be careful in clubs|pg|| nt|mikam1: must play the ace first I think|pg|| nt|algraves: he did not unblick the diamonds |pg|| nt|algraves: is that right operator|pg|| nt|algraves: ?|pg|| nt|mikam1: he still has enough entries though|pg|| nt|algraves: i mean it doesnt matte just curious|pg|| nt|mikam1: but needs to play a club to the ace now|pg|| nt|mikam1: and I'm sure he will|pg|| nt|stc: S looks 4-4-1-4|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: He hasn-t unblocked @d|pg|| nt|mikam1: when south shows with one diamond, he must have 4 or more clubs|pg|| nt|algraves: ok |pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|mikam1: and of course as he's either Muller or De Wijs, he plays correctly|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|nt|mikam1: I'm told names are correct here now|pg|| nt|algraves: well done by EW|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SK952HAT96DACQ832,SAJ73HKJDQJ7CKJ75,SQ64HQ874D86542CT,ST8H532DKT93CA964|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan2: 2@D = 11-5, 4415 minus 1 card|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan2: stiff @DA/K treated by some as doubleton and bid as balanced hand|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: over the Precision 2@D some pairs use 3@C/@D overcalls to show @D 3@C better than 3@D|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: Precision 2@D opening lets N-S find their heart fit before West shuts it out with a 1NT overcall|pg|| nt|ahollan2: ahh kit is here -- would you have overcalled 2N?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kit: However the called-for trump lead is effective, and may hold declarer to 6 tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan2: other room 3N west|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: system keeps flipping names but we believe really w: muller e: de wijs|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Barnets: he may make 3N|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|nt|Barnets: 3n made for 600|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d9|nt|Barnets: so netherlnds will take lead for first time|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKQJ75HK82DT7CAQ4,S832HJ5DQJ863C862,SA96HT976DK5CKJ73,ST4HAQ43DA942CT95|sv|o|nt|mikam1: they may change places in another couple of boards - just to confuse the opps|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|mikam1: if they win the Bermuda Bowl, I'm sure they'll be happy to be called by their partner's name|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = INV+ raise|pg|| nt|mikam1: and 2N probably + with 3 or 4 trumps|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|mikam1: yes sorry to step on your toes Al|pg|| nt|ADONIS18: 1hk in place=10|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no worries -- my snoring woke me up|pg|| nt|mikam1: and this will come in with the heart ace|pg|| nt|mikam1: on|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|mikam1: and quick claim coming|pg|| nt|mikam1: and we have a new leader in the match|pg|| nt|mikam1: as the Dutch picked up 11 on board 26|pg|| nt|mikam1: for bidding the light game|pg|| nt|algraves: Good play by east looking at 3 bad clubs to have partner cash hoped for heart king at this piont|pg|| nt|mikam1: and making it|pg|| nt|mikam1: kibs suggesting east might have underled the heart ace|pg|| nt|mikam1: declarer would not play low|pg|| nt|algraves: why ?|pg|| nt|mikam1: that would be giving up|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now just hold on for 70 boards|pg|| nt|algraves: yes ACE is the partnership play followed by Diamond|pg|| nt|mikam1: do you mean why are the kibs asking....or why would he underlead?|pg|| nt|algraves: no why underlead ?|pg|| nt|mikam1: agreed Alan|pg|| nt|mikam1: I was simply explaining to kibs|pg|| nt|algraves: right , of course|pg|| nt|mikam1: Netherlands have scored 25 imps in the last 5 boards|pg|| nt|mikam1: didn't I say this would be over quickly?|pg|| nt|mikam1: another failed prediction|pg|| nt|mikam1: but of course west doesn't know what we do|pg|| nt|mikam1: I'll go and tell him|pg|| nt|mikam1: anyone know his phone number?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in college we referred to result on 21 as a telephone |pg|| nt|mikam1: but kidding aside, the fact that they work so hard on such problems is what makes them great|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|mikam1: whew - he played|pg|| nt|algraves: every now and again someone suggests that a gong could go off when it no longer matters , but of course bridge is too unpredictable to employ that|pg|| nt|ahollan1: operator 4@S and ew collected big number|pg|| nt|mikam1: now claim|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SKQJ75HK82DT7CAQ4,S832HJ5DQJ863C862,SA96HT976DK5CKJ73,ST4HAQ43DA942CT95|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|Barnets: I think 2N asked for5Major|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N 14-16 // 2N modified puppet stayman // 3@H = 5@S [the modification]|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|Barnets: anyway 4@S better than 3N for sure|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan2: sorry barnet i started to doze off [again]|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4@H = transfer|pg|| nt|Barnets: np I was up at 4 also|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: bad guess - wanted east on lead with this @D layout but @HA onside still 10 tricks|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Barnets: easy hand to play|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Barnets: a friendly who has the @Ha in some games|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S953H532DJTCKT873,SQ87HQ64D6543CQ64,SAJ4HAT98DKQ72CJ5,SKT62HKJ7DA98CA92|sv|n|nt|algraves: well if spades were 5-0 he had to guess which way|pg|| nt|mikam1: I would imagine 1N by north all pass here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: same in other room where 1N=14-16 here 15-17|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ADONIS18: now @d|pg|| pc|s8|nt|algraves: this is two down with spade continuation |pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mikam1: declarer might have played diamonds first, but all very unclear|pg|| nt|mikam1: these 1N contracts are tough both ways|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mikam1: now if he cashes spades not even sure what north should discard|pg|| pc|s6|nt|mikam1: annoying to throw a heart and then lose three of them later|pg|| nt|mikam1: he won't on this hand|pg|| nt|mikam1: west may discard a discouraging diamond|pg|| nt|mikam1: if it can be read|pg|| nt|algraves: yes good point Michael|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|mikam1: declarer made only 5 tricks in the other room|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|algraves: killing the entry to the clubs|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|mikam1: this will be the same|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|algraves: nice defense|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|mikam1: agreed |pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S953H532DJTCKT873,SQ87HQ64D6543CQ64,SAJ4HAT98DKQ72CJ5,SKT62HKJ7DA98CA92|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 14-16 again|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|Barnets: looks down 1 or 2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan2: same in other room but there 1N = 15-17|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|Barnets: 2 now|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|c6|nt|Barnets: get signal from part|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SJ2HQ65DKQT753CQ9,S64HKT92DJ964CJ43,SAQ975HADA2CK8762,SKT83HJ8743D8CAT5|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|algraves: 27 HCP NS but somewhat unfavourable|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|mikam1: hard bid for north|pg|| nt|algraves: Invitaional natural|pg|| nt|mikam1: 3N is possible|pg|| mb|5D|nt|mikam1: assuming you have 6 diamond tricks etc|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: but so is this|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|mikam1: the bad diamond split makes both contracts difficult|pg|| nt|mikam1: 3N would not make on a heart lead which would be likely|pg|| nt|mikam1: things are bleak here too I suppose|pg|| pc|hA|nt|algraves: I dont see a way with rational defense|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mikam1: I guess declarer will win and lead a club from the dummy|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|mikam1: and east will think|pg|| nt|mikam1: and think|pg|| nt|mikam1: I'm told the other table is in 3N with a heart lead|pg|| nt|mikam1: that will not make, barring serious misdefense|pg|| nt|algraves: but everyone would bid come sort of game|pg|| nt|mikam1: which doesn't occur very often with these fellows|pg|| nt|mikam1: right Alan|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|mikam1: so much for my prediction that east would think!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 29 in other room strong 1@C - crash 1@D - P* - 2@D pass/correct verhees ends in 3N south|pg|| nt|mikam1: maybe he thought while declarer was in thought - a good practice|pg|| nt|mikam1: poor declarer - all lines are uncomfortable|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|algraves: maybe continue with the clubs the three of clubs is missing so maybe they are 3-3|pg|| nt|algraves: east knows the club is cashing on the signal by west at trick two|pg|| nt|algraves: and he knows the distribuion of thehand|pg|| nt|algraves: from the spade count|pg|| nt|algraves: so has somewhat of a double dummy defense problem|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|algraves: that was a nice play|pg|| nt|mikam1: 3N was off two in the other room|pg|| nt|algraves: if declarer bites he will think that east has a doubleton spade|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|mikam1: declarer needs to guess to cash the club I think - yes good point Alan|pg|| nt|mikam1: and he does|pg|| nt|mikam1: but still issues from declarer's viewpoint|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mikam1: assuming diamonds 3-2 |pg|| pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|nt|mikam1: still, 3 imps to Switzerland|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SJ2HQ65DKQT753CQ9,S64HKT92DJ964CJ43,SAQ975HADA2CK8762,SKT83HJ8743D8CAT5|sv|b|nt|Barnets: 4 boards until the half|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 2 suits same rank so majors or minors [CRASH]|pg|| mb|p|nt|Barnets: sorry lost count of sessions 1 more session today till half|pg|| mb|2D|nt|Barnets: what is 1@D Al ?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan2: 2@D = play here if minors or maybe more if majors|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: mentioned above 1@D = CRASH 2 suits same rank majors or minors|pg|| nt|Barnets: i see above|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: ahh finally figured out why verhees passed ostensibly 6-8 hcp but can be more with 0 or 1 controls [A=2 K=1]|pg|| nt|ahollan2: CRASH DBL = C [color] 1@D = R [rank] 1N = S [shape]|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan2: other room no EW bidding 1@S-3@D-5@D|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Barnets: down at least a couple|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Barnets: just needs diamonds t come in but---|pg|| nt|ahollan2: in some parts of the world CRASH known as CRO [colour rank other] or CRU [color rank unmatched]|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|sT|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: the swedish strong club system played by nystrom, cullin, michielsen actually uses CRO steps to show aces & kings in relay auctions|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|nt|Barnets: that was a winner|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan2: discard @CA and 3N overtricks|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|ahollan2: lost opportunity|pg|| nt|Barnets: the @CJ may have been clearer |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Barnets: down just 2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQ543HKQ84DA7CQ93,SAK82HJ32DJ8CAJT8,SJ6HA7DT965432C74,ST97HT965DKQCK652|sv|o|nt|algraves: tough game. I think I will wait until a seat is free in that corner game over there|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: :) right|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|algraves: lower stake as well|pg|| mb|1S!|an|no M|mb|p|nt|mikam1: haha|pg|| mb|1N|nt|algraves: bottom feeding at the rubber club to pay the rent|pg|| nt|mikam1: will west enter now?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1@C 2+@C 1@S not 4+@H/@S|pg|| nt|mikam1: or now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: perhaps now|pg|| nt|mikam1: or never|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|3D|nt|mikam1: and that pushed them up a bit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other room verhees opens precision 1@D so easy for klukowski to DBL with west hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikam1: to a contract which can be defeated|pg|| nt|ahollan1: kluk playing 3@S|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mikam1: 3S a bit high|pg|| nt|mikam1: as is 3D|pg|| pc|s3|nt|algraves: EW have to cash out the blacks to beat this|pg|| pc|sK|nt|mikam1: but the defense must cash|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| nt|mikam1: he may try to give a ruff|pg|| nt|mikam1: or perhaps he will try the club ace and see partner's reaction|pg|| nt|mikam1: which will be "please play another club"|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mikam1: or even better :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|mikam1: nice play by Muller (or De Wijs maybe)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|mikam1: still never found out who's really in which seat|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: De Wijs|pg|| nt|mikam1: thanks :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mikam1: De Wijs is west|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|mikam1: okay got it|pg|| mc|8|nt|mikam1: and 3 imps for good defense|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQ543HKQ84DA7CQ93,SAK82HJ32DJ8CAJT8,SJ6HA7DT965432C74,ST97HT965DKQCK652|sv|o|nt|ahollan2: 1@D 11-15 2+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan2: sorry premature alert|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: 3@D to play|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Barnets: 3 imps for Switzerland when5@d went down just 1|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|Barnets: down 1 is good bridge I am told|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SA7HKT952DAQCQT53,ST42HAQ863D632CJ2,SQ953HJDKJT84CA94,SKJ86H74D975CK876|sv|n|nt|algraves: MULLERDEWIJS in each seat|pg|| nt|mikam1: including no heart lead by Muller|pg|| nt|mikam1: 2 more to play here|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Dutch by 6 as the 2nd set is nearing an end|pg|| mb|2C!|an|gazzilli|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|positive|nt|algraves: that would be some type of Gazili i bet|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: I'm told that the Swiss have another 1.4 imps on live scores - probably some penalty for ultra fast play|pg|| nt|mikam1: and now a Gazilli auction landing in 3N|pg|| nt|algraves: what would you lead on this auction Michael|pg|| nt|mikam1: that's a great question |pg|| pc|sT|nt|mikam1: he found a great lead too|pg|| nt|mikam1: I guess there's something in it, as south must be short(ish) in spades|pg|| nt|algraves: rather than guess which minor he chooses a lead that has significant chances for succes on many hands|pg|| nt|mikam1: and no other lead is very happy|pg|| nt|mikam1: right|pg|| nt|mikam1: I am told that De Wijs is known for his lead-expertise in the Netherlands|pg|| nt|algraves: or Muller|pg|| nt|mikam1: the rest of his game seems quite shoddy - but he's a good leader|pg|| nt|mikam1: please no cards or letters, just some lousy American humor|pg|| nt|algraves: they are both very nice guys |pg|| nt|mikam1: yes, really like them myself|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i was also known or my leads. in fact in college systems were developed to ensure it was me making opening lead|pg|| nt|algraves: as are North south of course as well|pg|| nt|mikam1: hahaha Al|pg|| nt|mikam1: at this level most are good fellows - agreed Alan|pg|| nt|mikam1: and they managed to beat this in the other room too|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|mikam1: and that after a heart lead|pg|| nt|mikam1: declarer played on hearts which didn't work out|pg|| nt|algraves: they can take the next 5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|mikam1: I'm told Simon has a column in IMP magazine on opening leads|pg|| pc|hA|nt|algraves: might as well use them up on one hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s4|nt|algraves: West knows his partner has another heart|pg|| nt|mikam1: apparently he reads his own stuff - thus the good spade lead here|pg|| nt|algraves: declarer is going to lose about 4 or 5 finesses in a row|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|algraves: thanks operator , a very difficult job done very well|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|mikam1: and now down 2j|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|7|nt|mikam1: well done by the defense |pg|| nt|mikam1: 3 imps more to the Dutch|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SA7HKT952DAQCQT53,ST42HAQ863D632CJ2,SQ953HJDKJT84CA94,SKJ86H74D975CK876|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 30 zimmermann playing 3@D|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan2: 1N 14-16 |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@H 4/5@H not 4@H & 4@S|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|ahollan2: 3N guarantees 4@S|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|Barnets: how to play safely for the ninth trick ?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Barnets: not sure this was best|pg|| nt|Barnets: bur West cannot get at spades with south holding the @S7|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan2: de wijs lead @ST|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c9|nt|Barnets: if west had the 8 i think the 5 is astopper |pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: tough hand, could have made|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|mc|8|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2S9842HQ93DJ2CQJ62,SQJ75HAKDK943CAT8,SAKHJ752DAQT7C754,ST63HT864D865CK93|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: last board of the set segment 3 of 6 starts at 25 past the hour|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the 3 sets tomorrow|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then|pg|| nt|mikam1: thanks Alan and Al |pg|| nt|algraves: you too |pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|mikam1: what to lead from the north hand|pg|| nt|mikam1: that would have been mine|pg|| nt|mikam1: unhappily with Jxxx|pg|| pc|h4|nt|mikam1: but really what else?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s5|nt|mikam1: I can see six tricks|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|mikam1: question is whether declarer can manage another|pg|| nt|algraves: south may have tried the three |pg|| nt|algraves: on that lead|pg|| nt|mikam1: good one Alan|pg|| nt|mikam1: that would have been a nice play - but couldn't declarer have say, A7?|pg|| nt|algraves: yes, and he can always duck the seond round |pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|mikam1: he might have to guess whether to play the 3 this time|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|mikam1: and he didn't |pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|mikam1: so might make now|pg|| nt|mikam1: but still - not quite over|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|mikam1: I think a club switch will still do|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mikam1: and he did find it|pg|| nt|algraves: no they have 3 diamonds a club, a heart and 2 SPADES|pg|| nt|mikam1: right|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|mikam1: and they will get them too|pg|| pc|d7|nt|algraves: declarer can do anything about ti|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|mikam1: south will switch to the diamond jack when in|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|mikam1: or this|pg|| nt|algraves: ah |pg|| nt|mikam1: must play a diamond|pg|| nt|mikam1: don't see why not either|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: there is a revoke and penalized card|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|mikam1: oh well that changes everything|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|algraves: of course the revoke|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|cQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|mikam1: so we will have to wait for the score|pg|| nt|algraves: thanks everyone see you later Gator|pg|| nt|mikam1: in any case, set is over Netherlands gained 6 - see you later|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i asked bbo for a way to allow operator capture that type of info in 2005. should be available soon|pg|| nt|algraves: yes there is the 20 year rule in effect|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2S9842HQ93DJ2CQJ62,SQJ75HAKDK943CAT8,SAKHJ752DAQT7C754,ST63HT864D865CK93|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|ahollan2: last board of the set segment 3 of 6 starts at 25 past the hour|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|Barnets: tks all specs and our great operator and AL I will see you tomorrow|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pg||