vg|England Mixed Traials,Match 15,I,9,16,Team 1,0,Team 2,0| rs|1NN+3,1NN+3,6HSx-4,5DE=,3HW-2,3HW-2,2DE+1,3NS-2,3SW-1,3SWx-2,3DN-2,4SEx-1,4DEx-1,3DE+1,4HW-1,3NW-1| pn|Shashou,T. Sherman,Sandqvist,D. Sherman,Byrne,H Erichsen,Bell,E Erichsen|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK542H73DKJT7C962,ST6HJT652DA852CJ7,SAQ973HQ8DQ64CAQ8,SJ8HAK94D93CKT543|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK542H73DKJT7C962,ST6HJT652DA852CJ7,SAQ973HQ8DQ64CAQ8,SJ8HAK94D93CKT543|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKJHKT9876DK2CQ83,SQ98763HDA8CAKJ52,S52HAQJ432D5CT964,SAT4H5DQJT97643C7|sv|b|nt|vugraphzga: Hello and welcome back to the England Mixed Trials|pg|| mb|4D|nt|Cantorm: Hello from me too|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Hello and welcome Martin :) |pg|| mb|4H|nt|Cantorm: A little commentary from Germany where it is duöö and wet, perfect bridge weather :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: The top 10 pairs out of 19 will go through to the next round|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Live results can be found here: http://ebu.co.uk/documents/results-data/live/EuropeanMixedTrials2021.htm|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Close IMO between 4@d and 5@d with David's hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: An interesting board here for you!|pg|| mb|6D|nt|Cantorm: makeable even on @h lead|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: sets up a @d trick for defence but @c finesse onside gets rid of the @ss|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: At the other table Michael Byrne passed 4D with the S hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: @h will not play well|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|Cantorm: 4 down|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: N started off just putting 2@h down, and then put down the AQJx|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|Cantorm: a save against a making 6@d, but he hadn't made it yet|pg|| nt|Cantorm: oh yes, the old jokes|pg|| nt|Cantorm: not so funny any more|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but I guess after all our months of online play where we couldn't do that it has a faint whiff of freshness|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKJHKT9876DK2CQ83,SQ98763HDA8CAKJ52,S52HAQJ432D5CT964,SAT4H5DQJT97643C7|sv|b|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKJHT963DAJ64CA87,SA82HQJ85D83CQT95,SQT7654H2DT9CKJ64,S93HAK74DKQ752C32|sv|o|nt|Cantorm: NS currently in 5th, EW in 14th|pg|| mb|1C|an|2+|mb|p|mb|2S|an|weak (gave a thumbs down)|nt|Cantorm: kibs shd not pay attention to the imp scores showing here, as the boards are imped across all tables|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphzga: No, it just serves to give a very rough indication of how the round is going|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: so if every other EW bids and makes 6@d (unlikely I think) the Shermans would be losing about 6 not winning 11|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzga: NS can actuallu make 4@s on this board, but I don't know how many will bid it|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Cantorm: at pairs S would dbl I think (well I would)|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but not a chance I'd do so at imps|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: EW have made it up to 11th|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Cantorm: this certainly off, Q is how many|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: @SJ then 2 top @cs|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Cantorm: or not|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and @HK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s8|nt|Cantorm: oh no|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Cantorm: cannot be right to do thatbut @c continuation stillok|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|c8|mc|7|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKJHT963DAJ64CA87,SA82HQJ85D83CQT95,SQT7654H2DT9CKJ64,S93HAK74DKQ752C32|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|hK|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAJ8HQ75DQTCAJT87,S97HKT43DJ652CQ63,ST32HA962DK3CK942,SKQ654HJ8DA9874C5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Cantorm: I am tetmpted by 1N with S|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Cantorm: this 14 is better than some 16s|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzga: The other table has made a foray to 3N with the NS hands (on a diamond lead)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Cantorm: @d lead is not so nice|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: evcen on @s lead need to find the @cQ and then still a bit to do|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: I think on the bidding you might find it|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|vugraphzga: But by no means easy!|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|Cantorm: well if you overcall 1N with S hand N might go straight to 3, then it's not so easy|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: if N Staymans and E bids the @ds then yes|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but then you get @d lead|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAJ8HQ75DQTCAJT87,S97HKT43DJ652CQ63,ST32HA962DK3CK942,SKQ654HJ8DA9874C5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQ873HQJDAT9CAJ95,SAKJ9654HA873D3C6,STHKT652DKJ865CK2,S2H94DQ742CQT8743|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|2+|nt|Cantorm: if NS were playing 4 cd majors and N passed S could open 1@s to give Tracey a shick|pg|| nt|Cantorm: shock even|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2S!|an|5+!h+5+!d/!c|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: that is a useful agreement to have - when you pick this hand up|pg|| mb|2N!|an|Asking for minor|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: asking strength I guess, but a passed hand|pg|| mb|3D|an|5!h and 5!d |mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: ah, that makes more sense, 2@s michaels style @H & minor|pg|| nt|Cantorm: she is tempted|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I might have on previous round|pg|| nt|Cantorm: unlikely to be doubled if she bids 3@s|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: At the other table north opened and S GF. Now when W came in, they had to X|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but 3@d is far from straightforward with the breaks|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: I'm not crazy about opening the N hand|pg|| nt|Cantorm: aceless the main negative for me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Cantorm: @HQ was staring at me saying "lead me"|pg|| nt|Cantorm: is there a strict time control Louise?|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Yes, the last round a lot of pairs were slow and were penalised|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: I think its 4 imps (split unless it is clear otherwise)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h2|nt|Cantorm: I think if the CoC determine times you should keep to them|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Here in Germany they are pretty ferocious about that|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQ873HQJDAT9CAJ95,SAKJ9654HA873D3C6,STHKT652DKJ865CK2,S2H94DQ742CQT8743|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|gf could have 2+!c|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|mc|7|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S9HAT96DAT652CK74,S3HQ432DJ8CAQ8632,SQ8542H75DQ974CT9,SAKJT76HKJ8DK3CJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: I once got penalised for late finish of final round despite having been almost a board late starting it cos of slow pair in front|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|Cantorm: and having advised a TD of that fact|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Cantorm: chief TD said it was automatic|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: They have been very harsh on any latecomers, even though there are only 3 minutes between rounds|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: and Phil Godfrey (the TD) is such a nice guy|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Up to 2 (or maybe 3) minutes is a warning, anything more is a automatic penalty|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|vugraphzga: Phil is doing a great job|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|Cantorm: to be fair as it is a trial for a European where time penalties will likely be applied, no bad thing|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h5|nt|Cantorm: say hi to Phil from me|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: I definitely will|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|d7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|Cantorm: EW can mae a lot of tricks in @c|pg|| mc|7|nt|Cantorm: make|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: The other table is playing in 4@sX|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 11 I believe on a quick assessment|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S9HAT96DAT652CK74,S3HQ432DJ8CAQ8632,SQ8542H75DQ974CT9,SAKJT76HKJ8DK3CJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|dT|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAKQ763H42DCKT932,S98HAKQTDA862CAQ7,ST2HJ985DJ9543C64,SJ54H763DKQT7CJ85|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: 6-5 come alive (Andrew Robson)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Cantorm: I have 19 points (Walter the Walrus)|pg|| mb|3C|nt|Cantorm: NV I think I might settle for 3@d|pg|| nt|Cantorm: or 3N if I can prohibit a @s lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Haha|pg|| nt|Cantorm: how much longer for this round?|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: They have 21 minutes, so I think they'll be ok time wise|pg|| nt|Cantorm: yes, shd be no prob|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|vugraphzga: What should 4@c be as opposed to 3@s?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: well David has a lot more than he has promised, but still takes the low road|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: control I guess|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: if the great dealer gives you AKQ you generally don't have to look too hard for an opening lead|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Cantorm: auction might have suggested trump but she didn't have one|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Cantorm: can come to 9 tricks I think|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Cantorm: that involved ruffing a @h with @D7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: This is very pretty |pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: can endplay N to lead @h into tenace|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAKQ763H42DCKT932,S98HAKQTDA862CAQ7,ST2HJ985DJ9543C64,SJ54H763DKQT7CJ85|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S74HAQJDQ92CQ9872,SAKQ5H9873DA84CK6,ST986H64DT75CJT43,SJ32HKT52DKJ63CA5|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Cantorm: why you don't dbl those at imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|Cantorm: I forget who (a kib will surely remind me) but one of the American greats once said to his teammates |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: "did you really need the extra 50?"|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Haha|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: This is the last board of this round|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Live results: http://ebu.co.uk/documents/results-data/live/EuropeanMixedTrials2021.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Top 10 qualify|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: Should you maybe cash both clubs first?|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzga: It is easy when you can see al 4 hands|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|sQ|nt|Cantorm: so next round in about 15?|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|c9|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzga: Exactly, see you then!|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S74HAQJDQ92CQ9872,SAKQ5H9873DA84CK6,ST986H64DT75CJT43,SJ32HKT52DKJ63CA5|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|5cd Stayman|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|8|pg||