vg|73_ Deutsche Teammeisterschaft,Round Robin 5 of 7,I,17,24,MHDLEV,0,genialer Teamname,0| rs|4HE+2,4HE+1,4HE=,5CE-1,2CN+1,1NN+1,3HN+1,4HN+1,2HN=,3DE-2,4DS=,5DS-1,2NS=,3NS-1,6CN=,6CN=| pn|Jokisch,Eggeling,Kasimir,Grünke,Schwerdt,Hopfenheit,Linde,Reim|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAJ7532HT8DJT74CJ,SQTHJ64DQ82CAKQT5,S984HK53D53C87632,SK6HAQ972DAK96C94|sv|o|nt|vugraphzex: Wlecome back to Berlin! :) One mile away from the Brandenburger Tor|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|vugraphzex: Mrs.President at the table|pg|| mb|2S|an|Weak Jump|nt|vugraphzex: Running Scores: http://bridge-scores.de/openteam21/|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4H|an|good !H raise|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|Cantorm: Hello folks|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Cantorm: with the hearts so nice 12 tricks available|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: looks like play out of turn from declarer|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: ...and accepted|pg|| nt|Cantorm: plaz out of turn is a nightmare for the VG operator, since of course bbo does not allow it|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: so 12 tricks|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAJ7532HT8DJT74CJ,SQTHJ64DQ82CAKQT5,S984HK53D53C87632,SK6HAQ972DAK96C94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2S!|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKT9763HKJ5DJ63C5,S2HQ932DA742CKQT6,SQJ854HA84DK5C987,SAHT76DQT98CAJ432|sv|n|mb|1D!|nt|vugraphzex: E/W play polish style|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Cantorm: we had all forgotten about plaz from wrong hand, bid out of turn, and revoke|pg|| nt|Cantorm: sorry, forgot to change keyboard from En to De|pg|| mb|d|mb|2N!|nt|Cantorm: forgot when all play was online and it could not happen|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: 10 tricks in @D 9 in @s|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so par is 4@d= or @c the same |pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: intersting|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Cantorm: ah yes, in @d a @c ruff|pg|| nt|Cantorm: ty|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I predict the play will take a little time|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: 1@D = 4+ @D, unbalanced, maybe longer @C|pg|| nt|Cantorm: he just about has to play for @HJ onside|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but faces the danger of many spade losers if trumps go badly|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Cantorm: @c lead for the ruff would have beaten this|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Cantorm: and still can|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and has|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h7|nt|Cantorm: Udo possibly wondering why no @c lead trick 1 if it was singleton|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKT9763HKJ5DJ63C5,S2HQ932DA742CKQT6,SQJ854HA84DK5C987,SAHT76DQT98CAJ432|sv|n|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2N!|mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s9|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SJT5H653DKJ643CJ8,SQ8642HKDT72C6532,SA73HT987DACAKT97,SK9HAQJ42DQ985CQ4|sv|e|nt|Cantorm: if I were writing for a bulletin that hand might well feature|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzex: Running Scores: http://bridge-scores.de/openteam21/|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: E/W are in the german mixed team, N/S in the open team|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: TD was here, N have talked to him cause of board 18|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Cantorm: Deutsche Kibs dürfen gerne mir auf deutsch schreiben. |pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Cantorm: what was the problem on 18 Micha?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|vugraphzex: not sure... at the moment|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SJT5H653DKJ643CJ8,SQ8642HKDT72C6532,SA73HT987DACAKT97,SK9HAQJ42DQ985CQ4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s5|mc|8|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAT965HQ762DTCKT2,S432HA3DAK653CJ63,SK8HKJ854DJ8CA875,SQJ7HT9DQ9742CQ94|sv|b|mb|1C!|an|modified polish style|mb|1H|mb|1S!|an|t/o with 0-3 !S|mb|2N!|an|invitational(+) with !H's |mb|p|nt|Cantorm: I wonder whether the TD call relates to the 1@d opening. In Polish Club, it includes hands with 4@ds 5@cs 11-14 hcp|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so maybe N doesn't think he was informed of 5@cs possible, therefore could not imagine singleton in South|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Cantorm: modern bridge - 4 bids, 3 of them alerted|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|Cantorm: 3@d looks like it should be too - maybe short suit trial|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: if 3@d short suit I can see why S might decline|pg|| nt|Cantorm: with his own singleton|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Cantorm: I'm not a big fan of short suit trials, tho with one partner I play a system where we can make both short and long trials in some situations|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: 3@d bid explained at table as @d values apparently - also a reason to decline with singleton|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAT965HQ762DTCKT2,S432HA3DAK653CJ63,SK8HKJ854DJ8CA875,SQJ7HT9DQ9742CQ94|sv|b|mb|1D!|nt|vugraphzew: Running scores: http://bridge-scores.de/openteam21/|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S53HA97DQJ76CAKJ8,SJ874HKJ5DT4C9654,SQT962HQ842D2CQT7,SAKHT63DAK9853C32|sv|n|nt|Cantorm: in which case the loss is deserved - if trials show values, why lie, why not bid 3@c, then S would accept|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: Kasimir says: 3@D is the only possibility to invite, 3@C is something other|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: so we had a misunderstanding here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|4+ !D, unbal, longer !C possible|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: now we see the full explanation of 1@d opener, perhaps as a reaction to 18|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: sure, if 3@d is the only trial available, then S should accept (but then why did N describe it as values, unless he meant values generally ie non-minimum overcall|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: not quite sure what declarer's plan is here|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Cantorm: cross ruff or suit establishment|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S53HA97DQJ76CAKJ8,SJ874HKJ5DT4C9654,SQT962HQ842D2CQT7,SAKHT63DAK9853C32|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|spades|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|sT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKT2H62DAQT9753C4,SJ763H73DK82CKT52,S4HAJ985D4CAQ9876,SAQ985HKQT4DJ6CJ3|sv|e|nt|Cantorm: some distribution to get the pulses racing|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Cantorm: except for Marie with her dull flat 7 count|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: 2@s very restrained with 4 card fit, outside doubleton and apparently well placed @DK|pg|| nt|Cantorm: even when 1@s is limited to 17|pg|| nt|Cantorm: can Udo find the green card?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: if I was planning to bid 4@c over 3@d I would have preferred 3@c instead of dbl|pg|| nt|Cantorm: then 3@h over 3@d describes the hand pretty well|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: 3@s from W might have given NS even bigger problems|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: sonst sieht doch alles richtig aus?|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: sorry|pg|| nt|Cantorm: np|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Micha when is the next set please|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKT2H62DAQT9753C4,SJ763H73DK82CKT52,S4HAJ985D4CAQ9876,SAQ985HKQT4DJ6CJ3|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQJ98HA86DA654CA5,S752HKQDJ9832C973,SA64H7532DT7CKQT4,SKT3HJT94DKQCJ862|sv|b|nt|vugraphzex: 25 minutes|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|vugraphzex: 13:00 CET|pg|| nt|Cantorm: thx|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Cantorm: do NS play weak NT? I don't recall them doing so, but it's been a while|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|Cantorm: I'm told they do|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and N bypasses the @h suit. Terence Reese would approve|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|nt|vugraphzex: @D 2 Marie = @H preference|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d8|mc|8|nt|Cantorm: they say "where there are 8 tricks there are usually 9"|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but usually isn't always|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQJ98HA86DA654CA5,S752HKQDJ9832C973,SA64H7532DT7CKQT4,SKT3HJT94DKQCJ862|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAKQT32H9DA64CKQ9,SJ987HQJ75DKQ2C86,S64HK83DJTCAT7542,S5HAT642D98753CJ3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|creative style Multi|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: last board this round, next set in 20 minutes, I plan to be here, but my wife may have other plans|pg|| nt|Cantorm: "creative style" is a description I have not previously heard or seen|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: this was Maries explanation to Peter :)|pg|| mb|3H!|an|pass/correct|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: I like the description, but I know plenty of bridge players who would ask for a more precise explanation|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I don't like passing the multi with the S hand|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I'm asked why my comments go to table not kibitzers|pg|| nt|vugraphzex: 0-16 HCP, maybe just 5-card M if Weak2 ;)|pg|| mb|6C|nt|Cantorm: because this is live bridge played at tables in a hotel in Berlin|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: with traditional old style bbo vugraph|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so the players can't see anything on here|pg|| nt|Cantorm: to be fair, bidding directly might have got them to the doomed 6@S|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|mc|12|nt|vugraphzex: back in 10 minutes with 1st vs 3rd|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAKQT32H9DA64CKQ9,SJ987HQJ75DKQ2C86,S64HK83DJTCAT7542,S5HAT642D98753CJ3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|hearts and minor|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|mc|12|nt|vugraphzew: Last board of the match, we restart at 1.00 pm|pg|| pg||