vg|B 2019 Soloway R16,Segment 2 of 4,I,16,30,Nickell,25,Lall,22| rs|3NW+2,5CW=,2HN=,2SW+1,5DWx-3,4SN=,2HS-1,2CN-1,3NS-2,3NS-1,3NS+1,1CN+3,5CS-1,5CS-2,3DS=,2NS-1,5DS=,5SEx-3,3NS+1,3NS+1,3NW-1,3NE-1,3SE+1,4HW=,4SN-1,1HWx-1,3SW-1,2SW-1,4HS-2,3DW-1| pn|Rodwell,Zia,Meckstroth,Gold,H Lall,Nickell,Milner,Katz|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ752HJ8543DQ98C8,SAK643HK7DK64CQ53,SJ98HAQT6DJT75CA6,STH92DA32CKJT9742|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|an|size ask or !c|mb|p|mb|2N|an|thumbs down|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: 2@S Range Ask a) BAL INV b) @C // 2N = min, reject BAL INV // 3@S = 6+@C, shortness|pg|| pc|h5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same start to auction in other room but nickell bid 4@C instead of 3N now playing 5@C|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|s4|mc|11|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQ752HJ8543DQ98C8,SAK643HK7DK64CQ53,SJ98HAQT6DJT75CA6,STH92DA32CKJT9742|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|!c or Range Ask|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|min|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|!s shortage|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan2: zia rebid 3N rather than 4@C|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Director called because 4@c was NF|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SKQ53HQTDAJ32CQ42,S8642HAK43DK9874C,S9HJ98765DQCAJT96,SAJT7H2DT65CK8753|sv|o|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|mc|8|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SKQ53HQTDAJ32CQ42,S8642HAK43DK9874C,S9HJ98765DQCAJT96,SAJT7H2DT65CK8753|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|sT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKT86HK8DA82C9432,SJ2HJ75DKJT7CKJ86,SQ9753HAT3D9CAQ75,SA4HQ9642DQ6543CT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|an|4!s, |mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: can be 800 but might get out for 500. 4@s is making|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|fuquay: Meckwell play reverse suit preference, I believe, which would mean that the @SQ showed @C|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|Cantorm: now has to get @h right and no reason not to|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|dQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKT86HK8DA82C9432,SJ2HJ75DKJT7CKJ86,SQ9753HAT3D9CAQ75,SA4HQ9642DQ6543CT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2S!|an|michaels|mb|3H!|an|good !s raise|mb|3N|an|"bid your minor"|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|sT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S95HK643DK973CT63,SJT873HT85DJ8CKQJ,SAQ42HQJ7DA4C7542,SK6HA92DQT652CA98|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: opposite unpassed hand 1@S obligatory with 4@S and not 4@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3rd seat is a different story|pg|| mb|1N|nt|fuquay: As we see :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: show of hands -- who predicted meckstroth's sequence of PASS then DBL|pg|| nt|Cantorm: not I|pg|| nt|fuquay: It would have worked well if S had a nine or ten point hand|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Cantorm: support dbl?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: pass of 1@H showed 3@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|fuquay: I assume that the pass of 1@H generally shows 3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so meck kept open the possibility of competing in @C or resting in the moysian fit|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|fuquay: I think the double also would encourage S to pass with a 9 or 10 count which was possible|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: i forget that they defend a trick or 4 better than me|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and declare also that much better than me|pg|| nt|fuquay: The odds for doubling 1N when they are vulnerable are pretty good when it is close|pg|| pc|hT|nt|fuquay: making one is not a disaster and down one or two is good|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|fuquay: hi|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S95HK643DK973CT63,SJT873HT85DJ8CKQJ,SAQ42HQJ7DA4C7542,SK6HA92DQT652CA98|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d!|an|3!h|mb|r!|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|medwards: Think I prefer 1NT rather than a support X here.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|medwards: East West will have a good count here shortly|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|cA|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|mc|7|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK98HK976DKCAK654,SQ6532HA4DT92CQ92,SJ7HJT3DAQ8543CJ7,SAT4HQ852DJ76CT83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: 1N seems a better description of S hand than strong 1@C|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: 3rd vul & 4th seat 1N = 15-17|pg|| nt|Cantorm: well that puts paid to this 3N|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: 19 milner also playing a 4-3 fit 2@C north missing trump AKQ|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Cantorm: and he jack Al|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: *the|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: before the brain cramp i did intend to include J|pg|| nt|fuquay: I was asked why 19 was down only one|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d4|nt|fuquay: And it looks like down two UNLESS S ducked the @SJ and E did not play @SK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|nt|fuquay: we did not see the last few cards because of the clai|pg|| nt|fuquay: claim|pg|| nt|Cantorm: play record showed down more but it seemed an unlikely play at the end|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK98HK976DKCAK654,SQ6532HA4DT92CQ92,SJ7HJT3DAQ8543CJ7,SAT4HQ852DJ76CT83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|medwards: Modern 1NT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|mc|8|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S9652HA843DT75CJ3,SJT84HQJ2D9832C86,SQH965DAKQCAKQ972,SAK73HKT7DJ64CT54|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL // 1@D = 0-7|pg|| mb|3C|an|!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = INV, not 4@H/@S|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 3N makes with @s 4-4|pg|| nt|reisig: They never are 4-4 for me :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i've never seen this 3@D bid|pg|| mb|3H|an|not 4!h|nt|fuquay: But 5@C seems a trick short|pg|| mb|p|nt|Cantorm: if either can bid 3@s asking for half stop they might get there|pg|| nt|fuquay: 4@H would be interesting|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: But should fail|pg|| mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: 20 same auction and lead in the closed room|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S9652HA843DT75CJ3,SJT84HQJ2D9832C86,SQH965DAKQCAKQ972,SAK73HKT7DJ64CT54|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Spades four four so|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|medwards: Not sure I like pass with two majors and an ace|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4ST3HKDAJ8743CAJ65,SKJ987HJ94DKT65C3,SAQ654HA52D9CK972,S2HQT8763DQ2CQT84|sv|e|mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = weak weak 2M [2M openers are constructive]|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 3@H now pass/correct?|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|ahollan1: type faster al!!!|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: n/s are reading multi defense notes|pg|| nt|fuquay: Do Meckwell really need to read notes to defend multi?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: read along with meckwell http://web2.acbl.org/defensedatabase/mc20.pdf|pg|| nt|fuquay: S has a very trick bid here|pg|| nt|fuquay: tricky|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: would have been fun to watch defense of 3@HX|pg|| mb|4S|nt|fuquay: The x is for takeout if they are following the notes they are reading|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i thought acbl defense failed to mention follow-up bids after (2@D)-natural overcall|pg|| nt|fuquay: Al is right --- I misread|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so thought notes stopped with 3@D |pg|| nt|fuquay: So maybe it was closer to responsive than takeout|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but maybe small print suggests treat 3@H as if EW preempting in @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then dbl becomes responsive??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i.e. as if (2@H)-3@D-(3@H)-DBL|pg|| nt|fuquay: Kibitzer points out that 4@S looks makable --- 6 @S tricks (three @D ruffs and one @H ruff) to go with 2 @H, 1@D, and 1@C|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: even katz opened east hand [2@H]|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if nickell would also then it is a CLEAR opener|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|fuquay: It is a little double dummy since this line requires that E not overruff any @D|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: extremely reliable source tells me that meckwell use ther own "long version" of defense vs multi|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4ST3HKDAJ8743CAJ65,SKJ987HJ94DKT65C3,SAQ654HA52D9CK972,S2HQT8763DQ2CQT84|sv|e|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|medwards: Trump lead vs clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: North's hand looks great for a club slam|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|medwards: 4H should confirm clubs I would think|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Lall might think it's a choice of games bid|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|medwards: Hard hand to bid after the pre empt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|medwards: Wrong again!|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|medwards: I would lead a club|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|medwards: So I would be wrong I guess|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SK4H84DAQT4CQ9832,S8765H976D8CAKJT5,SAT2HQJT52DKJ63C4,SQJ93HAK3D9752C76|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|fuquay: but generally more @H than this :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 11-15|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D fits a bit better|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so not only do i not look at other hands when trying to figure out declarer play -- i don't look at hands when translating bids|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C can be 55 minors 5/4 either way but NOT 6@D 4@C [rebid 2@D]|pg|| nt|fuquay: I have to go, bye|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: lall in 2N south|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d2|mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SK4H84DAQT4CQ9832,S8765H976D8CAKJT5,SAT2HQJT52DKJ63C4,SQJ93HAK3D9752C76|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|puppet to 2!d|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|forced|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|5!h invite|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|medwards: This has very little play|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|nt|medwards: ?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S5HA5DAK9652CQJ84,SKQ32H94D83CA7653,ST87HKT732DJ74CK2,SAJ964HQJ86DQTCT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|4C|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4@C fit-showing raise|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S5HA5DAK9652CQJ84,SKQ32H94D83CA7653,ST87HKT732DJ74CK2,SAJ964HQJ86DQTCT9|sv|o|nt|medwards: Well, It had more play then I thought|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2N!|an|4+!s limit raise|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Ten Nine f Clubs coming down|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAJT76HK2DKJ32C92,SQ954H9875DA876CJ,SHAJT64DQ95CAKQ86,SK832HQ3DT4CT7543|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|5!s, 8+|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|5+!h|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL // 1@H = FG a) BAL, 11-13 b) 5+@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 5+@H, asking|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 5+@S, 0-2@H|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|s6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAJT76HK2DKJ32C92,SQ954H9875DA876CJ,SHAJT64DQ95CAKQ86,SK832HQ3DT4CT7543|sv|e|nt|medwards: Alot of action for three IMPs|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|FSF|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: Coffee break hand BRB|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAT95H974D98762C3,SQ2HT53DA53CT7642,S764HKJ6DKJ4CQJ95,SKJ83HAQ82DQTCAK8|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: if top level player rejects vul invite -- don't stop at beating just 1 trick|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|mc|8|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAT95H974D98762C3,SQ2HT53DA53CT7642,S764HKJ6DKJ4CQJ95,SKJ83HAQ82DQTCAK8|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|3C|an|mixed|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| nt|medwards: Several lines of play on this hand|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|mc|8|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SA96H42DQT3CAQJ73,S542HAQT6DA876C82,SQ3HJ95DJ954CT964,SKJT87HK873DK2CK5|sv|o|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|an|Meckwell|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 1 minor or both majors|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: DBL probably pass/correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S must be both majors with longer @S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: meck's 3@C = pressure bid|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|ritong: gold must find the dummy a little too good|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other vugraph match has finished Q2|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: we have 26 min on the clock|pg|| nt|ritong: is he tanking ?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|ritong: apparently he is|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|ritong: was|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SA96H42DQT3CAQJ73,S542HAQT6DA876C82,SQ3HJ95DJ954CT964,SKJT87HK873DK2CK5|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: No aces and a dead CK but goes!|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|medwards: NVul also|pg|| nt|medwards: Because South did not win we wait!|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S5HQT9875DJ62C862,ST9HAKJ32DA73CAK9,SAKQJ7642HDK4CQ73,S83H64DQT985CJT54|sv|n|nt|ritong: hi everyone :)|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ritong: any reason to avoid 4@s ?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this would be 1st for me -- RHO opens 2N and i hold 7 cashing tricks|pg|| nt|ritong: and counting, al|pg|| nt|ahollan1: duh 8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that will team me - i usually count residual since anything over 6 too tough for me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: teach |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i have no ide if meckwell use any toys over 2N|pg|| nt|ritong: i somehow believe that eight carders are out of "toys"|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: i was asked about 2N-DBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure about zia-gold but zia-jansma 2N = 20-bad 22|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ritong: welcome to paul barden|pg|| nt|aardv: hello|pg|| nt|ritong: who is kind enough to come with us for three boards|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|aardv: thank you|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ritong: maybe next set , paul ?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|c9|pg|| nt|aardv: how long's the interval?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d3|nt|ritong: rather late in old europe|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|nt|ritong: i do not know for sure maybe al does|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S5HQT9875DJ62C862,ST9HAKJ32DA73CAK9,SAKQJ7642HDK4CQ73,S83H64DQT985CJT54|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|medwards: This might get interesting|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg|| nt|medwards: Another spade best i think|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|medwards: ?|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|medwards: How often do you defend one heart Xed with eight spades?|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S87HAT8432D983CK6,SKJ632H76DKQT6C85,SAT4HQ9DAJ54CT743,SQ95HKJ5D72CAQJ92|sv|b|nt|vugraphzff: we resume at 7 pm local time|pg|| nt|ahollan1: click on tab=tables then button for vugraph schedule shows start time in your own timezone|pg|| nt|ritong: which is ?|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: we are in San Francisco|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|r!|mb|p|nt|ritong: yes but a confirmation by the operator would not hurt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D // RDBL = 4+@H|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: in about 2.5 hrs from now, the matches will resume|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 90 minutes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry 2.5 hours|pg|| nt|ritong: argh too bad, paul|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3S|nt|aardv: helas|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is why i try to have people look for themselves|pg|| nt|ritong: meanwhile we have an uncommon auction |pg|| nt|aardv: interesting choice of sequence by Zia|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aardv: intended to show genuine values I suppose, where an immediate jump in spades would be preemptive|pg|| nt|ritong: this time stopping low looks correct|pg|| nt|aardv: redouble shows hearts?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: al roth also loved to learn more from opponents before making a decision|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: very few have that talent|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yes, as mentioned RDBL = 4+@H|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ritong: i would guess that paul's interpretation is closer to the truth|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ritong: immediate jump would be preemptive, that is|pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: but zia also had option of 1@S intending to then show @D|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: with DBL focusing on majors, probably doesn't want to do that but even 1@S then 2@S = values since you say jump to 2@S probably weak|pg|| nt|ahollan1: well it is weak over STRONG RDBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure if that should still apply over RDBL = @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: had not thought of that before|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: whoa 28 in other room auction 1@H-DBL-all pass|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S87HAT8432D983CK6,SKJ632H76DKQT6C85,SAT4HQ9DAJ54CT743,SQ95HKJ5D72CAQJ92|sv|b|nt|medwards: Hard way to earn five IMPs|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQJHQ8DKJ9CAKT952,SAK5HAT62D7432CQ8,ST984HKJ954DCJ643,S7632H73DAQT865C7|sv|o|mb|3D|nt|aardv: North probably not thrilled by that|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ritong: i have trouble finding the correct adjective for this double|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: "unadequate", maybe|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H-4@S makes more sense than 2N-4@S|pg|| mb|4C!|an|!h + ???|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 28 nickell down in both rooms lose 5 imsp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: imps|pg|| nt|aardv: 3NT looks unbeatable|pg|| mb|4H!|nt|fuquay: Meckstroth just beat it|pg|| nt|ritong: what about 4NT|pg|| nt|aardv: can beat that|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i don't know meckwell agreements here|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|aardv: looks like 4@C for majors, not sure why|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ritong: alert says @hs and another|pg|| nt|aardv: ah|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: i was thinking maybe @C & major before operator posted explanation|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| nt|aardv: great switch|pg|| nt|aardv: does he know to fly ace on a heart lead?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd half vugraph usually closest matches|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so maybe not this match again|pg|| nt|aardv: come to think of it, it might have been easier to force the contract off with diamond leads|pg|| nt|fuquay: S cannot start with a small @H because of entry situation |pg|| nt|fuquay: Diamond lead beats as well|pg|| nt|fuquay: instead of @CQ|pg|| mc|8|nt|aardv: pity, would have been interesting to see the play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other guesses for 4@C: @H & @S om & @H art relay for hand type|pg|| nt|ritong: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|aardv: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Thanks all, we return in 2 hrs and 15 min|pg|| nt|aardv: and goodnight|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both vugraph matches close so maybe repeat in 2nd half|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table finishing 29|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQJHQ8DKJ9CAKT952,SAK5HAT62D7432CQ8,ST984HKJ954DCJ643,S7632H73DAQT865C7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|!h|mb|d|mb|p|an|<3!h|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Vugraphzfd: We will resume in 2 hours time|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|medwards: THX J|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|mc|8|pg||