vg|Dutch final MK BC 't Onstein-Het Witte Huis,4-5,I,1,20,BC 't Onstein,82,Het Witte Huis,85| rs|1NW=,1NW=,2DE+2,3NE+1,7HWx-1,6HW-1,5CN-2,4CN-1,6SE=,6SE=,3NS+2,3NN+2,4SS-1,4SS-1,4SN-1,4SN-1,3HS-2,4SW-1,6CWxx=,6CW=,2DSx-2,4HE=,4SE=,4SW-1,3NN+1,3NN+2,4DS+1,3SW-1,2SE=,4SE-2,,,,,2SS-1,2HW=,3DS=,3HW-1,6DN=,6SS=| pn|Verhees,Brink,v Prooijen,BasDrijver,Ramondt,de Wijs,Westra,Muller|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAJ9H542DQJT3CT94,SK87HAK6DK42CQ762,S632HQT98D97CAK83,SQT54HJ73DA865CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 4 ranges for EW opening 1N [vul] 15-17 [fav] 1st: 9-12 3rd: 9-14 [else] 12-14 |pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: so here 1N would have been 12-14|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C, almost forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 7+hcp 4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=15-17|pg|| nt|ahollan1: de wijs 4th seat opening 1N was 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same lead in other room -- unlucky for north|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAJ9H542DQJT3CT94,SK87HAK6DK42CQ762,S632HQT98D97CAK83,SQT54HJ73DA865CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c4|mc|7|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA532H843D72CQJ52,SJ8HQT62DAKQ65C96,SQT94HK95DT43CAT8,SK76HAJ7DJ98CK743|sv|n|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 9-12 this time|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = invitational stayman|pg|| mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: where drijver's MAX = 12, muller's 12 was minimum|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but the professer did have option to treat east hand as mini-nt|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: 2 - 20 board matches today |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: in case of tie -- win goes to Onstein|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA532H843D72CQJ52,SJ8HQT62DAKQ65C96,SQT94HK95DT43CAT8,SK76HAJ7DJ98CK743|sv|n|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan2: 1@D=11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: tarzan will sometimes bypass 4@S to rebid 1N|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1ST6HT43DA53CJ7432,SAQJ2HA95DKQJ7CQ6,SK9754H72DT8642CT,S83HKQJ86D9CAK985|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: over de wijs' strong 1@C westra jumped to 2@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both east players were able to transfer to @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: brink must do more than just 2@H but not sure about his options|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe 2N?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4@C setting @H but saying nothing about @C? i would have thought @C & @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: assume 4@D retransfer|pg|| mb|5C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: positive that 5@C denies @S control, not sure if 4@S or 4N would have been cue for @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some use 4@S as RKC so 4N becomes the cue|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: westra did lead @C10|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5@D guarantees @S control after 5@C denied one|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 6@D looks dangerous|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 5@D//6@D sounds even more like grand slam try|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Drijver is thinking...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if brink had option to ask for keycards over 5@C via 5N|pg|| nt|ahollan1: btw - this hand is why other room was slow|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Drijver is writing, saw something like 7c ?|pg|| mb|6S|nt|ahollan1: too bad they are getting too high - would have liked to see declarer play in 6@H after @C10 lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: its not Verhees who is thinking, i always wait for the tray to move|pg|| mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|7C|mb|d|mb|7D|mb|p|mb|7H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 7@D offering choice of 7@H, 7N or maybe even reverse transfer back to 6@H|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: as feared brink bidding 5@D & 6@D without the ace just seemed wrong|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what happens if declarer assumes north leading singleton with exactly 2@H? then pull 2 rounds of trump and ruffing finesse available in @C|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1ST6HT43DA53CJ7432,SAQJ2HA95DKQJ7CQ6,SK9754H72DT8642CT,S83HKQJ86D9CAK985|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2S|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=15+unbal or 18+BAL|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@D = 5+@H FG|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|ahollan2: 2 driver treated east hand as mini-nt where muller opened nebulous @D then showed 12-14 so drijver in 1N where tarzan bid & made game|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan2: correction drijver-brink played 2 in 2@D making 4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c8|mc|11|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJT862HKT5DK73CJ7,SQ7543HJ87D52CT92,SA9HQDQ984CAKQ863,SKHA96432DAJT6C54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: no, they just play, camera is here :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H = GF 5+@S [2@S would be 5+@S, 5-7 hcp]|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this time NS gets too high|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S kingleton seems to give declarer a chance|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but need to go all out with discard @S9 on @HK, ruffing finesse in @S AND @DK entry|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think voice also mentioned that but - my hearing not great at 3am|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJT862HKT5DK73CJ7,SQ7543HJ87D52CT92,SA9HQDQ984CAKQ863,SKHA96432DAJT6C54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2H!|mb|d|mb|3H|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=2+@C|pg|| nt|ahollan2: vul jump overcall = intermediate|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3 brink-drijver get to 7@HX|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SJ97H9732DKT8CJ54,SK52HAK85DA953C86,SQ8HJ6DQJ762CT973,SAT643HQT4D4CAKQ2|sv|n|nt|vugraphzed: we are going back to 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: wish i knew EW relay mechanism|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = RELAY, FG |pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think 2@D response covers all minimum openers - so 3@C non-min not sure about any other info being passed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: guessing 4@C = sets slam interest in @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: OR just continuation of relays|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SJ97H9732DKT8CJ54,SK52HAK85DA953C86,SQ8HJ6DQJ762CT973,SAT643HQT4D4CAKQ2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 11-15, 5+@S, not 5+@H|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|ahollan2: 1N = RELAY, FG|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: de wijs asking without telling anything|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@D = exactly 5314|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|ahollan2: 3@S = weak relay not strong enough to ask for controls|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4@D = MAX with 5 controls A=2 K=1|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|an| |mb|p|mb|5H!|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|ahollan2: 4 van prooijen-verhees turn to get to high where westra 4@C down 1 van prooijen in 5@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|nt|ahollan2: 4@H asked location of honours - i think 4N = exactly one top @S|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S53HA4DA9754CAK76,ST86HQJT8752DJ2C9,SKQ2HK9DKQT6CQ854,SAJ974H63D83CJT32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-17|nt|ahollan1: NS 1N=14-16 throughout|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = @H or @S|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Louk told Sjoert 14-17 :)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|vugraphzed: maybe i didnt hear right |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: btw EW convention card says 2@D=good hand 5+@H/@S or 6+@C/@D and that immediate 2@H/@S would be weaker|pg|| pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S53HA4DA9754CAK76,ST86HQJT8752DJ2C9,SKQ2HK9DKQT6CQ854,SAJ974H63D83CJT32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|dA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SA87654H4DKTCAT72,SQJHQ97DAQ8CK9854,SKT3HKT85D762CQJ6,S92HAJ632DJ9543C3|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 11-15, 5+@S, not 5+@H|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 3-fit, 8-10|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: westra's 2@H was also 3-fit, but 6-9|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hmm why cover?|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: how does defense go if @H5 from dummy at trick 1?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: i think drijver needed to shift to @D to guarantee beat|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: but @C sure seems logical choice|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: many saying verhees could make after @C shift -- i'm claiming too tired to see it but there may be other reasons |pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SA87654H4DKTCAT72,SQJHQ97DAQ8CK9854,SKT3HKT85D762CQJ6,S92HAJ632DJ9543C3|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2H!|mb|4H|nt|ahollan2: 2@H = 3-fit, 6-9|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: today there is actually live vugraph at the venue joris van lankveld & wubbo de boer|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|nt|ahollan2: i have been given this link with photos of the event http://www.facebook.com/bridgebond [text in dutch]|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA986HK8D832CAQ86,SJHAQJ9DQ6CKJT753,SKQ7532HT654DKJTC,ST4H732DA9754C942|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: oh set up @H10|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+@C|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: they say it here too, Drijver was mad about his own play|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cT|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA986HK8D832CAQ86,SJHAQJ9DQ6CKJT753,SKQ7532HT654DKJTC,ST4H732DA9754C942|sv|o|mb|2C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@C = 10-14/15 6+@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S42HKQJ974D843CA9,SAJT73HT52DKJT65C,SQ986HA3D7CQJ8753,SK5H86DAQ92CKT642|sv|e|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-14/15, 6+@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = good 6+@H, INV or does verhees bid 4@H?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: van prooijen's decsion to open 2@C borders on highway robbery|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: interesting problem for EW to find 5@D regardless of NS actions|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S42HKQJ974D843CA9,SAJT73HT52DKJT65C,SQ986HA3D7CQJ8753,SK5H86DAQ92CKT642|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|3H|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan2: 5 push board at 6@S making|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAJ43HAQT9DT64C85,SKQ62HDKQCAKQJT63,ST75H86543DJ82C74,S98HKJ72DA9753C92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = penalty |pg|| nt|ahollan1: just kidding|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: what change would drijver need to his hand to bid 2@H?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: uh oh brink cuebidding @D again|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|Cantorm: Good morning Roland, Peter, Al|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Sorry to be late|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hi Martin|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many reminding me that normal in netherlands for 1@H advance to show 0-10|pg|| nt|Cantorm: looks like I'm here in time for some fireworks |pg|| nt|pelu: Hi Martin - almost 2 hours later ;);)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|ahollan1: so drijver needed 5th @H to bid 2@H or more points to bid 2@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks to all for that input|pg|| nt|ahollan1: presumably east has denied @HA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so RKC not completely unreasonable|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i am guessing that 4@D denied @HA but would not bet any of my own money|pg|| nt|pelu: wise, Al;)|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|r|nt|vugraphzed: sorry :)|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and mayube with 2 aces he'd have said more than 1@h first time|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: whoa enter the blue card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does this make after trump lead??|pg|| nt|Cantorm: yes Al, setting @ds up|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahh because @C22|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but nasty especially after the dbl|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and @D 33|pg|| nt|ahollan1: easy|pg|| pc|h3|nt|Cantorm: West's use of Blackwood might have persuaded South that a @h would cash|pg|| nt|ahollan1: still seems like DBL greedy if just 1-trick set|pg|| nt|Cantorm: don't think it's greedy Al, it's about getting the lead to beat it|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but without dbl a @s lead was likely|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if @H cashing won't @S lead also work?|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so if both aces cashing no problem|pg|| nt|fabsayc: works both ways, Peter|pg|| nt|ahollan1: before bidding boxes with bids having scores on back - we knew how to score these contracts in our head|pg|| nt|Cantorm: some of us still do Al|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and he hasn't made it et|pg|| nt|pelu: tell us Martin|pg|| nt|Cantorm: -1 is -400|pg|| nt|ahollan1: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: that the easy caloculating|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 20x6= 120 x 4 = 480 +100 insult 580 plus bonuses 500 & 750 = 1830|pg|| nt|ahollan1: when i first tried to learn the game, acbl gave away cheat sheets with scores |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i still have some from BEFORE change in scoring when making redoubled contract only had "insult" value of 50|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I have an old english score card on the wall here with slam scores but it doesn't include redoubled slams|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.rpbridge.net/2y66.htm|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I have it here for the IMP scale I hasten to add|pg|| nt|Cantorm: So far he has played it well :)|pg|| nt|pelu: sodown 1 is -18 making = +10|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Who is winning the Swedish open trial Roland / Peter?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: martin - your comment reminds me of how eddie kantar always starts description of play in grand slam|pg|| nt|ahollan1: "win trick 1 -- good play"|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Yep. No mistakes so far|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Also a good comment when dummy has a singleton|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.svenskbridge.se/tvl/303470/resultat hem rimstedt boyz in lead but not sure if that include session that just ended|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I imagine West is worried about bad breaks|pg|| nt|Cantorm: after the double|pg|| nt|Cantorm: or even without it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D was 2+@D|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Brink asked about value of 1 di, could it be 11?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: tarzan precision does NOT open all 11|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but verhees-van prooijen 1N=14-16, so this pair opens BAL 11 more often than wijs-muller|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Peter saying @d to A then @s to honour then small @s - but trump then leaves you with 2 losing @ss|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary going thru the sliderule calculation of % difference between hoping for @D3-3 and @C-22 vs playing south for @SA-3rd|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or what martin said|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Sjoert doesnt like to play this hand :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: also @SAx |pg|| nt|ahollan1: AND that line handles bad splits in either/both minors|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i.e. predicting down 1|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Al do this pair only open 1@d with exactly 4=4=3=2 or is 1C strong|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = strong 1@D=11-15, 2+@D|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Cantorm: now has to play for @ds|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Cantorm: or a @s @d squeeze|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s9|mc|12|nt|ahollan1: must have been small @C rather than @Sx|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAJ43HAQT9DT64C85,SKQ62HDKQCAKQJT63,ST75H86543DJ82C74,S98HKJ72DA9753C92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=15+unbal or 18+BAL // 1@S = FG, 4+@H, not 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: have not seen this auction before -- assume 3@C forces muller to cuebid aces|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: but not sure about 4@D|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S954HQJ43DQCAK852,SKQJ2HK96DAT54C63,ST83H8DK97632CJT7,SA76HAT752DJ8CQ94|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: How did he play, Yvonne?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and of course i am being punished for predicting down 1|pg|| nt|ritong: hi everyone hi al|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: yes, he was to fast lol me too|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Hi Henri|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: played smal club for c|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: You just missed a good hand, took about 10 minutes for play to trick 2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D=11-15, 4415 minus 1 card|pg|| nt|ritong: score of that hand is poetic|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: common for DBL of precision 2@D to show BAL 13-15 or strong hand similar to one approach over multi 2@D|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: @SJ suit preference for @h|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Cantorm: or maybe not|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other treatments over precision 2@D DBL = @D DBL = takeout of @C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: west hand fits 2 of those 3 treatments|pg|| nt|Cantorm: @hK then @s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: voice commentary still discussing 6@CXX IF declarer actually played @DK @DQ @SQ @S ruff then @DA wins whenever a) @D 33 b) @D42 with long @D having 3@C|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I'm not unhappy to play the same line as Brink even if it wasn't the best. If only I could always do the same as him|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|mc|6|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S954HQJ43DQCAK852,SKQJ2HK96DAT54C63,ST83H8DK97632CJT7,SA76HAT752DJ8CQ94|sv|o|nt|ahollan2: 9 4@SW-1 van prooijen opened north hand with tarzan precision 2@C - verhees 3@H nat, INV all pass|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=2+|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|an| |mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SK4H74DQ764CQT852,ST9863H5DJT982CK6,SA2HJT9862DK53CAJ,SQJ75HAKQ3DAC9743|sv|n|nt|vugraphzed: director took 2 board, we will play only 18 hands|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: that is good directing I think - this is a trial|pg|| nt|Cantorm: in the Europeans in June they will be penalised for slow play|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 11-15, 5+@H maybe equal or LONGER @S|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: they are joking, iff we play slow they will take another board away|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S would be RELAY, FG 1N = 4+@S NF so responder can PASS with otherwise unbiddable values|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|pelu: impossible result from closed room - and nonsend bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: sorry, this isn't a trial, was thinking of the Swedish event |pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: muller favorable 2N opener would show minors|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry wijs-muller 2N|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and do they not have a muiderberg @s-minor 2 suiter opening|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: tarzan precision uses 2@D as the 3 suiter we just saw, so 2M openers just show that suit|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|s5|nt|Cantorm: might still have been tempted to open it 2@s at the vulnerability|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|Cantorm: I know some who would have been tempted by 3@s :)|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|c2|mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SK4H74DQ764CQT852,ST9863H5DJT982CK6,SA2HJT9862DK53CAJ,SQJ75HAKQ3DAC9743|sv|n|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1st favorable 2@S often 5@s|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan2: 10 6@CW= brink in 6@CXX yes redoubled|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJ52HKQT75D982C83,S643HJ632DA54CKT5,SAK97HADK763CAQJ6,SQT8H984DQJTC9742|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@c = 15+unbal or 17+BAL // 1@D = 0-8 // 1@H = art, 18+|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: THIS is hand i thought had auction 2N-3@D that we saw on 12|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 6-8, BAL|pg|| nt|ritong: surely makes sense|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D RELAY|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ritong: nicely observed|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|pelu: 1128,7Ola Rimstedt - Mikael Rimstedt Harplinge BK278,4Lars Andersson - Tommy Bergdahl Norrorts Bridge361,0Fredrik Nyström - Johan Upmark BK S:t Erik - BK Lavec|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry 2@C=6-8, 4+@H, not 4+@S|pg|| nt|pelu: standing in the swedish OBS-tournament after 91 boards|pg|| nt|ritong: marion is not in the top three anymore|pg|| nt|ritong: pity|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = exact shape|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| nt|pelu: http://www.svenskbridge.se/tvl/303470/resultat hem|pg|| nt|ritong: ty peter|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm hoping i was thinking responder's 2@C = BAL in comp|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: btw i think wijs-muller use this 2@C as 4+@S and van prooijen-verhees decided to change this part of the system|pg|| nt|Cantorm: supermarkets are still closed on Suundays her ein Germany Roland and Peter|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|Cantorm: but luckily for us we live opposite a kiosk (corner shop) open till 21.00 every day|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but then I don't smoke and rarely drink coffee so don't face Peter's problem|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the only thing that closes in usa -- the government|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ432HQ843DAJ3CAJ,SAKJ9765H72D64CT4,STHKDKT852C987632,S8HAJT965DQ97CKQ5|sv|o|nt|Cantorm: and minds Al, and minds|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: frightening but good point martin|pg|| mb|p|nt|Cantorm: and borders?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: :) i surrender|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: tarzan precision uses 1@H-1@S as RELAY, fG and 1@H-1N as 4+@S NF so de wijs was forced to use 2@C as any invite|pg|| mb|3N|mb|d|mb|4C|mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 20 [6@DN=] westra-ramondt in 6@S|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 6@s not nice on @h lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room did not play 16 & 17|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: they are taken away Al, we dont play them either|pg|| nt|ahollan1: remember our table fell way behind with board 10 so TD removed 2 boards from play|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 6@s can make various ways, just not so nice for declarer as can go down on several layouts|pg|| nt|ahollan1: schedule says restart at 20 minutes past the hour|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|dA|mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ432HQ843DAJ3CAJ,SAKJ9765H72D64CT4,STHKDKT852C987632,S8HAJT965DQ97CKQ5|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|2N!|nt|ahollan2: 1@H = 11-15, 5+@H, maybe equal or LONGER @S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@C = some invite nothing about @C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan2: 11 4@HE= verhees in 2@DX after opening precision 2@D to show 4415 minus 1 card|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: oops 10 was 6@CXX [i typed 6@SXX]|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJTHTDQJ74CK87643,S87HJ87DAK852CJT9,SA62HAQ65432D93CQ,SKQ9543HK9DT6CA52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this should be last for this session|pg|| nt|ahollan1: still one 20 board segment to finish the match|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 4@h opening 3rd seat vul anyone?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: de wijs 1N was 9-11|pg|| nt|Cantorm: is often transfer to 4@s by oppo|pg|| nt|ahollan1: brink would be 9-12|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: i was actually ready to describe his mini-nt|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: duh EW mini only 1st seat|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so here EW 1N would be 12-14|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: last hand for now, short break after this for lunch|pg|| mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|nt|ritong: for our newcomers board 16 has been cancelled for time issues|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJTHTDQJ74CK87643,S87HJ87DAK852CJT9,SA62HAQ65432D93CQ,SKQ9543HK9DT6CA52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|3H|an| |mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1N=10-12|pg|| nt|ahollan2: sorry 9-11 [they adjust when playing in ACBL events]|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan2: just announced in other room TD has removed 2 boards from play|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|mc|8|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKT6HA962D732C986,S983HJ543DKQJT5CQ,SAJ74H8DA96CJT543,SQ52HKQT7D84CAK72|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: mini-nt time so 1@C=2+@C|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 7+hcp, 4+@H and as you see can have longer @D|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: jumping to 18 to give other room time to get set us up for some comparisons|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: today there is actually live vugraph at the venue joris van lankveld & wubbo de boer|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i have been given this link with photos of the event http://www.facebook.com/bridgebond [text in dutch]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder how many vugraph players would choose to DBL immediately over 2@H rather than the reopening DBL|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzed: bathroombreak|pg|| nt|ahollan1: have we had any boring hands this set?|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: almost back :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room on 8 now so we will have comparisons |pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKT6HA962D732C986,S983HJ543DKQJT5CQ,SAJ74H8DA96CJT543,SQ52HKQT7D84CAK72|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1ST6HAQ76DJT964C82,SAJ85HT9843DACA53,SKQ93H2DQ853CKT76,S742HKJ5DK72CQJ94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: there is voice commentary for the open room|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: convention cards for the finalists http://www.bridge.nl/nieuws/finale-meesterklasse-viertallen/|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1ST6HAQ76DJT964C82,SAJ85HT9843DACA53,SKQ93H2DQ853CKT76,S742HKJ5DK72CQJ94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|mb|3D|nt|ahollan2: 1@H=11-15, 5+@H maybe equal or LONGER @S|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@D = 3@H, 8-10|pg|| mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|mc|8|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAKT763HA98DJ98C5,S54HKQT7D42CKQ943,SQJH5DAKT75CAJT72,S982HJ6432DQ63C86|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1S!|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@S can sometimes be 3@S|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 3@C denies 3+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both pairs for onstein play a version of tarzan precision|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both pairs for white house play a version of dutch doubleton|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D-2@S = weak so i think 3@S now should be forcing but don't quote me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@C = 5+5+ minors|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe 3@H-3@S helps reach slam?|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: brink may actually be helping NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: probably 3@S even without the DBL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4N now not sure what can be gained by 4@H|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not unreasonable to bid 4@D then RKC ostensibly for @D with play to convert to @S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sA|mc|12|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAKT763HA98DJ98C5,S54HKQT7D42CKQ943,SQJH5DAKT75CAJT72,S982HJ6432DQ63C86|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|an| |mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: we think this is last board of the set open room was VERY slow on 10 so TD removed 2 boards|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: final set of 20 scheduled to begin in 30 min|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|12|pg||