vg|Dutch Final MK BC 't Onstein- Het Witte Huis,1-5,I,1,16,BC 't Onstein,0,Het Witte Huis,0| rs|3NN+1,3NS+2,4SE=,4SE+1,4HSx-2,3HS-1,7SW=,5DNx-1,5SWx=,5SWx=,3NE+1,3NE+2,1NE-1,2SS-1,3NW+4,4HE+3,1NE=,1NN-1,3NE-1,3NE-1,4SE=,4SW=,3HE=,4SS-2,4SE+2,5SW+1,1NE+1,2HW+2,4HS=,4HS=,3NE=,3NW=| pn|Muller,Brink,De Wijs,BasDrijver,Ramondt,Verhees,Westra,v Prooijen|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S85HKQ987DQJCQT87,SQ9HJT4DAT63CJ965,SAK732HADK987CA43,SJT64H6532D542CK2|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+unbal or 18+BAL|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = FG, 4+@H, not 4+@S|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: de wijs will just ask without saying anything about his hand|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = exactly 2524|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: coincidentally in other room van prooijen-verhees just had tarzan precision auction that started 1@C-1@S and ended in 3N when relay revealed no fit|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S85HKQ987DQJCQT87,SQ9HJT4DAT63CJ965,SAK732HADK987CA43,SJT64H6532D542CK2|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQJTHKJT732D93CT8,S73H9864DA4CAKJ62,S952HQ5DKQT5C9753,SAK864HADJ8762CQ4|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = FG RELAY [@C length pure coincidence]|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: verhees' 2@C was artificial invite opposite limited opener|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = min|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: each of the other times i have seen this start opener had 4+@D|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: but i don't know the EW relay methods|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the tarzan precision auction showed exactly 2@S since they use 1@S-2@H to show 3@S, 9-11|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many relayers have mechanism to prevent opener from thinking at this point most via 4@D=EndSignal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure if brink-drijver do that -- it is key to know if 4@S = signoff or mild slam try|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i'm told a) 2@S really did promise @D b) 4@C & 4@S both natural|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: declarer examining best line for when trump 4-2 rather than the friendly 3-3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm having trouble finding line that works if 4-2 trump|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i guess 4-2 trump ok if @D 3-3|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: guess Bas too, he is still thinking|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: ocam would take out his razor and just hope @S 3-3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQJTHKJT732D93CT8,S73H9864DA4CAKJ62,S952HQ5DKQT5C9753,SAK864HADJ8762CQ4|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 11-15, 5+@S, not 5+@H|pg|| nt|ahollan2: both pairs for Onstein play a version of Tarzan Precision|pg|| nt|ahollan2: both pairs for White House play a version of Dutch Doubleton|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: CCs online http://www.bridge.nl/nieuws/finale-meesterklasse-viertallen/|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan2: 2@C says nothing about @C - that is just coincidence 2@C = some invitational hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@D = MAX, 55|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan2: 4@S should deliver exactly 2@S since tarzan precision uses 1@S-2@H to show 3-fit 9-11|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan2: confess that i would not bid 3@D with weak suits - would settle for 2@D|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAJ3HAK743DKT52CQ,SQT95HTDA943CKT75,S764H652D8CAJ9642,SK82HQJ98DQJ76C83|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: ahhhh convinced that south had 2@D he found 2nd round duck in @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i did NOT think of that |pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: spelling correction occam|pg|| mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+, any [opening 1N would have been 9-11] // 1@D = 0-8 // 2@H = nat, NF [1@H rebid = artificial 18+]|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|d5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAJ3HAK743DKT52CQ,SQT95HTDA943CKT75,S764H652D8CAJ9642,SK82HQJ98DQJ76C83|sv|e|nt|ahollan2: but i think EW still get to game|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@H = 3-fit |pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|ahollan2: 2N = non-specific game try|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@H = reject|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|c6|mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ93HJ865DA852CKQ,SQT87652H43DQ3C64,SH97DKJT9764CJ987,SAK4HAKQT2DCAT532|sv|b|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: most of EW opening 2-bids deliver 5 card suit -- this is first time i recall seeing 7|pg|| mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: anyone need translation of this auction?|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: ruff low or high?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: high works when south has all 3 trump - fails when north has all 3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ruff lo needs @HJ falling or no worse than 4-2 |pg|| pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 7@S 4@H @D ruff @CA = 13|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ93HJ865DA852CKQ,SQT87652H43DQ3C64,SH97DKJT9764CJ987,SAK4HAKQT2DCAT532|sv|b|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan2: 4@C = 5+@C and 5+@H/@S or does east DBL?|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan2: on this side of the pond we call that "non-leaping michaels" but i think netherlands says "world convention"|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SKJ3HJ873DJT862C7,SA964HA54DK95C654,S5HKQT962DAQ4CJT2,SQT872HD73CAKQ983|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: full credit to brink for opening 2@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other me did not even think about verhees passing west hand in other room|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 11-15, 5+@H maybe equal or LONGER @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = 5+@S 5+@C|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: van prooijen's 2@H said the same thing|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5H|nt|ahollan1: mentioned in other room ed manfield said "thinking about bidding 5-over-5 ... don't!" http://www.haroldschogger.com/manfield.htm|pg|| mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: BOLS TIps still instructive - and still available in many formats at master point press|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other me thought @H lead won't gain anything in this auction so maybe killer @D not totally double dummy|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: oh but other room east was declarer|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @C lead a killer but very tough from north|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c7|mc|11|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SKJ3HJ873DJT862C7,SA964HA54DK95C654,S5HKQT962DAQ4CJT2,SQT872HD73CAKQ983|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|2H!|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|ahollan2: 2@H = [ghestem] 5+@S 5+@C|pg|| mb|5H|mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ahollan2: ed manfield said "thinking about bidding 5-over-5 ... don't!" http://www.haroldschogger.com/manfield.htm|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but it is easy to understand van prooijen taking out protection against NS vul game|pg|| nt|ahollan2: open room began the set with board 14 they have made the turn so we will start seeing comparisons now|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|ahollan2: on the auction, would it be totally double dummy to select opening lead of top @D instead of @H?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s7|nt|ahollan2: i would think not much future in @H|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|mc|11|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S762HK853DKT6C542,SA84HQJT92DQ5CKJ9,ST953H64D742CAT76,SKQJHA7DAJ983CQ83|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: ho hum just another push|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: EW FOUR ranges for opening 1N vul = 15-17 |pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: other table FIVE boards ahead|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S762HK853DKT6C542,SA84HQJT92DQ5CKJ9,ST953H64D742CAT76,SKQJHA7DAJ983CQ83|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|1S|an| |mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = FG, 4+@H, not 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: van prooijen will just ask without saying anything about his hand|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@D = exactly 3523|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: coincidentally sitting NS wijs-muller just had auction that started 1@C-1@S-1N|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan2: and both times big hand settled for 3N when auction revealed no fit|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJT7652H62DAQ7CAJ,SK84HAT874D953C62,S3HKJ53DKT82CT974,SAQ9HQ9DJ64CKQ853|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p!|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 11-15, 5+@S not 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: pass can be stronger than you expect since 1N response = FG RELAY|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dK|mc|6|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJT7652H62DAQ7CAJ,SK84HAT874D953C62,S3HKJ53DKT82CT974,SAQ9HQ9DJ64CKQ853|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKJ982HT94D632C42,SQ6HA2DAKJT8CKJ95,SAT74HJ73D54CQ873,S53HKQ865DQ97CAT6|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = a) 5+@D b) 4441@C but 1@C = 2+ means brink treating as BAL 18-20??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@H 7+hcp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not 7-10 4@H & 4@S [1@D]|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = nat reverse OR BAL 18-20|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| mc|13|nt|ahollan1: my brink-drijver guru says 2@H = slam interest RELAY // 2N=2@H|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKJ982HT94D632C42,SQ6HA2DAKJT8CKJ95,SAT74HJ73D54CQ873,S53HKQ865DQ97CAT6|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 18+BAL|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = FG, 4+@H, not 4+@S|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@D = exactly 2533 // 3@S = "weak relay" not strong enough to ask for controls|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3N = min|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|ahollan2: 4@D = EndSignal forces 4@H then signoff|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S9853H8632D765CK6,SA64HKQT9D432CJ97,SKQJ2HA54DAT8CQ43,ST7HJ7DKQJ9CAT852|sv|e|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: closed room on final board of the set|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N @C & @D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N by de wijs would be mini at these colours|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: white house plays 1N in both rooms|pg|| nt|ahollan1: mollo would have arranged for both to make|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3 sets of 16 today // tomorrow 2x20|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: if you haven't ever read victor mollo's bridge in the menagerie books -- i strongly suggest you beg/borrow/steal copies to consume|pg|| nt|ahollan1: be honest -- at the table would you duplicate brink's decision to PASS or would you bid [what seemed automatic to me] 2@C|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure if muller's PASS was 0-7/8 or more restricted than that|pg|| nt|ahollan1: e.g. 0-5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: de wijs cashout suggest he isn't expecting muller to have a @D royal|pg|| pc|s2|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S9853H8632D765CK6,SA64HKQT9D432CJ97,SKQJ2HA54DAT8CQ43,ST7HJ7DKQJ9CAT852|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1N = NS: good 14-17 EW: 14-16|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SJ86HQJTDJT4CQ763,SAT93HA984DQ65CJ5,SQ52HK532DA873CT2,SK74H76DK92CAK984|sv|b|nt|ritong: hi everyone:)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+ almost or absolute force|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: as mentioned at start of session some Dutch Doubleton pairs allow 1@C-PASS with 0-4 & 4+@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = multi-purpose usually 0-6, but this time 7-10, 4@H 4@S|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = multipurpse a) weak NT b) @C & @H|pg|| nt|ritong: difficult to foresse a make here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i have old note that says 1@S = ASK, not 4@H & 4@S so that is obviously wrong|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ritong: especially after this lead|pg|| nt|ritong: foresee*|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: they only have 15 min|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: 3.5 boards|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my money is on the clock|pg|| nt|ritong: this hand will take ages|pg|| nt|ritong: not that bas is particularly slow just that the hand is quite complex|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: semifinalist reminds me that 2 weeks ago slow play just resulted in short lunch break |pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: :)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hK|mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SJ86HQJTDJT4CQ763,SAT93HA984DQ65CJ5,SQ52HK532DA873CT2,SK74H76DK92CAK984|sv|b|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1@H alert because some occasions only 3@h|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@C forced 2@D|pg|| mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hK|mc|8|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S76HAJT95D9874CKQ,SAKJ5HK83DQ6CAT32,STH76DAKT3CJ87654,SQ98432HQ42DJ52C9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 2+@C|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: multi-purpose 1@D this time the normal 0-6|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: opening 1N at neither would be 12-14|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: wow|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: did DBL show 4@S or just strong?|pg|| nt|ritong: dunno|pg|| nt|ritong: i tend to guess strong NT zone|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: strong|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Yvonne|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: explaining right now|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ritong: takes a fine play to make|pg|| nt|ritong: hopping @h Q when north plays one|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|ritong: north is known to hold @d AK|pg|| nt|ritong: since bauke passed first with @c KQ and presumably @h A|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ritong: drumroll time|pg|| nt|ritong: i am confident|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|ritong: ecco|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd hand high is a winner :)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|nt|ritong: where is the world going:)|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S76HAJT95D9874CKQ,SAKJ5HK83DQ6CAT32,STH76DAKT3CJ87654,SQ98432HQ42DJ52C9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2C|mb|3H!|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|ahollan2: 3@H = 6+@S, 4-6 hcp [2@H would show 5+@S FG]|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 4 where westra opened 3@D and van prooijen used world convention brink opened west hand 2@S - P - 7@S|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i never even thought about west's inaction|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAKJT3HJ7D54CKJ74,S864H98DA732CAQ86,SQ972HK53DKT98CT2,S5HAQT642DQJ6C953|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: please don't make me answer that henri|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd favorable 1N=9-12|pg|| nt|ritong: likely 3@h invite|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = to play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: except for 2@C & 2@D all suit responses to mini-nt are "to play"|pg|| nt|ritong: identifying four losers|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ritong: okay|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ritong: the classical @c J10 onside possible|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ritong: not today|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ritong: but @c K remains onside|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hT|nt|ritong: so it is a free shot|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAKJT3HJ7D54CKJ74,S864H98DA732CAQ86,SQ972HK53DKT98CT2,S5HAQT642DQJ6C953|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SHAQ83DK9652CKQ43,SKT9753HDQJ43CJ95,S84HJ9764DTCT8762,SAQJ62HKT52DA87CA|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|vugraphzed: last hand for now, we will be bac at 13.15|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: westra-ramondt brutal interference against tarzan precision 1@C|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|ritong: yvonne do we have a break after this segment?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ritong: ah ok thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: yes :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: schedule says restart at 15 past the hour|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i wondered if it was possible to reach slam without interference|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now we know|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| mc|12|nt|ahollan1: i am told restart might be delayed by a little|pg|| nt|ritong: they made it short because of the clock i think|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: see you in 20 min :)|pg|| nt|ritong: all right|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: Just hear that Bauke need to go home, Bart Nab will replace him|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: might be staying for next round|pg|| nt|vugraphzed: will restart now|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SHAQ83DK9652CKQ43,SKT9753HDQJ43CJ95,S84HJ9764DTCT8762,SAQJ62HKT52DA87CA|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan2: 2@H = 5+@S, FG|pg|| mb|4C|nt|ahollan2: 5 brink-drijver also in 5@SX but from west so no killer @D lead available|pg|| mb|d|an| |mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: don't quote me, but i think DBL = short @C|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: is there a way to find this slam even without the NS interference?|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST8654HQ84DT76C98,SJ3HAJ952D983CJ76,S92HK7DKQ42CAQT53,SAKQ7HT63DAJ5CK42|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both pairs for White House play a version of Dutch Doubleton|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: both pairs for Onstein play a version of Tarzan Precision|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s9|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: CCs at http://www.bridge.nl/nieuws/halve-finales-meesterklasse-viertallen/ but there is probably a link for Finals|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|sQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST8654HQ84DT76C98,SJ3HAJ952D983CJ76,S92HK7DKQ42CAQT53,SAKQ7HT63DAJ5CK42|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL // 1@D = 0-8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N again @C & @D|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA7HKQJT653DKCA98,ST932H42DAQJTCKT5,SKQ84H8D76532C742,SJ65HA97D984CQJ63|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: http://www.bridge.nl/nieuws/finale-meesterklasse-viertallen/|pg|| mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 15+unbal or 18+BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 0-5|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with @S marriage i think it would be reasonable for de wijs to PASS showing 6-8 rather than DBL = 0-5|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: for those who don't play pinochle marriage = K + Q in same suit|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA7HKQJT653DKCA98,ST932H42DAQJTCKT5,SKQ84H8D76532C742,SJ65HA97D984CQJ63|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: not sure about 2N - alert suggests it is forcing but i would have expected an artificial 2N to show 3-fit for @S|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST7HQ96DQT953CQ72,SQ53HAJ7DA842CAK4,SJ9842HK54DK7CJ86,SAK6HT832DJ6CT953|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C, almost if not always forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: some Dutch Doubleton pairs allow 1@C-PASS if responder 0-4 with 4+@C|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: DBL usually 4@H since responder can show 5+@H 8+ hcp after the overcall via 2@D|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST7HQ96DQT953CQ72,SQ53HAJ7DA842CAK4,SJ9842HK54DK7CJ86,SAK6HT832DJ6CT953|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|ahollan2: last board of the set ... for this table still 6 to play in other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = 15+unbal or 17+BAL // 2@C = ART FG a) takeout dbl b) [semi]BAL|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@C stayman [maybe some version of puppet stayman]|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|ahollan2: schedule says restart in 1 hour|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ahollan2: 3 sets of 16 today // tomorrow 2x20|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|mc|9|pg||