vg|NZ OPEN TRIAL,Stanza 2,I,17,32,Cornell,-33,Ware,0| rs|3NW=,3NW=,4SE=,3SE=,2HS+2,3NS+1,5HN=,4SEx=,3SW-1,4SWx-2,4HN-2,4HS-1,3NN+1,3NN+1,3HE=,3DS=,2HSx-3,3NW+1,4HW+2,4HW+2,2SS-1,3HW+1,4SN-2,4SN-2,3CN=,3CN+1,3NN+2,3NS+2,4HE-1,4HE-1,3DN=,3DN=| pn|Reid,M Ware,Newell,Tislevoll,M BROWN,BACH,WHIBLEY,CORNELL|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJ862HAJ4DKT7CQ42,SQ3HKQ82DQJ3CA983,ST5HT9763D9842CKT,SAK974H5DA65CJ765|sv|o|mb|2C!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJ862HAJ4DKT7CQ42,SQ3HKQ82DQJ3CA983,ST5HT9763D9842CKT,SAK974H5DA65CJ765|sv|o|nt|BuzzyBee: OK, we can start seeing comparisons with the other table now|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|2/1|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: Game orce from West, 2/1 style|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Only 1 set of boards dealt so boards may be played out of order|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: game force perhaps|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|nick jacob: usually better to play @HJ here|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|nick jacob: when you have majority of defensive assets|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|BuzzyBee: EW should prevail here|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|h8|nt|BuzzyBee: Just a reminder how these trials work|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: The winning team will be selected for China automatically, and choose a 3rd pair from the other team|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|c3|nt|nick jacob: that's what I understood too, Douglas. However, there was some clarification that the final decision is the selectors'|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: The two pairs from this table, and Michael Ware/GeO Tislevoll from the other table were the team who did so well in Lyon|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|nt|ellapatto: I believe the exact words were the winning team "choose, with guidance from the selectors"|pg|| nt|ellapatto: so exactly how much power the winning team has is unclear as of yet|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S5HK832DAT654CKQ2,SAT9HAT976DQ32C85,SJ76HJ54DKJ9CJ763,SKQ8432HQD87CAT94|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S5HK832DAT654CKQ2,SAT9HAT976DQ32C85,SJ76HJ54DKJ9CJ763,SKQ8432HQD87CAT94|sv|n|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|BuzzyBee: The ages of the playes at this table range from 22 (Matt Brown) to Michael Cornell, who first represented NZ in 1972|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S9765HQ9DA3CKQJ76,SAQ8HJ732DK92C532,S42HAKT6DT865CA98,SKJT3H854DQJ74CT4|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|an|Natural <3!H|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: the ever popular transfer responses to 1@C opening|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: South denies 3+ @H support with his bid|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: W has to lead A of dummy's suit to hold this to 9 tricks unlikely, I thimk|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S2H864DAKJ64CAJ54,SKT96H92DT9853C73,SQ4HAKQT3DQ72C962,SAJ8753HJ75DCKQT8|sv|b|nt|BuzzyBee: possible slam here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2S|nt|BuzzyBee: not easy to bid, tho|pg|| mb|3S|nt|vugraphzcr: Diamond Ruff|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|d|nt|nick jacob: cant make on @C lead either|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: quite right|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: Other table crashed as NR about to play that 3NT in 2@H hasn't come back yet|pg|| mb|p|nt|nick jacob: even if @D + @H break|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|nick jacob: well with @CKQ onside you'd survive if the reds broke|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: but whatever, 4@S is coming home|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: oops, he needed to clear A@C then!!|pg|| nt|ellapatto: all good now, matt needed to duck the club|pg|| pc|s2|nt|BuzzyBee: indeed|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|sT|pc|c9|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: did that @C play actually happen?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Yes|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: he played to the 10 and South ducked?|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: sorry, to the 8|pg|| mc|10|nt|BuzzyBee: seems unlikely, it was the setting trick|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: If Whibley had QC then it will have given the contract|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S432HA643DKT9CQ76,SAQ987HJ2D72CAJ42,S5HQ987DAQJ65CKT9,SKJT6HKT5D843C853|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|1H!|mb|d|mb|2D|nt|ellapatto: 1@H=@S or @C and @H|pg|| nt|ellapatto: sounds like 2@D is a good hand for spades?|pg|| mb|3H|nt|BuzzyBee: so they overcall on a flat 7 count with just 4 cards in the suit? Interesting|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|BuzzyBee: Ah well, one day I may learn this game :(|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|vugraphzcr: Whibley: "Which one were you going to treat it as?"|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ellapatto: hahaha|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|dA|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ellapatto: Matt has to watch to keep Michael off the endplay now|pg|| mc|8|nt|BuzzyBee: for a quiet -2|pg|| nt|ellapatto: oh my bad, that's a lie|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4ST92HAT652DQ9CT75,SQJ843HKDK754C943,SK765HQJ987DA6C62,SAH43DJT832CAKQJ8|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4ST92HAT652DQ9CT75,SQJ843HKDK754C943,SK765HQJ987DA6C62,SAH43DJT832CAKQJ8|sv|e|nt|ellapatto: too many big cards|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: yep, Michael C just did have the @C intermedites for that to work|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: did not|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4+!S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|BuzzyBee: no X, no **x|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|BuzzyBee: now only -1|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ellapatto: if he gets hearts right|pg|| pc|h3|nt|BuzzyBee: if he gusses @H|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|nt|BuzzyBee: and a ! position too may be more down|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: @S position|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJTHKQT732DKJCAQ5,SA42HAJ6D9643C743,S87653HDAQT2CKT92,SKQ9H9854D875CJ86|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing good 13+|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = a) 0-9 HCP b) 10+ HCP, 0-2 CTRL [A=2 K=1]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 14-18, NF, 5+suit|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|hJ|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJTHKQT732DKJCAQ5,SA42HAJ6D9643C743,S87653HDAQT2CKT92,SKQ9H9854D875CJ86|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|BuzzyBee: looks like 3NT is the place to play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: +16 on 4@Sx Making where 5@H was played at the other table|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: IMP to Cornell|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Soz|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: if A@H cashed|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzcr: Bd 23 3NT +1|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SQ3HJ94DAKJT64C65,SA862HAKQTD75CT92,SKT97H82DQ98CAQ73,SJ54H7653D32CKJ84|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: newell has gone very very low with his hand|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i understand hating @Hxx but would have thought worth 4@D over 3@H|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but both 3@H and 4@D seem to be down 1 so what do i know|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe not|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: @S suit frozen|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: and @C layout very declarer friendly|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so i'm back to bidding 4@D|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: is that a winkle?|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SQ3HJ94DAKJT64C65,SA862HAKQTD75CT92,SKT97H82DQ98CAQ73,SJ54H7653D32CKJ84|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|vugraphzcr: No sorry|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: there will be tears before bedtime if N bids any more|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: wd|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: double part score to ware?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Not seeming to work. I'll try correct it before the end|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c2|nt|BuzzyBee: You can check scores here http://www.tournaments.nzbridgeclub.org/resultslistbyheadevent.asp?umbid=265|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S43HQJT96DKTCT987,SAKQ7HAK42D872CA5,SJT96H83DQ43CQ643,S852H75DAJ965CKJ2|sv|e|mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 2-8 hcp, 4+@S & 4+@C/@D aggressive style [often 4-4 nvul]|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: run via 2@H or RDBL??|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: north did have some options over the balancing DBL but chose PASS = "no clear action"|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think one of the options for north was RDBL = 4+@C, usually not 3@H|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: how is 3@CX vs 2@HX? beats me|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: basically i think NS doomed after the opening bid|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: getting off lightly looks like|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe they can get back to avg if reid bids 2@S i just don't have enough experience seeing their toy in action|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s7|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: if 2@H down only 3 then small gain i was thinking 3@CX -800 and had not analyzed 2@HX closely enough|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S43HQJT96DKTCT987,SAKQ7HAK42D872CA5,SJT96H83DQ43CQ643,S852H75DAJ965CKJ2|sv|e|nt|ellapatto: they're not running scores though so only after the stanza|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: The trials for the Mixed Team is going on at the same time; the Women and Seniors have been selected already|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|BuzzyBee: Not sure I really like these ultra weak openings with just 5 cards|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ellapatto: 3rd seat fav, you want a heart lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Worked well at the other table|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ellapatto: don't see much of a problem going for 500 when they make a cold game|pg|| pc|h8|nt|vugraphzcr: Andi's at the other table. Soz Ella|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Jeremy|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: as they say, it takes more than one swallow to make a summer. I think it will cost more than it gains'|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: :'(|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: I have on my end|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJT654H42DK65CJ74,SHAK8653DAQJ973CQ,SAQ82HQT7D4CKT986,SK973HJ9DT82CA532|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: if gain 3 i apologize to reid-newell|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|KiwiBridge: defence slipped by setting up the @S pitch|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thx gary i thought 800 was in the picture but so used to waffling in an election year|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i bet al roth would vote for 3@D-3@H rather than 3@D-3N|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: looking just at EW cards - do you want to be in 6@D?|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: over 3N why didn't west bid 4@D? don't ask me, i thought it was automatic|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and i DO want to be in 6@D just looking at EW cards|pg|| mc|12|nt|KiwiBridge: or 6@H for that matter :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJT654H42DK65CJ74,SHAK8653DAQJ973CQ,SAQ82HQT7D4CKT986,SK973HJ9DT82CA532|sv|b|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: This is a fun hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: lots of scope here|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: 6@D?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|BuzzyBee: hard to identify that all cards are working|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|BuzzyBee: Nice hand for a bidding challenge how to reach 6@D?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ellapatto: good technique, beer preservation wise|pg|| mc|12|nt|BuzzyBee: Lol Ella|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SQT9652HK8DT63CT4,SJ3HJT764D975CAK6,SA84HAQDQ82CQJ752,SK7H9532DAKJ4C983|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: nah 6@D better imp contract|pg|| nt|ahollan1: without peeking at NS cards|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 2-8 hcp, 5+suit, aggressive style|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: in the encyclopedia of bridge for "duplication of values" the entry says see NS @H holding|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: 25 [2@HSX-3] bach in 3N after brown opened 3rd seat 2@H|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SQT9652HK8DT63CT4,SJ3HJT764D975CAK6,SA84HAQDQ82CQJ752,SK7H9532DAKJ4C983|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: That was a neat line of Ash's on the previous hand effectively loser on a loser play|pg|| nt|ellapatto: nice lead by Whibley|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: but still making 3@H|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ellapatto: yep but would be 4 on any other lead except A@S club|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: he'll get this right, I think|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SKQJ852HJ7DQ4CK32,ST63HT96DK62CAJT6,SA4HQ8DAJ9875C985,S97HAK5432DT3CQ74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 25 3N made with overtrick so 4 imp gain to newell-reids toy and my apology [ignoring the fact that defense could score 800 for 5 imp loss]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = unbal, not 4+@H/@S a) 6+@D b) 4+@D & @C [maybe longer @C] [1/2] (w/dist 8)9-13 hcp [3/4] 9-15|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = nat, forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i do not think PASS by newell = forcing|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: only salvation re: 4@S -- 3@S also beatable|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: before 2nd @H @Cx was ok but after @HAK needed to switch to @CQ|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: surely Q@C looking at dummy|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good example of why some pairs have adopted suit preference signal at trick 1|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: i expected trick 2 shift OR @CQ|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: as gary said -- dummy holding seems to scream @CQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: is there a holding where geo hoped for a declarer misguess??|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SKQJ852HJ7DQ4CK32,ST63HT96DK62CAJT6,SA4HQ8DAJ9875C985,S97HAK5432DT3CQ74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|BuzzyBee: Ware now lead by 36|pg|| mb|d!|an|!H or !S&!C|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: refer to EW Suppemental Notes [attached to WBF CC] for explanation of Suction|pg|| mb|2S|nt|BuzzyBee: It would be interesting to do a statistical analysis on the benefit of the dbl as a Suction bid as opposed to take out|pg|| mb|p|nt|ellapatto: 2@H shows spades|pg|| nt|ahollan2: in the 2017 BB EW had to jump through a lot of hoops to play that convention over natural 1@C/1@D openers|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i believe the running score is result of operator who opened the session not knowing the real score|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: I guess that single suiter + the appropriate 2-suiter may just beat out all 3 other suits|pg|| mb|4S|nt|ahollan2: then instead of showing the leading team as + and trailing team 0 we began segment 2 with 0 vs -33|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|nt|ahollan2: one more session today and tomorrow another 3x16|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Vugraph is off by 2 imp. +2 to ware|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: We have a very short break scheduled after this set, so dont run away|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| mc|8|nt|BuzzyBee: flat board, tho there were opportunties for def to go wrong|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Must surely continue @C - his p played the 4@C, and he can see the 2 and 3|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Restart is at 3:30. |pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: has Ash dozed off, operator?|pg|| nt|ellapatto: no, there was a claim made|pg|| nt|ellapatto: they're scoring up|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: OK, thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Scoring corrections entered|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3ST5HT8DK65CQJT953,SQJ76H5432DJT7CAK,SAK94HAJ76D83C874,S832HKQ9DAQ942C62|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14 // 2@S = ART, a) @C & @D, maybe 3-suit b) WK 5+@C/@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = prefer @C or no pref|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: stupido [meaning me] 28 i was defending 3@S, not 4@S|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in that case @Cx rather than @CQ is just fine gains beat sometimes when declarer misguesses|pg|| nt|ahollan1: don't need THREE @C tricks against 4@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 27 [2@SS-1] bach making 3@H west - maybe with overtrick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yes 3@H+170 3 imps to cornell|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|KiwiBridge: 20 was the one that has made this set close|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3ST5HT8DK65CQJT953,SQJ76H5432DJT7CAK,SAK94HAJ76D83C874,S832HKQ9DAQ942C62|sv|b|mb|1C|an|2+|nt|BuzzyBee: My feeling is that EW paid the price for opening 2@S instead of 1@S here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: even if their range is 7-11 it looks a bit good to me|pg|| nt|ellapatto: They do play 8-11 but this is definitely not the hand expected for a first seat favourable 2@S opening|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: Range was 8-11|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ellapatto: I imagine W had a very different opinion of Cornell's hand's worth|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: and was probably not slow in saying so :)|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Apologies, incidentally, for the odd way in which the running score has been shown|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Ware now leading by 46 IMPs|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: sorry, 40 IMPs|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzcr: Apologies. Result is Making 4|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Apparently only 1 set of boards in play, so we may jump backwards and forwards if one table is much slower than the other|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Thanks operator|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SJHKQ97DKT73CAJ85,SK4HAJ863D952CKT4,SAQT86H4DAJ84CQ76,S97532HT52DQ6C932|sv|o|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: one more session today and tomorrow another 3x16|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing good 13+|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = FG, 10+ HCP, 3+ CNTRL [A=2, K=1], 4+@S|pg|| mb|1S!|nt|ahollan1: now reid will RELAY asking for more info without telling anything|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+@S 4+@D|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 5+@S 4@D, 0/1@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@D = exactly 5143|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: now what? 3N very reasonable|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D asking for controls can get the auction too high|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: we are very fortunate to have Al who loves systems :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H ....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@S might be a weak relay saying -- not strong enough to ask for controls|pg|| nt|ahollan1: without thinking about a lot of hands 3N seems right |pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ok 3@S = weak relay|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3N = min|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so north declares 3N instead of south|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for those who think that relayers are drones -- there comes a point where science gives way to artistry |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the ASKER must envision possible hands for TELLER, how they will play AND what responses can get the pair into trouble if continue relays|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: the hands where all of the information given makes decision making clear are infrequent - but usually worthy of print|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is as close as i come to proselytizing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some score corrections have been entered for closed room which just finished and closed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next set supposed to being in 30 min|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: supposed to BEGIN ...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wish i could blame autocorrect on that typo|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: declarer might get @D right because he doesn't want east on lead|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: avoidance plays can be wonderful things|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SJHKQ97DKT73CAJ85,SK4HAJ863D952CKT4,SAQT86H4DAJ84CQ76,S97532HT52DQ6C932|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|BuzzyBee: looks like 3NT NS|pg|| mb|d|an|This may be suction but wasnot alerted|mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|BuzzyBee: an interesting dbl from Ash as West|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: However, what do I know?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ellapatto: Suction|pg|| nt|ellapatto: Hearts or spades and clubs|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: OK thanks Ella|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: So what does one do with an old-fashioned take out double?|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|ellapatto: It depends on what sort of hand, they can show a 4 card suit or if they're substantially strong enough they can cue bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: thanks|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ellapatto: (1@D) 1(S) is clubs or the majors|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: For the uninitiated, Suction shows the suit above or two above that of the suit bid|pg|| nt|ellapatto: so I guess that would be a very common option with a textbook "takeout double"|pg|| pc|h6|nt|BuzzyBee: It is widely used ober a NT opening or strong club, but less common over natural 1@C or 1@D|pg|| pc|h4|nt|BuzzyBee: I think in fact that it would be a "Brown Sticker" or HUM method|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|BuzzyBee: Going to make 10 or 11 tricks, I guess|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ellapatto: I guess they had a pre-alert conversation and Matt and Michael are very familiar with the suction over 1@C 1@D, might explain the no alert|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|ellapatto: but I'm pretty sure it applies here in spite of no double|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|ellapatto: no alert**|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1ST753HT8DAK54CAQ5,SAJH975DQ7CKJ9732,SK862H632DT86CT84,SQ94HAKQJ4DJ932C6|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd unfavorable 1N = 13-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: north hand terribe opposite any range|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: i think EW play that 2@H is more encouraging than 2@D to show one major|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: assuming same agreements in balancing seat as in direct|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: didn't want the @S pitch|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1ST753HT8DAK54CAQ5,SAJH975DQ7CKJ9732,SK862H632DT86CT84,SQ94HAKQJ4DJ932C6|sv|n|nt|BuzzyBee: A nice early spring day here in Orewa, just north of Auckland|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C!|nt|BuzzyBee: The North South pair here are our rapidly rising young stars|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|BuzzyBee: East West much longer established|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: The Ware team took an early lead in the first Stanza by 33 IMPs|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: hilarious to show running score as 0 vs -33|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: Here South must be careful to set up @S trick before allowing E a pitch on J@D|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|BuzzyBee: well done|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|ellapatto: I believe NS play almost exclusively suit preference signals|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ellapatto: A very useful tool on this hand|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|BuzzyBee: Thanks Ella and I endorse that count is useful in far fewer cases|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SA87HAQT5DQ642CA4,SJ542HK986DJCKT73,S63HJ32DKT973CJ96,SKQT9H74DA85CQ852|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@S anyone?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i didn't think so|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: i just got reminder from the electronic big brother that next set starts in 15|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but it did NOT mention when i get to fix dinner [19:15 here or 7:15 pm for the 24 hour clock challenged]|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzcu: Thanks everyone, restarting in about 15 mins from now|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SA87HAQT5DQ642CA4,SJ542HK986DJCKT73,S63HJ32DKT973CJ96,SKQT9H74DA85CQ852|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: As in Stanza 1, eher we start with Boards 31 and 32 whereas they start on 17 and a8 in the other room|pg|| mb|2N!|an|OGUST 5566|nt|BuzzyBee: pardon the typos - but this means no comparisons for a little while|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|an|5 weak|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: an ultra weak 2@D|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BuzzyBee: not just weak, positively emaciated|pg|| nt|vugraphzcr: I've seen worse|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: there speaks the voice of experience means "I've done worse"|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|BuzzyBee: should just squeak home here|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|BuzzyBee: you can send me private comments which I can relay to the table - no insults, please|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|c5|mc|9|nt|BuzzyBee: wd|pg|| pg||