vg|BBO1-2018WBS,M-SW4,I,11,20,NOLAND,0,ANNA,0| rs|1NS+2,3HS=,3CN-1,2SE+2,3NS=,2DS+1,3NN-1,4DS-1,2CE+1,3NW=,2NW-1,2DN-2,2HN-3,4NE+2,3NE-3,3CE=,2HE+2,3DSx=,4HW-2,3NW+1| pn|ZIA,ZACK EFRAI,MICHIELSEN,EFRAIMSSON,ANDERSSON,WELLAND,HERBERT,AUKEN|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SAKTHQJT84DT6CKJ8,SQ963H63DQJ32CQ64,S8754HK75DA985CT7,SJ2HA92DK74CA9532|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SAKTHQJT84DT6CKJ8,SQ963H63DQJ32CQ64,S8754HK75DA985CT7,SJ2HA92DK74CA9532|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|fuquay: I do not know NS system, but it seems unusual to me to introduce @S with N hand since it is relatively weak with @H support|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphc1: running score: http://db.worldbridge.org/Repository/tourn/orlando.18/microSite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1543&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S62HAKDAJ74CK8743,SJ83HQJ72D853CAQ6,ST74HT963DQ62CJT2,SAKQ95H854DKT9C95|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|an|8+ any|mb|p|mb|1N|an|8-10 bal |mb|p|nt|fabsayc: west hand is somewhat below my standard for opening|pg|| mb|2H!|an|Trf !s or !d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: sorry, dont know EW system, we learn as we go|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S62HAKDAJ74CK8743,SJ83HQJ72D853CAQ6,ST74HT963DQ62CJT2,SAKQ95H854DKT9C95|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+@C if BAL can have ANY 5-card suit including (542)2@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: How many people would open W hand?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would playing 1N=10-12|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i wager KnR says west not worth a full 10|pg|| nt|fuquay: 6 points in quacks and 4333 distribution|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s9|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3ST5HAK7DAK7543CJ5,SA42HQT64DQT96C42,SQJ63HJ52DJCAQT76,SK987H983D82CK983|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|fabsayc: pretty normal to open 1NT, avoiding a rebid problem|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: LOL|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| nt|fabsayc: cant help it|pg|| nt|medwards: So Roland two BBO zero|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|cT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3ST5HAK7DAK7543CJ5,SA42HQT64DQT96C42,SQJ63HJ52DJCAQT76,SK987H983D82CK983|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: ahem KnR doesn't even think worth a full EIGHT 7.80 for west hand on 12|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|fuquay: This was conservative on by both N and S |pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: what would you do differently?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|fuquay: N is close to an opener|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: agree -- welland would open|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| nt|fuquay: I was trying to make a stronger statement then "Welland would open" which is not very strong at all :)|pg|| nt|fuquay: than|pg|| nt|dburn: Not unknown for South to open 1NT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: to be honest -- i was wondering if i would have opened north hand with Precision 2@D and did think about south opening 1N [easy to imagine some frequent vugraph players doing ...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that]|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S862HATDQJT65CA94,SJT9HJ753D4CKQ763,S743HK84DAK972CT8,SAKQ5HQ962D83CJ52|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: my batting average with 3rd or 4th best is terrible|pg|| mb|1H|an|10-15|mb|2D|nt|fabsayc: 1@C at this vulnerable is 8-10 or 16+|pg|| mb|3H!|an|weak (5-8)|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S862HATDQJT65CA94,SJT9HJ753D4CKQ763,S743HK84DAK972CT8,SAKQ5HQ962D83CJ52|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: but no real objections to any of the choices -- even after losing game swing|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+@C|pg|| mb|d!|an|4+ cards !H|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@H|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|dburn: 2@d lurking |pg|| mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: hebert going low again -- actually, i prefer david's "lurking"|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAJ65H9832DT53CAT,ST2HKT75DK984C876,SQ93HQJ64DJ72CJ54,SK874HADAQ6CKQ932|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong in this position|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|an|16+ 4+!s NF|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|4!s 5!c|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAJ65H9832DT53CAT,ST2HKT75DK984C876,SQ93HQJ64DJ72CJ54,SK874HADAQ6CKQ932|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|dburn: Should have carried on lurking - might beat 3@h|pg|| mb|1D|an|!H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = @C & @S, unbal|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so strange to be at welland's table and NOT already see comparison when hand begins|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|nt|fuquay: With this lead there looks like timing for 4@D, 3@C, 2@H|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|fuquay: @H A and then duck @C|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|fuquay: it was pointed out that @SQ could beat it now|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| nt|dburn: This may be down anyway|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|nt|dburn: But not now |pg|| pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|nt|fuquay: It took the @SQ play at that point|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|dburn: Not really - a diamond would do|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ94HK943DTCJ875,SAKT5HQ85DK96CT42,S7632HA7DAJ8753CK,S8HJT62DQ42CAQ963|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|hK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ94HK943DTCJ875,SAKT5HQ85DK96CT42,S7632HA7DAJ8753CK,S8HJT62DQ42CAQ963|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|d!|an|!H|nt|ahollan1: we've seen this start already|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: do you agree with 1N?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good time for a snapdragon RDBL - but that has not been invented yet|pg|| nt|fuquay: I certainly don't object to it|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: come to think of it Raptor 1N overcall from north would also find the @S fit|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|dburn: Can’t say I’m all that enthusiastic about 1NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm less enthusiastic than david|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|fuquay: I definitely would not do it vulnerable, there is a case nonvul|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: but understand the compulsion to bid something|pg|| nt|fuquay: Takes some bidding space away from opps|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i had not considered the vulnerability in conjunction with preemption|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJT762HTD8762CT74,SAKQHJ952DKCAJ863,S5HK87643DA3CK952,S9843HAQDQJT954CQ|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Down 1 we think|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: Zia has discard K@h really...|pg|| nt|vugrapho1: yes, missclick on claim|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: back in the dark ages suit too weak and side four card suit for weak two bid|pg|| mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: still applies in some folks thinking|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i would open, just saying|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|hA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJT762HTD8762CT74,SAKQHJ952DKCAJ863,S5HK87643DA3CK952,S9843HAQDQJT954CQ|sv|o|mb|2H!|an|6 !H 10/13|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: swedish unbalanced @D system uses opening 2@H/@S to show 10-13, 6+suit|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: NT is a little trick with a @H lead|pg|| nt|fuquay: tricky|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|fuquay: But easy with this lead (with @HK marked onside)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: if you lead a @S -- do you choose Jack or low?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|fuquay: I think I choose J|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAT742HKQ54DQ96C7,S96H32DA872CAQ965,SKJ85HT976DJT5CKT,SQ3HAJ8DK43CJ8432|sv|n|mb|1N|an|11-16|mb|2C!|an|Ms|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|fabsayc: wait, thats a five card suit, not same ball park|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i was refering to from 4 card suits earlier|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAT742HKQ54DQ96C7,S96H32DA872CAQ965,SKJ85HT976DJT5CKT,SQ3HAJ8DK43CJ8432|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = (5+/4+) @C & @D