vg|BBO5-2018WBS,S-SF6,I,15,28,WOLFSON,124,CHINA EVERTRUST,130| rs|3HE+2,5CE-1,6DE+1,6HE+1,2NN=,1NS=,6SS=,4SN+2,2NE+1,2SN-2,3NE+1,5DW+1,4HE=,5CE-1,3CE-1,4HS=,3NW=,5DE+1,3HN=,3HN+1,4DW=,4DW=,1NE+1,5DW-1,3NE=,3NE-1,2SE+1,2SE=| pn|K WOOLSEY,X SHEN,BRAMLEY,M SHEN,TAO,DAV BERKOW,M SUN,B HAMMAN|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SK2H932DKJT9862CT,ST9765HJ5D754CAQ7,SAQJ8HQ76DAQ3CJ65,S43HAKT84DCK98432|sv|n|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d8|mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SK2H932DKJT9862CT,ST9765HJ5D754CAQ7,SAQJ8HQ76DAQ3CJ65,S43HAKT84DCK98432|sv|n|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|cK|pc|d8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|mc|10|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ98HT2D876CT976,ST7643H763DQJCK42,SK52HJ98DT93CJ853,SAHAKQ54DAK542CAQ|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong, artificial|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: dbl probably 5-7 hcp|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S Michaels @H & @C/@D|pg|| nt|ritong: hey joe:)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ritong: welcome to walt schafer|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: and welcome Henri!|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|vugrapho5: one thing (of many) I find interesting about bridge, is how often you have auctions that you never had before and likely will never have again.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: without peeking -- on this auction what odds do you give that north is 3334 and south 4234|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|ritong: woolsey's psych worked out big time|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: W angry; I think he was pulling for a double from E (but not sure -- in Chinese)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems to me east more justified in being upset that west did not correct to @H|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: but as Joe said - who has seen this auction before? |pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| mc|13|nt|ahollan1: without looking at east hand, is it certain that he is 55 in the reds??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at least some credit to NS for cramming the auction|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: it worked bec of the 3NT bid (what else?) -- after showing some points by W, I was thinking it would make it easier to bid 7|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ98HT2D876CT976,ST7643H763DQJCK42,SK52HJ98DT93CJ853,SAHAKQ54DAK542CAQ|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|mc|13|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SA3HAJ73D962CKJ86,SQ8754HKT5DK7CT53,ST962H42DAT84CAQ4,SKJHQ986DQJ53C972|sv|o|mb|1N|an|10-12|mb|p|mb|2C|an|non-forcing to game Stayman|nt|ahollan1: 3 ranges for NS opening 1N 1st/2nd non-vul 10-12 vul: 14-16 3rd/4th 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = non-forcing stayman [mini 1N-2@D = game force]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S could have been 4@S 4@H, MAX|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with better @S|pg|| mb|p|pc|d3|nt|ritong: 8 toppers good thing when other room will likely be in 1NT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS acbl convention card https://bridgewinners.com/convention-card/print/bart-kit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW cc available at ecatsbridge|pg|| pc|h9|nt|vugrapho5: E asked at the end of the auction is S promised a major; he did|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|mc|8|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SA3HAJ73D962CKJ86,SQ8754HKT5DK7CT53,ST962H42DAT84CAQ4,SKJHQ986DQJ53C972|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SA82HKJ982DQT54CT,ST54HQ643DKCA9765,SKQ9763HADAJ9CJ32,SJHT75D87632CKQ84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho5: possible I misheart -- they were "speaking" without language :)|pg|| mb|1C!|an|strong artificial|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if woolsey opens south hand at different colors|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S!|an|4+ hearts, <4 spades|mb|p|nt|ritong: would we like to be in slam here?|pg|| mb|1N!|an|asking relay|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 18+BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S = FG, 4+@H, not 4+@S can have equal or longer minor|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+@h 4+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|an|asking relay|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|3=5=4=1|nt|ahollan1: bramley just asking without saying anything about his hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D = exactly 3541|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|an|asking relay|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H asks controls A=2 K=1|pg|| mb|3N|an|3 controls|nt|ahollan1: 3N = 3 note: woolsey would NOT count singleton @CK|pg|| mb|p|nt|Schafer: I don't think you want to be in slam, but it makes, and it looks like they are going.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hideous hog: you need to bid the bad slams that make because so many good slams go down|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: this one is not quite bad, though|pg|| nt|ritong: about coinflip|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bramley can find out location of woolsey's AK|pg|| nt|Schafer: Slam is just under 50%. You need the @d finesse and non- 4-0 @s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: actually i think their scan mechanism also locates Queens in suits that are 3+|pg|| nt|Schafer: By the time they find out slam is 50-50 they will have invested so much into the bidding they willGO to slam! :)|pg|| mb|4S!|nt|Schafer: That looks NF|pg|| nt|ahollan1: pretty sure 4@S = nat slam try|pg|| nt|Schafer: I'm totally wrong|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@D would have initiated signoff|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: could be KC in a Mulberry situation (I have no idea really)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: woolsey flip-flops usual mulberry treatment|pg|| nt|Schafer: 4@c would be for SI, 4@d would be for signoff and 4@h/4@s/4NT would be RKC in the 3 suits|pg|| nt|ahollan1: normally mulberry direct bids are specific RKC asks|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C!|nt|ahollan1: but in the relay scheme -- mulberry does not apply 4@C would have initiated scanning location of responder's honors|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: back to modified mulberry woolsey [correctly in my opinion] believes direct bid as coded RKC is too easy to forget and direct bid as natural slam try better for the partnership|pg|| nt|Schafer: The other table missed slam so this will be a nice 13 for WOLFSON|pg|| mb|6S|nt|ahollan1: not sure about 5@C -- maybe 1 keycard??|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugrapho5: Shen thought quite a while before passing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapho5: so Woolsey declares|pg|| nt|Schafer: You don't forget when playing that. I played that in my @C system and we never had one mixup, or close to it. I disagree with Kit there|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: 1st question opponents should ask after long relay -- Who's Lead??|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: woolsey looking for a way to avoid @D finesse|pg|| nt|Schafer: @HQxx and @s 2-2|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: is it possible the entry situation will suggest taking two diamond finesses before drawing all the trumps?|pg|| nt|Schafer: Hard to incorporate that into the @d finesse line though|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: ah, I guess the first diamond will make things clear :)|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: Woolsey sighs and shrugs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next consideration - if @D finesse working -- how many @C does south ruff |pg|| nt|ahollan1: and the transportation issues all help explain why this takes time|pg|| nt|Schafer: If you are going to finesse in @d it looks like: @sA, @D finesse, @sK, @hA, @c ruff, @hK (@C pitch), @d finesse... claim|pg|| nt|Schafer: I don't think you can do better than that.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: [sarcasm] of course best might be -- CLAIM and let opponents unravel the play |pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Schafer: OK, this looks like a slight varient to my line|pg|| nt|Schafer: @C ruff, @D finesse, @sA, @D finesse...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or @S to Ace immediately|pg|| nt|Schafer: Yes|pg|| nt|Schafer: Then if @S are 2-2 you can try to drop the @HQ|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: right -- i am just in loop if @S 31|pg|| nt|Schafer: If not you play @d finesse, @C ruff, @HK, @D|pg|| pc|c4|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: now @HK safe|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Schafer: ??? Hmmm|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|Schafer: I dont get that?|pg|| nt|Schafer: OH|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think i like this combination of chances|pg|| nt|Schafer: He's OK, he has the @D spots|pg|| mc|12|nt|vugrapho5: Wool: good bid Bart|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yeah holding @D109 was key|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SA82HKJ982DQT54CT,ST54HQ643DKCA9765,SKQ9763HADAJ9CJ32,SJHT75D87632CKQ84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA8HATDQ8652CKQ74,SKQ76HK964DA7C652,SJT542H732DJTCT98,S93HQJ85DK943CAJ3|sv|e|mb|1D!|an|2+ diamonds|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = (10)11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1H!|an|spades|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4+@S|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: and almost always promises 13 cards|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N opener for woolsey would have been 10-12|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Schafer: That's one great thing about Precision.... more psyche opportunities|pg|| mb|p|nt|Schafer: North would never Pass at Fav knowing partner is limited to 15 HCP, right? Opps certainly have a game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C ambiguous about relative length in minors and denies 3@S [rdbl]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: actually over the DBL maybe 1@S=3@S|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: aha they use RDBL/1@S do show 3-fit(433) vs 3-fit not (433)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: clever|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA8HATDQ8652CKQ74,SKQ76HK964DA7C652,SJT542H732DJTCT98,S93HQJ85DK943CAJ3|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|mc|6|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK98HKQ75DJ4C8743,SA743HJ3DAK753CQT,SJT652H982D2CK965,SQHAT64DQT986CAJ2|sv|b|mb|1D!|an|3+ diamonds|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 3+@D, at most 15 hcp|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: if this match not close enough for you - seems china about to pick up another imp|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: sorry did not see that 5@D made overtrick|pg|| pc|s5|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: so 1/2 imp :)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|dK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: i am told that at some point jeff rubens and [drat, i forgot the other] did argue for a 1/2 imp score|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: ahhh rubens & roth|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK98HKQ75DJ4C8743,SA743HJ3DAK753CQT,SJT652H982D2CK965,SQHAT64DQT986CAJ2|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3ST87HKQ5DKQ543CT7,S6HJ942DAJT8CJ984,SKQ9542H8D9762CA2,SAJ3HAT763DCKQ653|sv|n|nt|vugrapho5: Woolsey: I found somebody's 5-card suit [with my lead] -- both of theirs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i knew that there were arguments about difference of 10 being push at BAM, but don't remember reading about the 1/2 imp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3 style points for woolsey's comment|pg|| mb|2D!|an|weak in one major|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = weak 2@H or 2@S opener|pg|| mb|d|an|pass or correct to spades|nt|ahollan1: DBL = pass/correct|pg|| nt|ahollan1: how high do you go with west hand?|pg|| nt|Schafer: 4@h looks right to me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: me too|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unless west has some way and wants to show @D values|pg|| nt|Schafer: Looks like a 4@h bid. Not a Q-bid hand|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Schafer: 3@d would be natural, NF, in my world|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: hey kids -- lets make this auction REALLY confusing|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Schafer: No one knows what anybody has.... so they're all even|pg|| nt|Schafer: Somehow.... all roads lead to Rome, in this case, 4@h|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: how bad is 4@SX|pg|| nt|Schafer: Bart's 3@h was an "I like my hand" 3@s bid vs 3@s being more competitive|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: anyone care to discuss where berkowitz-hamman went wrong?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|nt|Schafer: 4@c = @C. The only weird bid was 3@d|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|mc|10|nt|Schafer: In the other rooom, I would bid 4@h with West also|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3ST87HKQ5DKQ543CT7,S6HJ942DAJT8CJ984,SKQ9542H8D9762CA2,SAJ3HAT763DCKQ653|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQ6HKT953DQ974CA6,SKT9HQ8DKJ653C872,SA852HAJ764D8C954,SJ743H2DAT2CKQJT3|sv|e|nt|Schafer: Hamman obviously (probably) thought 4@d was "Pass or Correct" for a Minor|pg|| mb|2C|an|6+ clubs or 5 w/ a 4-cd major|nt|Schafer: Both West's tried to have a disaster with cute @D bids, one succeeded|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-15, a) 6+@C b) 5@C 4@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS 2@C opener promises 6+@C|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure -- do Finals for Seniors & Women start today or tomorrow?|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: tomorrow; they have the evening off|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: thx Joe|pg|| nt|Schafer: NS can get 2 ruffs for -1 here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: open still playing 4-segment matches only the finals 6x14|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|Schafer: Let's see if NS get theor Suit Pref right so Bramley can underlead the @hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d7|nt|Schafer: They should get it right|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: moot point after missing game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: system win for EW|pg|| nt|Schafer: Setting 3@c vs it making is not "moot"|pg|| nt|Schafer: Esp. in a close match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: true 3 imp difference|pg|| nt|Schafer: A LOW D! is Suit Pref of r@H|pg|| nt|Schafer: But Kit led @sQ from Qx|pg|| nt|Schafer: So bart thinks a @s is Kit's entry|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|c9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Schafer: He trusted the signal vs the T1 lead|pg|| nt|Schafer: Good Job|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQ6HKT953DQ974CA6,SKT9HQ8DKJ653C872,SA852HAJ764D8C954,SJ743H2DAT2CKQJT3|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SK864HKT83DT64CQ9,S732HAJ72DK3CKJ53,SQ95HQ9654DQC8764,SAJTHDAJ98752CAT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+ diamonds as passed hand|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|Schafer: Looks like an east 13|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: wool asks for a review of the bidding. EW do not understand, so Bramley provides it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other seniors sf thru 23 53-1 set for milner now leads silverman by 37|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Schafer: When they play.... this will be another 2-3 IMPs to China|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Schafer: Well.... maybe not if he keeps ducking tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|Schafer: When declarer decides to win a tricks.... they will take the rest|pg|| nt|Schafer: China is down to WIN 1 IMP right now|pg|| nt|Schafer: Let's see if West wants to win the next trick and claim|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the open spector leads zimmermann 70-17 but they still have 2 more segments to play lavazza +39 over allfrey|pg|| nt|Schafer: Lead a @s BArt!|pg|| nt|Schafer: He'll duck it|pg|| pc|h5|pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|Schafer: OMG|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|nt|Schafer: 1 IMP to WOLFSON|pg|| nt|ahollan1: women's sf baker +57 over baroni -- 4 to play // smith +20 over aperol 3 to play|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SK864HKT83DT64CQ9,S732HAJ72DK3CKJ53,SQ95HQ9654DQC8764,SAJTHDAJ98752CAT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKJTHK8DJ82CKT964,SQ73HA63D973CQ752,S9852HQT9542DA6CA,SA64HJ7DKQT54CJ83|sv|o|nt|Schafer: West apparently thinks there's a BONUS for making your contract exactly|pg|| nt|Schafer: Yes, West, there is. But the bonus goes to your OPPonents|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in high skool we played a game that did punish overtricks i think it was o, hell [or maybe different 4-letter world]|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-15|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i think CC says 11-15|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Schafer: Looks like they need to stop in 2@h here|pg|| mb|p|nt|Schafer: I don't think that will happen though|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N = semi-force|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Schafer: 3@h or 2NT now by Kit?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: very rare for 1N to have 3@H so raise should be 2-fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|vugrapho5: same auction in other room -- made a lot of tricks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bramley would rebid 2@H with 4=5=2=2 min, so i also wondered 3@H or 2N|pg|| nt|Schafer: He might drop the @hJ and make it, since he has no entries to finesse|pg|| nt|Schafer: Surely he'll play @DA, @CA, @H|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i must correct something 1N not 3-fit UNLESS BAL limit raise|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Schafer: He could play a @H to the @H8 on the first round|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so maybe 3@H is supposed to deliver 3rd trump|pg|| nt|Schafer: The @HK looks better though becasue you want ti to win and shake your @D|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|Schafer: Kit's @d stopper was marginal but the rest of his hand looked like NY to me|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Schafer: NT not "NY"|pg|| nt|Schafer: No Trump|pg|| nt|Schafer: If the defense plays @S @S @s putting Bart in the dummy.....|pg|| nt|Schafer: He needs to refuse the finesse|pg|| nt|Schafer: Bart may hop @sK here and finesse in @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: btw for those not in the loop Bart = Bramley Kit = Woolsey|pg|| nt|Schafer: Thanks|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Schafer: Bad news for Bart|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|Schafer: He'll take a losing @H finesse now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|nt|Schafer: Yep, I didn't see the 2 winners in dummy|pg|| nt|Schafer: That was his real incentive to hop @sK|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKJTHK8DJ82CKT964,SQ73HA63D973CQ752,S9852HQT9542DA6CA,SA64HJ7DKQT54CJ83|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAJT3HJ432D84C952,SQ2H98DKJT9653CJ6,S954HAQT65DQ7CAQ4,SK876HK7DA2CKT873|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H|nt|Schafer: 3@hx would be bloddy but EW have no way of knowing that|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bid to 3-level with 9-card fit|pg|| mb|4D|nt|Schafer: I don't like preempting with balanced hands, but you often get away with it like here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|Schafer: Shouldn't be anything to the play other than the @d guess|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Schafer: I don't see a reason to go against the "right" play of cashing the @DAK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Schafer: If West thinks South must have a stiff for a 3@h bid they might run the @DJ, that works too|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|Schafer: Are EW the guy that invented the Chineese Water Torture?|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Schafer: Finally..... he's leading trump|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAJT3HJ432D84C952,SQ2H98DKJT9653CJ6,S954HAQT65DQ7CAQ4,SK876HK7DA2CKT873|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SKJT3HT73DTCQJT42,SA654HAQJD96432CA,SQ92HK652DQJ8C983,S87H984DAK75CK765|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: 3 to play|pg|| nt|vugrapho5: and 16 IMPs if our scores here are correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 3rd/4th 1@D=2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: china headed for another pickup|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Schafer: Yep, another 5 or 6 IMPs to China|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is a SemiFinal match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hence "SF6" in the table name|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: winner of the match meets silverman in the 6-segment finals that starts on saturday|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oops winner meets MILNER|pg|| nt|Schafer: A @s switch now holds EW to 2NT|pg|| nt|Schafer: Not an easy 3NT to beat|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|Schafer: Wow|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|Schafer: What a MP play|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: not an easy 5@D to bid not a bad contract for berkowitz-hamman|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just did not make|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D 22 or @HK onside and at least 10 imps to wolfson|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|Schafer: Yes, 5@d was a good spot too|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SKJT3HT73DTCQJT42,SA654HAQJD96432CA,SQ92HK652DQJ8C983,S87H984DAK75CK765|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJ965HT763DQ87C76,S73HQJ98DT94CJ954,SKQ84HK52D5CAQT83,SAT2HA4DAKJ632CK2|sv|o|nt|vugrapho5: 5 minutes on the clock|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: wolfson will need more time than that|pg|| mb|2H|an|short !Ds, 4-4 or 4-3 in Majors|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 10-15, 4415 minus 1 card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the Precision 2@D opener moved to 2@H to accomodate mini-multi 2@D|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Schafer: But there's a cost and it's THIS hand|pg|| nt|Schafer: If you play Precision 2@D and partner bids 2@H, you correct to 2@s with 4315|pg|| nt|Schafer: I guess it doesn't matter when they voercall 3NT :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|Schafer: Good lead|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|Schafer: Should set 3NT now|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: walter - you would not believe how many people argue with me when i say 4=3=1=5 corrects 2@H to 2@S|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: it is such a huge long term winning approach|pg|| nt|Schafer: That's how we played|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Schafer: I didn't realize it was a debate :)|pg|| pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: same here |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Schafer: I got it from Meckwell. I trust them|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same here -- discussion with rodwell circa 1983|pg|| pc|h9|mc|9|nt|vugrapho5: bramley asks about Woolsey's spades and apologizes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no denying that shen-shen have played 2 solid sets today|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJ965HT763DQ87C76,S73HQJ98DT94CJ954,SKQ84HK52D5CAQT83,SAT2HA4DAKJ632CK2|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAKJHK532DT92CA42,S843HAJ864DK84C85,SQTHQT9DJ765CJ963,S97652H7DAQ3CKQT7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|Schafer: Well, this will either be a push or 1 IMP to China. I dont think 2@s can be set|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|mc|9|nt|ahollan1: senior final milner v china evertrust|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAKJHK532DT92CA42,S843HAJ864DK84C85,SQTHQT9DJ765CJ963,S97652H7DAQ3CKQT7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|8|pg||