vg|BBO4-2018WBS,O-QF3,I,1,14,ALLFREY,96,FROGS,51| rs|4HW+1,4HW+1,3HE+1,4HE-1,5CS=,4HS+1,3NN=,3NN=,4HW=,4HW=,5DW-2,4HW=,6DEx=,6DEx=,3SW+2,4SW=,4SW=,5DNx-3,5DW=,4HE+2,5DN+1,3NN=,6CW-2,3NEx+1,5CE-1,2SW+1,6SW=,7SW-1| pn|ROBSON,LORENZINI,ALLFREY,FORRESTER,T BESSIS,PASKE,VOLCKER,JONES|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQ8HT8DJ852CQJT97,SAK6HAQJ92DK3C864,ST7432H76DA96CK32,SJ95HK543DQT74CA5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Cantorm: 2@c Drury it seems|pg|| mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: and 3@c looks like help suit game try|pg|| mb|p|pc|c2|nt|Cantorm: so they reach the normal and routine contract|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Cantorm: same line up this set as last which suggests Allfrey had seating rights as they won it by a margin|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: hoping something good will happen in @ds for an overtrick,but the good will come in @ss|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: if N plays a @s he has to choose betweeen 9 and Q|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 9 and J sorry|pg|| nt|Cantorm: has he led from 10 or Q (or neither)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQ8HT8DJ852CQJT97,SAK6HAQJ92DK3C864,ST7432H76DA96CK32,SJ95HK543DQT74CA5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S5432H43DAJ7C6532,SKJ76HT95DKT965C4,SAQ98HQJ8D842CAJT,STHAK762DQ3CKQ987|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Cantorm: well judged - east hand has only 4 3/4 losers|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Cantorm: nice @h8 by N|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|Cantorm: knows dec wants to ruff @cs so won't take the finesse|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|hT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: really?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S5432H43DAJ7C6532,SKJ76HT95DKT965C4,SAQ98HQJ8D842CAJT,STHAK762DQ3CKQ987|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|hT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAQJ9HQTDK54CKQ62,S76HK962D732CA975,SK5HAJ754DT8CJT83,ST8432H83DAQJ96C4|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: 3NT not so good after that dbl - not good at all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: but 5@c might have play, or 4@h|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 4@h suffers from @c ruff, 5@c has to contend with 4-1 break|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: so superficiall analysis says no game makes|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: will now try to look deeper before the table or a spec proves me wrong|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Against 4@h, after @cA @c ruff @dA @d it might be possible to trump coup west|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but it's rather double dummy|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but not impossible t o find|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I also tend to think 5@c can make|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: Hi all, sorry am a bit late, had some login difficulties|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: 4@ss 3@hs 1@d 3@cs @d ruff are 12 tricks, but 2 aces to lose|pg|| mb|4S!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: Hi Marshall in time for an interesting board|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: so i see|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: v good 17 opposite good 9 but 3N no pay on @d lead, indicated by dbl of transfer|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Cantorm: 4@h and 5@c both look like makes, but neither straightforward|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so credit the bidding|pg|| pc|d8|nt|marlowepi: yes just another advertisement for 1N-3N on balanced hands in range LOL|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but will lose imps as other room made +1 in 4@h|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|cQ|nt|Cantorm: defence to 4@h was not very challenging|pg|| nt|Cantorm: @d lead ducked to K, so drew 3 rounds of trumps and discarded other @d on @ss|pg|| nt|Cantorm: EW at the other table are the young pair Paske and Jones|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|d6|nt|Cantorm: Another young player still in contention is Klukowski|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|marlowepi: Tom Paske was until not long ago the leading light of the English junior team |pg|| nt|marlowepi: this could be cute|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: As I'm reminded Ed Jones is now over 30 |pg|| nt|Cantorm: but still young by my and I guess most of your standards|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAQJ9HQTDK54CKQ62,S76HK962D732CA975,SK5HAJ754DT8CJT83,ST8432H83DAQJ96C4|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ64HQJ85DT97CA87,SKQ953HK64DQ654CJ,SAT2HA3DA83CKT954,S87HT972DKJ2CQ632|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|marlowepi: Due to his perceived resemblance to a well-known English comedian, Ed Jones is also known to members of his circle as "Ken Dodd". I had heard my English bridge friends allude to both names, and had known Ed for several years ....|pg|| nt|marlowepi: before i eventually learned they are one and the same person|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Ken Dodd (the comedian) died recently|pg|| nt|Cantorm: was still performing well into his 80s or possibly 90s|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|marlowepi: He is thankfully survived by his quasi-namesake|pg|| nt|Cantorm: was known for his shows going on for hours beyond scheduled times as he just kept telling jokes and stories|pg|| nt|Cantorm: people missing last buses and trains to get home while rolling about in the aisles laughing|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I could tell you more but you probably want to watch the bridge|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|Cantorm: plus I guess many of the specs for this table are British so know all about him|pg|| nt|marlowepi: slightly sticky proposition here due to the D threat but declarer should get home I think|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|Cantorm: if not you can probably get some of his work on youtube|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|marlowepi: On general grounds N would have preferred to duck the first trick -- consideration of which doubtless played a role in the somewhat lengthy huddle at the first trick. But concers about a D shift supervened. |pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Cantorm: other table now on board 7 - not unusual for this south to be behind|pg|| nt|marlowepi: yes he is very slow as dummy|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|Cantorm: he played 3 Marshall|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|nt|Cantorm: but not saying it's all his fault|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ64HQJ85DT97CA87,SKQ953HK64DQ654CJ,SAT2HA3DA83CKT954,S87HT972DKJ2CQ632|sv|b|nt|stc: E lost to tricks at trick 1|pg|| nt|stc: two tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SKHA853DK543C9842,S532HJ964DAQCAKQJ,SQ9864HQDJT96CT75,SAJT7HKT72D872C63|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aurora: WBFOfficial Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4tMzgak41i-JbxBmYiZSOA|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: EW should reach 4H|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: and make it despite 4-1 trumps|pg|| nt|Cantorm: everything else is quite nice|pg|| mb|p|nt|Cantorm: @hQ and @dK and @s honours split|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Just 8 IMPs in 4 boards. Last set averaged around 8 per board|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|marlowepi: spade lead might have given W more of a challenge, but diamond knave of course normal|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: regretting that @h9 rather than small one now|pg|| nt|Cantorm: or will be shortly|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s6|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|marlowepi: yes with ample entries back to hand a low heart might have been a better idea|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SKHA853DK543C9842,S532HJ964DAQCAKQJ,SQ9864HQDJT96CT75,SAJT7HKT72D872C63|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S952H96DA754CJ863,S7HAKQT43DQ9863CQ,SAQT64HJ752DJCK42,SKJ83H8DKT2CAT975|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugrapho4: the director arrived, the players are delayed|pg|| mb|2S|nt|marlowepi: no doubt he is there to assign a fast-play penalty|pg|| nt|Cantorm: slow play warning Adri?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: 4@d is interesting. Presumably 3@d would have been forcing|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: Director has said they are 2 hands behing. But they are 4+ behind the other table|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|marlowepi: without knowing their methods, I don;t think we can be sure that 3D would be forcing|pg|| nt|Cantorm: new suit at the 3 level? I'd think so|pg|| nt|marlowepi: for some pairs it would not|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I know they were practicing a fair bit on BBO ahead of this event, but whether discussions got to this situation ???|pg|| nt|marlowepi: for some pairs, W would have to X (or cuebid) at second turn before bidding more suits if he wanted to create an ongoing force.|pg|| nt|marlowepi: all a matter of agreements|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|marlowepi: tricky hand to play|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Scores in the other QF matches have all got closer during this set|pg|| nt|marlowepi: easy looking at all the cards, but even presuming that N holds 53 in the black suits there are decisions to make|pg|| nt|marlowepi: reduced to a narrow target now|pg|| nt|Cantorm: well if he goes down I will blame the bidding. 4@h a much better contract|pg|| nt|marlowepi: N can follow to third heart with the jack|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I'd assign 75% blame to West|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|marlowepi: again Lorenzini opts to use a big trump spot on first round|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Cantorm: ace and another will do|pg|| nt|marlowepi: ace and a trump, and l'oie de W sera cuite|pg|| nt|marlowepi: not everyone would have raised to 2S with the S hand, even at the colours, but such bids often have unexpectedly positive effects, such as helping partner count out the shapes around the table (though here the bidding by W was probably enough)|pg|| nt|Cantorm: good to see that Robson has taken the Director's time warning to heart|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|Cantorm: usually I criticise poeple who take ages to take an ace and then ages to tplay next card|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|nt|marlowepi: several specs are noting that Robson did not have to defend as predicted. obviously true, but we stand by our prediction|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but here he had info of @s4 (whatever it told him)|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S952H96DA754CJ863,S7HAKQT43DQ9863CQ,SAQT64HJ752DJCK42,SKJ83H8DKT2CAT975|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAQJ3H9765D5CQJ43,S75H3DAJT4CK87652,SK962HKQJT842D3C9,ST84HADKQ98762CAT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|5H|mb|6D|nt|Cantorm: these are the sort of high level decisions I hate because it's the weakest part of my game|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Cantorm: and the weakest part of my game is really saying something|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|d8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Cantorm: good result for Allfrey at the other table|pg|| mc|12|nt|marlowepi: your last statement could be construed in multiple ways|pg|| nt|Cantorm: matched here|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAQJ3H9765D5CQJ43,S75H3DAJT4CK87652,SK962HKQJT842D3C9,ST84HADKQ98762CAT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|5H|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|aurora: WBFOfficial Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4tMzgak41i-JbxBmYiZSOA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|h2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2ST7HA93DKQ6543CK5,SAQ85HJ2DA87CAQ63,S32HKQ874DJT2C874,SKJ964HT65D9CJT92|sv|o|nt|marlowepi: unfair reflection on your commentary :)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: fair point Marshall - to be less ambiguous it's the weakest part of a far from strong game|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Cantorm: and another swing to Allfrey|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|mc|11|nt|Cantorm: much more of this and I would expect Frogs to concede rather than play the 4th set|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2ST7HA93DKQ6543CK5,SAQ85HJ2DA87CAQ63,S32HKQ874DJT2C874,SKJ964HT65D9CJT92|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S63HATD854CAKQ872,SAQJ97HQ87DA73CJ4,S54HJ42DQJT962CT6,SKT82HK9653DKC953|sv|e|nt|marlowepi: W hand is mighty good for spades, but it is a bit vulgar to jump to 4S, and while it is a gilt-edged strong NT, it does not really lend itself to an upgrade on the first round|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: 2@c weak 2 in @ds or some strong option - I think|pg|| nt|Cantorm: if S can bid 3@d might shut them out|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|Cantorm: though to make 4@s you need to find @hAx in one or other hand and gzuess which |pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Oh no, trump promo kills it|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|sJ|pc|dQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|marlowepi: Simon Cope, the British Open Team NPC back in Bali, predicted that S would respond 3N here. The bookies took a beating on the actual outcome|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|marlowepi: Clearly he preferred to help N with the opening lead he was likely to be making shortly thereafter|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Cantorm: sry, no promo, was looking at something askew|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|CopeyJ: I have lost plenty of money trying to predict Andy's calls before Marshall, so won't be the last time I suspect|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Hi all|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S63HATD854CAKQ872,SAQJ97HQ87DA73CJ4,S54HJ42DQJT962CT6,SKT82HK9653DKC953|sv|e|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAQ432HQJDT8CA872,S5HA97DAKQ762CKQJ,SKJ986H53DJ95C943,ST7HKT8642D43CT65|sv|b|nt|marlowepi: speak of the devil & up he pops|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Hi Simon|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|marlowepi: well not to fret, Simon, at least you will always be able to predict all of my bids :)|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: This has been an interesting set - although not quite as wild as set 2 which was for the adrenaline junkie|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Cantorm: yes less swingy but no less interesting|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: 4@Sx is 800 if they can get their hands on it|pg|| nt|marlowepi: The newest betting proposition being offered is whether or not the other table will have finished the fourth quarter before this room finishes the present set.|pg|| nt|Cantorm: so much action the battery on my laptop is nearly flat|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: for a useful little 3 imps potentially. On this action, though, West will have to guess hearts to make it - but I expect he will play a @H to the king given North's 4@S bid on air ...|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: will play N for short @H if anyone|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|CopeyJ: So this is definitely imps to Allfrey, just a question of how meaningful a swing|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Whilst I would confess to being biased (sorry) I think it should be reiterated that the Allfrey team is four handed - a quite superb effort so far|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: he will rumble trumps and clubs to get as much info as possible|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s9|nt|CopeyJ: I guess - delaying the key decision till the last moment, but I expect Ced to get this right|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|marlowepi: Earlier when I first mentioned Simon the chatspace ran out of room so I did not say that he was the English Open NPC not only in Bali but also in Chennai. Also perhaps in the Market Snodsbury gala flitch, but will have to look that one up|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pc|c8|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAQ432HQJDT8CA872,S5HA97DAKQ762CKQJ,SKJ986H53DJ95C943,ST7HKT8642D43CT65|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA2H83DJ943CAQ643,S98763HQ9742DACK7,S54HAKJ5DKQT865CT,SKQJTHT6D72CJ9852|sv|o|nt|CopeyJ: Didn't take long. Well done to hold the loss to 2 imps|pg|| nt|marlowepi: sick 3N makes|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2C!|nt|CopeyJ: yes lucky result next door - 5@D a much better contract|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: even 6@D isn't too bad|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|nt|CopeyJ: Interestingly, Paske chose to bury the spades on the W hand just overcalling 1@H - operation was successful but partner's spades were too good!|pg|| nt|marlowepi: 6D is interesting to play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: Allfrey presumably had the choice whether to X, seeking penalties, or whether to bid one of the enemy suit to show a good hand with @d|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I might have chosen the latter - as the bounce in @S is not a huge shock|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: Ben Green, coach of that same English Open team, reports that Tor Helness went down in 6D|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: and now has to guess a little - but has guessed well|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Robson's glass is always half full - he will be trying to construct hands for Allfrey in case 6@D might be a good proposition|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: Indeed it's not a terrible spot here, but probably goes down on the normal @S lead|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|sommer: It "only" needs ClKx and stiff DA in W😁|pg|| nt|Cantorm: it makes DD |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|Cantorm: or @hs 33 Q onside|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: yes sure, but that really is DD (win @S, A@C and ruff a @C, AK@H, ruff a third @H and play @CQ)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| nt|marlowepi: after this revealing auction and spade king lead, N might well have brought home the slam|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: yes but after the 2@C overcall if @h are 3-3 then I will need to go to synagogue on saturday and church on sunday|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|marlowepi: mosque on friday|pg|| nt|sommer: 5%??|pg|| nt|Cantorm: ore likel to finesse @cs for @s ditch|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|d8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Yes sorry missed that one, Marshall, glad you are there to keep me on the... erm... straight and narrow?|pg|| mc|12|nt|marlowepi: my specialty|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: so you keep telling me|pg|| nt|ritong: hi folks|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Henri @h|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: come to join us for some late fireworks?|pg|| nt|marlowepi: sois le bienvenu, notre cher doyen|pg|| nt|ritong: gandalf, you too are allowed to send little @hs to me:)|pg|| nt|vugrapho4: east calling the director|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Do we know why, Adri?|pg|| nt|vugrapho4: but he just said hello, everything's fine :$|pg|| nt|marlowepi: I have been trying but the website is censoring them|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA2H83DJ943CAQ643,S98763HQ9742DACK7,S54HAKJ5DKQT865CT,SKQJTHT6D72CJ9852|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hT|mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S9876HAQJT95D87C7,SKT43HK864DAQ3CAK,SAQJ2H7DJ9654CT83,S5H32DKT2CQJ96542|sv|n|nt|CopeyJ: So this was an action jackson next door|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: 3NT got doubled by N, and that needed a @S lead to beat it|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|CopeyJ: After the @HQ, declarer could have made +2, but settled for plus one after ducking the first @H|pg|| nt|ritong: south considered for like three minutes before leading|pg|| nt|marlowepi: EW compiling a set in the other room that you wouldn't mind bringing home to Mother|pg|| mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: yes - knew it was a big decision|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: Yes Paske and Jones have had a pretty good time|pg|| mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: and this will not do their chances any harm|pg|| nt|marlowepi: cruel hand for EW|pg|| nt|Cantorm: this has an obvious flaw|pg|| nt|ritong: yes it has|pg|| nt|Cantorm: but then both tables made 6@dX off two cashing tricks|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Cantorm: claim -1 ?|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: cant claim -1|pg|| nt|Cantorm: by declarer|pg|| nt|marlowepi: 2N opening is a notorious slam-killer, but this time it was fatal in the slam zone for a less frequently encountered reason|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: might be some sick @H/@S squeeze if they dont cash for example|pg|| nt|ritong: 4@c was not mandatory|pg|| nt|ritong: i guess|pg|| nt|marlowepi: 3S wouldnt have made either, Henri :)|pg|| nt|ritong: probably the context incitated to optimism|pg|| nt|marlowepi: yes it can be extremely frustrating to have the sort of set EW have been having here|pg|| nt|Cantorm: lead after this will be 68 which is certainly close to Frogs opting for an early night. Probably not quite close enough|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: the last board may have some interest too, martin :)|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Given how the IMPs have flowed in this match|pg|| nt|marlowepi: it ain't over till the fat frog croaks|pg|| nt|Cantorm: Haven't looked. And yo know Roland doesn't like us to spoil the surprises for the specs|pg|| nt|ritong: is there something like a fat frog?:)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|CopeyJ: I have been careful not to - just saying the set ain't over yet :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S9876HAQJT95D87C7,SKT43HK864DAQ3CAK,SAQJ2H7DJ9654CT83,S5H32DKT2CQJ96542|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|3N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: danger|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SK432HKQ87DKJCT93,SQT965HA94D8CA865,SJ7HT653DAQ942C72,SA8HJ2DT7653CKQJ4|sv|b|nt|Cantorm: a toad Henri (crapaud)|pg|| nt|ritong: true|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: thats 13.. So the gap is 69 with two boards to score in the third stanza of four|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|marlowepi: interesting that croak means die, and toad means death in german (tod). maybe not a great choice of team name|pg|| mb|2N|mb|3C|nt|Cantorm: and in English 'on your tod' = alone|pg|| nt|marlowepi: 2N some limity raise ?|pg|| nt|Cantorm: et ou est le rosbif chez team Frogs|pg|| nt|ritong: be careful with the roastbeef thing, martin|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I would rather bid 3@D if that were a fit showing jump - showing good @D suit and @h support|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I like 'limity' Marshall - I might use that for a kind of weakish limit bid|pg|| nt|marlowepi: yes especially when our major is hearts|pg|| nt|ritong: since in french it is the colloquial word for brit|pg|| nt|Cantorm: what about 2@d fit nonjump from passed hand. A tad weak for 3@d|pg|| nt|aardv: we rosbifs prefer to be called Britons. at least i do.|pg|| nt|ritong: hello paul|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: 2@D would be natural for me - why can't I have KQJTXX and a side king for example|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|nt|Cantorm: not to be confused with Bretons who are Frogs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: no harm intended, just telling martin:)|pg|| nt|aardv: et pourquoi pas|pg|| pc|hK|nt|Cantorm: yes, was deliberate Henri|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I am afraid this doesn't look to have any play at all :(|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|marlowepi: we peg your bardon, Paul|pg|| pc|c5|nt|CopeyJ: not good for those who want to see the match tighten up|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Cantorm: better then the French slang for Germans|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, that one is really ugly|pg|| nt|Cantorm: which is almost the same as a famous brand of white goods (washing machines etc)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Cantorm: the Russian word for German actually / literally means madman|pg|| nt|marlowepi: anyway, back at the 5C ranch ....|pg|| nt|aardv: Boche? (or Bosch.) not especially rude is it?|pg|| nt|ritong: sort of friendly, even|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|Cantorm: dependshow many old boys comics with stories of WW2 you grew up with|pg|| nt|Cantorm: and how many mad old French women you have heard spit it out |pg|| nt|CopeyJ: so gap wil be 75 with board 14 left.|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 15 left Simon|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|nt|marlowepi: with Board 14v left in this set|pg|| nt|ritong: board number 14|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SK432HKQ87DKJCT93,SQT965HA94D8CA865,SJ7HT653DAQ942C72,SA8HJ2DT7653CKQJ4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d9|mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S975H643DQJT532CJ,SAKQ864HAJ9DA874C,STHKQT5DK96CT8764,SJ32H872DCAKQ9532|sv|o|nt|CopeyJ: yes - i meant in this set Martin lol|pg|| nt|aardv: i thought the russian word for german meant "mute". a bit like "barbarian"|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: and a bit of a firecracker here|pg|| nt|marlowepi: simon brought his battallion of translators along|pg|| mb|1C|nt|Cantorm: ah ok pedantsRus|pg|| nt|aardv: meanwhile|pg|| nt|aardv: would you open 3NT with the east cards, if you played gambling 3NT?|pg|| nt|Cantorm: yes Paul it comes from the barbarian type tag of the old (real tribe) hun days|pg|| mb|1D|nt|CopeyJ: Paske/Jones bid the grand slam in @S next door - we have all been in worse, but not a wonderful contract. |pg|| nt|ritong: staying under 7@s looks difficult|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|Cantorm: so I guess it depends a bit on your translator|pg|| nt|ritong: yes i would paul|pg|| mb|d|nt|marlowepi: we have all been in worse grand slams|pg|| nt|aardv: there's an argument for not doing it with 3307, but it would keep you out of trouble on this deal|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: In answer to your Q, Paul, I can't stand the 3N as a solid minor so try not to find myself in that position but guess I would!|pg|| mb|p|nt|CopeyJ: N/S getting stuck in as they tend to|pg|| mb|p|mb|r|nt|CopeyJ: if W were 6-3-3-1 with the same honour distribution then grand is enormous|pg|| nt|marlowepi: I am with Simon about the method, and even if playing it I would open 1C|pg|| mb|p|nt|Cantorm: might anyone have bid 3@h with South hand after East's pass?|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Very very tough uncontested to stay out of it.|pg|| nt|marlowepi: i would not|pg|| nt|aardv: if robson didn't, not one would|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Note that 6 might well fail on a trump lead I think?|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|aardv: by my count (watching at another table already) 6@S is off on a trump lead|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: but not at all obvious a trump lead will arrive - then can make on a cross ruff (6@S in hand, 1@C, 2 red aces and 3 ruffs in dummy)|pg|| nt|ritong: adding up to 11 on my abacus|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: your abacus still functions splendidly, Henri :)|pg|| nt|aardv: clubs don't have to be 5-1 of course|pg|| nt|ritong: i wish it lasts alzy is waiting for me|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I would guess 2@H was showing 6+@S, whether it promised invitational values or not I don't know|pg|| nt|marlowepi: He borrowed it from Michel Abacussis|pg|| nt|ritong: marshall...:)|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: Forrester didnt want to bid @S because of wrongsiding issues (don't want a @h lead through partner's hypothetical @HK)|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aardv: has he shown a diamond void?|pg|| nt|ritong: wow|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: so|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ritong: firs step is ok|pg|| nt|ritong: first*|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: now let's see|pg|| nt|aardv: there's only one way to play this isn't there? and it works|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ritong: i would ruff several @ds|pg|| nt|marlowepi: case for a trump lead after the 4D bid in my view|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: @D ruff and AK@C throwing @Hs looks normal tbh|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: and when S ruffs second @C you change tact a bit|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I can't see him going down|pg|| nt|aardv: once south ruffs second club you know exactly what to do|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: if he does make, 14 imps back to Frogs, and a 61 imp difference with 14 boards to play|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|CopeyJ: here we go|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s5|nt|CopeyJ: not losing this bet, Marshall|pg|| nt|ritong: which is considerable, but i believe they will play out|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I think they will too henri|pg|| pc|d7|nt|Cantorm: yes 61 is doable|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: I thk if this board had been flat may have been different|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Cantorm: 75 they might not have|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|ritong: also, they have a "barbarian" style somehow which can produce tons of imp just like that|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|nt|aardv: i'd play on down 61. it's a long flight to florida|pg|| mc|12|nt|CopeyJ: Thanks all - fun and action packed set|pg|| nt|CopeyJ: see you shortly|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| nt|aardv: a bientot|pg|| nt|marlowepi: y'all come back now, hear ?|pg|| nt|Cantorm: thnk of it more as an asterix style Henri|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: you mean the magic potion|pg|| nt|Cantorm: I realy ought too get to bed - early start tomorrow and busy day|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S975H643DQJT532CJ,SAKQ864HAJ9DA874C,STHKQT5DK96CT8764,SJ32H872DCAKQ9532|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ritong: they really might get too high now|pg|| nt|ritong: since paske will likely imagine one more red king in his pard's hand|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ritong: even 6@s needs work, perhaps too much|pg|| nt|ritong: with this horrible @c break|pg|| nt|ritong: that would be the third hand in this set where @s lead is good$|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ritong: boards 7 and 12 being the first two|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|ritong: welcome to simon copey|pg|| mb|7C|mb|p|mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: was expectable|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ritong: it seems that, if we bank on 2/2 @ss and a decent @c break, then we can ruff three @ds and pitch two @hs on @cs|pg|| nt|ritong: i mean, if @ss are 2/2 and @cs split friendly this line should work too|pg|| nt|ritong: friendly meaning at worst 4/2|pg|| nt|ritong: ruffing @ds we can make with @ss 3/1|pg|| nt|ritong: when two rounds of @cs live|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ritong: no|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ritong: hurts|pg|| nt|ritong: but the other line did not work either|pg|| mc|12|pg||