vg|2018 Spingold Final,Segment 2 of 4,I,16,30,Gawrys,32,Rosenthal,7| rs|5HW+1,4HW+2,3NE+2,3NE+3,2HE+3,4HE+2,4SE+1,4SE+1,4SN-2,2SN=,3NN+1,3NN+1,2SS=,2SS-1,4SN=,4SS=,2SN+2,3HE=,4HE+1,4HE=,2HW=,2HW-1,7SW=,7SW=,3HW=,3HE=,4HS=,4HSx=,4SN-1,4SN-1| pn|Klukowski,Silverstei,Gawrys,Rosenthal,Berkowitz,Zimmermann,Migry,Multon|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST85H53DAK542C643,SKQ6HKJ972D6CQ875,S9432HQ4DT3CKJT92,SAJ7HAT86DQJ987CA|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|ritong: hi again:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST85H53DAK542C643,SKQ6HKJ972D6CQ875,S9432HQ4DT3CKJT92,SAJ7HAT86DQJ987CA|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|kareno: Back for the second quarter of the Spingold Final|pg|| mb|2D|an|!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kareno: Also: URL available (Video) at http://jaom.pl/2/|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|an|!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kareno: It's an attractive slam and should make.|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Hi Kit :)|pg|| nt|kit: Just as in first quarter, a potential slam hand on the first board of the set|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: In the OR they also stopped below slam|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kareno: The hand has already been played in the OR - making six|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|kareno: After the diamond, I assume declarer will pull two rounds of trump and proceed with a cross-ruff.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have voice commentary in this room with Larry Cohen and yours truly. If you have questions to LC, please send them to me and I will pass them on.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQT65HKQ9764D42C6,S83HJT8DKQJCA9852,S742H53DAT953CJT3,SAKJ9HA2D876CKQ74|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H|nt|Barnets: ew stopped in 4H on 16|pg|| mb|2N|nt|Barnets: in other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = nat treating as 1-suiter|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzma: Live video: http://goo.gl/qswZ58|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|Barnets: It looked like ew in this room had a much better auction getting to % finding out thry were missing the trump Q and stopping|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: btw silverstein lebensohl sequece SHOWED stopper|pg|| nt|Barnets: well he had a stopper Al|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQT65HKQ9764D42C6,S83HJT8DKQJCA9852,S742H53DAT953CJT3,SAKJ9HA2D876CKQ74|sv|o|nt|kareno: So this should be a push contract at 3nt.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|kareno: No real complexities in the play so I'll offer a cup of tea (_)? and some cookies OOO to everyone (except Roland who prefers his with chocolate chips)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, the problem is that the holes are too big.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Perhaps I should offer donuts ... OOO|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|mc|12|nt|ahollan2: fwiw in this situation EW 1N opener is 10-13|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQJ9HT4DA5CKQJT74,S6543HAJ63DK972C5,ST872H875D8643C93,SAKHKQ92DQJTCA862|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: acbl cc says "fast denies" but i always thought easier to say "slow shows"|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ritong: hands fit perfectly here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: partnership generated stopper :) auction would be same if east held @Cxx|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: and, when hands fit that perfectly, it is tough to find slam|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ritong: is this confirmed?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Barnets: 2H is an underbid|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Barnets: conservative|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|reisig: Barnet -- you can say -- what you're really thinking! :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ritong: he did|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ritong: we can read between the barnster's lines|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|nt|Barnets: I am told I am too hard on the players|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQJ9HT4DA5CKQJT74,S6543HAJ63DK972C5,ST872H875D8643C93,SAKHKQ92DQJTCA862|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: A fine slam missed here but would not be a huge gain NV since OR got only to 2@h somehow|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SATH7653DQ64C9543,SKQ97HJ92DJT932CT,SJ2HKT84DK75CQJ62,S86543HAQDA8CAK87|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 2@c = some sort of Drury|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|reisig: Next!|pg|| nt|ritong: let s claim now|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|11|nt|ritong: thank you|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SATH7653DQ64C9543,SKQ97HJ92DJT932CT,SJ2HKT84DK75CQJ62,S86543HAQDA8CAK87|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|shows 4 S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i have seen 2-way drury where 2@C = 3-fit and 2@D = 4+fit but never 2@C = 4+fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: more commonly 2@C = 3+fit|pg|| nt|ahollan2: original drury convention did not require fit|pg|| nt|Vugraphzmb: p showed d the 4 s card|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan2: also original drury used 2@D to say i did not have real opener|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAK87HK84D754CA98,SJT4H53DQ982CK652,SQ9532HJ96DAJ6CT7,S6HAQT72DKT3CQJ43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Barnets: game was bid on 18 1C -1D showing hearts 4H|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: kluky really likes his @h K|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|reisig: This rates to fail|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ritong: indeed|pg|| nt|Barnets: n had achance from north on a low heart lead 4S has no chance|pg|| nt|Barnets: 3N|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Barnets: south is very square and might have tried 3H|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAK87HK84D754CA98,SJT4H53DQ982CK652,SQ9532HJ96DAJ6CT7,S6HAQT72DKT3CQJ43|sv|b|nt|ahollan2: now except for one pair i know about all play reverse drury where rebid 2M = no game interest|pg|| nt|kareno: That's because it was invented for Eric Murray and all Doug wanted to know was if he had more than an attractive 6 count|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|LC: Drury: https://www.larryco.com/bridge-learning-center/detail/309|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|LC: I am told the link can't have the "s" after http -- oh well. I copy/pasted. :(|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SQ9876H96DKT4CAJ8,SJ4HKQ85DQ8CT7643,ST3HAJDAJ9532CKQ2,SAK52HT7432D76C95|sv|n|nt|ritong: normal to open 1NT when rebid is not clear after 1@d|pg|| nt|ritong: so we likely are in 3NT|pg|| mb|1N|nt|reisig: EW might nid here ..at fav|pg|| nt|Vugraphzma: Live video: http://goo.gl/qswZ58|pg|| nt|reisig: bid|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|reisig: problems :)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Barnets: east showed majors|pg|| nt|ritong: won t take ages|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Barnets: if he had DQ would likely make it|pg|| nt|reisig: The @ds never this way when I'm playing!|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|ritong: after the overcall it s normal to play west for @d Qxx(x)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Barnets: gawrys counting out hand|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SQ9876H96DKT4CAJ8,SJ4HKQ85DQ8CT7643,ST3HAJDAJ9532CKQ2,SAK52HT7432D76C95|sv|n|nt|kareno: Good stop by n/s|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N or 1@D?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Drury: http://www.larryco.com/bridge-learning-center/detail/309|pg|| nt|ahollan2: [yes order of list did indicate my preference]|pg|| nt|kareno: Is this a break?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: https://web3.acbl.org/nabcwinnersbyname?name=David+Berkowitz shows that berk has placed 2nd three times in spingold|pg|| nt|ahollan2: http://web3.acbl.org/nabcwinnersbyname?name=David+Berkowitz|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2C|an|!jusst a social issue|mb|3N!|nt|ahollan2: i believe there is a "Video" button on the browser bbo screen to watch live video|pg|| nt|kareno: West may be seduced into thinking his partner actually has some values|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|ahollan2: https://web3.acbl.org/nabcwinnersbyname?name=Larry+Cohen shows voice commentator did better in spingold with other partners :)|pg|| nt|ahollan2: http://web3.acbl.org/nabcwinnersbyname?name=Larry+Cohen|pg|| nt|ahollan2: ach i keep doing that without removing the "s"|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.larryco.com/bridge-articles/notrump-interference-advanced|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: if you happen to be using old windoze bbo - exit room and re-enter to see link to video|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SA8632HT9D963CT97,S975HJ853D85CAQ82,SKQ4HAQ4DAJ2CJ653,SJTHK762DKQT74CK4|sv|e|nt|Barnets: on 20 south passed 2S so will be a swing for rosenthal|pg|| nt|reisig: Much tougher with a 4@h bid ..instead of 3@h|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: considering 3NT|pg|| nt|ritong: briefly|pg|| nt|Vugraphzma: Live video: http://youtu.be/RVZLNRmO3vo|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SA8632HT9D963CT97,S975HJ853D85CAQ82,SKQ4HAQ4DAJ2CJ653,SJTHK762DKQT74CK4|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Virtually no expert partnership plays sandwich notrump these days|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| nt|LC: 1984Spingold: http://www.larryco.com/slir/w800-h650/uploaded/photo/Logo_27.jpg|pg|| nt|kareno: 1nt by an unpassed hand shows a strong nt. |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|nt|medwards: Is that because of light opening bids and light responses?|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ahollan2: Dr Jorge [George Rosenkranz] turns 101 sometime this month|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|kareno: That's my aim in life!|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i bring that up because the link from larry cohen supposed to be about the time Edith Rosenkranz was kidnapped during a National [now called NABC]|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s6|nt|kareno: Al I was her next-day partner the day she was kidnapped in Washington D.C.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Washington 1984 |pg|| nt|ahollan2: sorry i am off by a year rosenkranz turns 102 this month|pg|| nt|ahollan2: thanks to many for the wakeup|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|mc|7|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SKT9743HT4DKJ7C54,S6HJ9852DQ63CKQ92,SAJ5HAKQ7DT4CAJ83,SQ82H63DA9852CT76|sv|b|mb|2D|nt|Barnets: multi|pg|| nt|Barnets: weak 2 in major|pg|| mb|p|nt|Barnets: north 2N|pg|| nt|Barnets: sor he may just go to game|pg|| nt|Barnets: heis wondering if slam is possible|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|reisig: He "might" guess opener's suit :)|pg|| mb|3C|an|min|nt|Barnets: south can show min or max here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Barnets: I think that is a min|pg|| mb|3H|nt|Barnets: now 3h shows spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|Barnets: I did play this exact sytem|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Barnets: it enables all hands to be played by north and also show min max|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Barnets: so if south had responded 3H to 2n that was a max with spades|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Barnets: and 3C is any min with hearts or spades|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Barnets: so if south had hearts he would have bid 3S over 3d|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SKT9743HT4DKJ7C54,S6HJ9852DQ63CKQ92,SAJ5HAKQ7DT4CAJ83,SQ82H63DA9852CT76|sv|b|nt|kareno: Very comfortable 4@s n/s. Slam needs too much,.|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i saw rosenkranz hold the dice for almost 40 minutes at craps table during a las vegas national |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: thousands of dollars flowing back and forth|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan2: dr george never bet more than $2 or an occasional "hard-way"|pg|| nt|kareno: Wish I'd been at the table!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan2: good news already for the Helness family --- Fredrik [son] & Gunn Kari [wife] won the norwegian mixed pairs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzmb: sQ was not played on 2nd round|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJ732HTDQT54CAQJ2,SK84HKJ7DJ73CT973,SQT96H9632DA8CK54,SA5HAQ854DK962C86|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|nt|reisig: Where's my ice?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|h2|mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJ732HTDQT54CAQJ2,SK84HKJ7DJ73CT973,SQT96H9632DA8CK54,SA5HAQ854DK962C86|sv|o|nt|kareno: I assumed not. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|nt|ahollan2: apologies i know i am missing many private messages this set -- brain just too fuzzy|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|kit: this double will allow North to compete to 2@S and force opponents up to 3-level|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: has anyone mentioned that berkowitz has already won an event in atlanta?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|kit: Repeated trump leads will hold declarer to 5 heart tricks, 2 spade tricks, 1 diamond trick|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|nt|kit: Bu t now declarer may be able to get 6 trump tricks|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kareno: Given that point, Kit, it is still hard to lead a singleton trump ten,.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kit: Nothing hard about it -- you take the card out of your hand and put it on the table.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pc|d9|pg|| nt|kit: Now declarer will ruff high, ruff a spade, take a couple of trumps, exit with a trump, and exit with a club, eventually taking his trump tricks.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h2|mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S8653HA52DA85CT52,SQJ74H76DKQT92CQ3,SK2H93DJ643CA9874,SAT9HKQJT84D7CKJ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Barnets: dec has to get to dummy to take a spade fin in hearts|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Barnets: trump lead looks best|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ritong: decision time for gawrys|pg|| nt|Barnets: north has to play the 8 |pg|| nt|ritong: pard may well hold @c K|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|reisig: if he played low ..and pard had the King ....oh boy :)|pg|| nt|Barnets: the c10 lead would have worked better|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ritong: pard may well hold @s A|pg|| nt|Barnets: dec would have had to ruff a club to get to dummy|pg|| nt|Vugraphzma: Live video: http://youtu.be/RVZLNRmO3vo|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|Barnets: then fin spades|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Barnets: and play trump without taking a second spade fin or he would lose a ruff|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ritong: declarer can t even shorten N's agony since if they do not cash the @dA it disappears|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S8653HA52DA85CT52,SQJ74H76DKQT92CQ3,SK2H93DJ643CA9874,SAT9HKQJT84D7CKJ6|sv|e|nt|kit: I wonder what actually happened there|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3H|an|!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: You said that earlier. |pg|| pc|c2|nt|kareno: Sorry should have been private|pg|| nt|kit: Normal 4@H contract , which might be defeated|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|kit: But not now, as North will have to win ace of clubs and now declarer will have entry for spade finesse|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|kit: North has natural king of spades shift, playing partner for ace of spades|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S732HK87DKJ874CAQ,SKQHQ96543D3CJ852,S9865HAT2DT2CK764,SAJT4HJDAQ965CT93|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Barnets: so last board a chance for pickup uif south can find a trump lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|Barnets: def gone astray here|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|Barnets: butbut can surbvive|pg|| nt|Barnets: c overtake and ruff|pg|| nt|Barnets: a good recovery|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S732HK87DKJ874CAQ,SKQHQ96543D3CJ852,S9865HAT2DT2CK764,SAJT4HJDAQ965CT93|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: 2@H looks like normal contrac -- seems like it is likely to go down, but somehow made at other table.|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kareno: Well this lead is best for the defense. |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|kareno: I'm guessing maybe a spade lead in the OR or tricks got tangled.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kit: On queen of clubs North should overtake -- if South had AQx, would have won irsst trick with queen of clubs|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|h8|nt|kit: However,, with ace of trumps entry, North is right to duck -- if there were no entry then overtake would be necessary|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|nt|kareno: I'm told the defense ducked the @h J. So more of a blunder|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJ7HQJT4DJ74C6542,SKT96HAK7DQT83CAK,S432H986532D2CQ98,SAQ85HDAK965CJT73|sv|o|nt|reisig: Defense is tough|pg|| nt|Barnets: so north south usually are very accurate in def not this time|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|Barnets: granny here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Barnets: looks like puppet stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Barnets: maybe 5@H exclusion keycard|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|Barnets: will get 6C|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|Barnets: now 6D|pg|| nt|Barnets: grand try|pg|| nt|Barnets: 6D shows all key cards and is a grand try|pg|| nt|Barnets: west has HAK wasted|pg|| nt|Barnets: but 2 discards|pg|| nt|Barnets: he may accept|pg|| mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|ritong: barry rigal would say " we don t need no stinking try"|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJ7HQJT4DJ74C6542,SKT96HAK7DQT83CAK,S432H986532D2CQ98,SAQ85HDAK965CJT73|sv|o|nt|kit: This looks like a pretty trivial grand to bid|pg|| nt|kit: 7@D is best slam, since no worry about 4-1 spade split|pg|| nt|pdlit: opening lead in OR was a @d, J of @h ducked, pitches on @s|pg|| nt|kareno: Should be bid in diamonds for safety|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|an|!|nt|kit: I would expect them to get to 7@S, though, since if West has 3 clubs then the losing club can go on the fifth diamond (playing in spades).|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|nt|ahollan2: first suggestion for change to software that i ever submitted to bbo: operator ability to INSERT PASS, second REMOVE PASS|pg|| nt|kit: As usual, the space-consuming 2NT opening makes a decent exploratory auction impossible.|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: having to do multiple undo is .... obscene|pg|| mb|4N|nt|ahollan2: time dependent, risks operator missing what is happening during the undos, etc [ i know because i've been there, done that]|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: funniest comment GIB says, this is down 13 :)|pg|| nt|kareno: GIB is a genius!!|pg|| nt|poohbear: no dbl no trbl|pg|| nt|kareno: Having discussions with specs who think there are always 4 spade tricks in 7nt. |pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kit: Blind guess on the spade suit -- no inference on non-trump lead, as would never lead trump from either a stiff or Jxxx|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|kareno: Exactly my point. the 9 makes it a two-way guess with no information|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAQ4HA64D754CQ852,SKJTHKJ875D932C76,S98765HQDQT86CAJ9,S32HT932DAKJCKT43|sv|n|nt|reisig: well claimed|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing, multi-purpose|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Barnets: I am on it right now all ok try againOn 25 when a low trump or C10 would beat 4@h south led the C2 giving north an unsolvable problem |pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|ritong: @c5 barnet|pg|| nt|Barnets: he played ace and that was a flat boards|pg|| nt|ritong: not my point to bicker that out, but is polish style|pg|| nt|reisig: Come on guys :)|pg|| nt|ritong: 2/4|pg|| nt|Barnets: the other table|pg|| nt|Barnets: Berkowitz led the c2|pg|| nt|ritong: ah ok sry|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAQ4HA64D754CQ852,SKJTHKJ875D932C76,S98765HQDQT86CAJ9,S32HT932DAKJCKT43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|10-13|nt|ahollan2: 10-13|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|an|!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: I don't understand this call. With both opponents passing, likely to buy it for 2@H, and can compete to 3@H if need be.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|swanson: Why a super accept opposite a passed partner - both opponents have passed? Looks like an invitation for a minus.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i still wonder why transfers opposite mini|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|kareno: I guess it is sort of LOTT|pg|| nt|kit: Fortunate that the side suits are all onside.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|swanson: Kit beat me to it.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: John :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SKHAKT98742DT87CQ,SJT52HQJ3DA92CK65,S9763H5DK4CAJ7432,SAQ84H6DQJ653CT98|sv|b|nt|reisig: Is a Pass out ..against the law ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| nt|aardv: accurate defence needed here|pg|| nt|reisig: Can beat this w @d return|pg|| nt|aardv: diamond return has to be ducked to the king i think|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|reisig: Very tough to get it right|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|c6|pg|| mc|10|nt|reisig: Made the only play ..to make the hand|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SKHAKT98742DT87CQ,SJT52HQJ3DA92CK65,S9763H5DK4CAJ7432,SAQ84H6DQJ653CT98|sv|b|nt|ahollan2: this is etierh 10 or 11 8-bagger i have seen this week|pg|| nt|kit: After likely 4@H opener, will East reopen with a double? Probably percentage action.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Very tempting at equal.|pg|| nt|kit: West will likely pass, and spade lead looks normal -- and East will shift to heart|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: And now declarer can make with club finesse.|pg|| nt|swanson: Obvious low diamond lead.|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|kareno: :) john|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| nt|kit: I don't see how East can not shit to a trump. Declarer might have Axx of diamonds|pg|| nt|swanson: That's the reason I prefer voice.|pg|| nt|kareno: It's obvious and Multon surely will play it.|pg|| nt|kareno: What, Kit's misprint?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: before i forget NOT long halftime break today -- just short break after this [slow] table finishes|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|ritong: nice shift boyo|pg|| nt|kit: Amazingly he found the diamond shift -- but if he had shifted to the queen, West could find the winning duck.|pg|| nt|kit: Well, possible to play the 9.|pg|| nt|aardv: i can't see how it can be wrong to play the 9 here|pg|| nt|kareno: Now there is a line to make unless west ducks.|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer would have done well, to play 10 of diamonds this time, but how would he know East had foolishly underled QJ|pg|| nt|kit: Remember, from his point of view declarer could have KQ doubleton of spades|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: colour me impressed|pg|| nt|kit: but still, diamond 9 does look right|pg|| nt|swanson: Multon made the great play by shifting to a diamond. West should would it out. Fortunately he has QJx of hearts os can always led a heart himself.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h2|nt|kit: I am amazed by the diamond shift -- it could have been so wrong|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kit: New problem -- can Wst find the duck here?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: do NS play Namyats? |pg|| nt|kit: Difficult|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|dT|nt|swanson: There goes the write-up.|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|medwards: Really interesting hand.|pg|| nt|ritong: there s an other one on the last board, john|pg|| nt|kit: Remember West doesnt know declarer has 8 hearts|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S832HK75D3CJT8542,S75HJ643DQJ76CA76,SAKQT4H9DAK952CQ9,SJ96HAQT82DT84CK3|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: NOT long break today between Q2 and Q3 short break after slow table finishes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they are bidding 27 now|pg|| nt|Barnets: they bid the grand on 27|pg|| nt|Barnets: in spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Barnets: last board before dinner break|pg|| nt|Barnets: anyone know restart time ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: zimmermann also 7@S|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: pleasant dummy|pg|| pc|hA|nt|reisig: Trump lead is "normal"|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|reisig: Now @C @C @C = -1|pg|| nt|Barnets: restart 5pm atlanta time|pg|| nt|reisig: 2 hrs from now|pg|| nt|ritong: 3@h is four @hs almost 100% of the time|pg|| nt|ritong: so, count is known west's @h spot is thus preferential|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Barnets: so h3 should be suit pref|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|Barnets: wd|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|nt|Barnets: good def|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pg|| mc|9|nt|Barnets: lot of boards to go still|pg|| nt|Barnets: tks operator and all|pg|| nt|reisig: thanks all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzma: Thanks all|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S832HK75D3CJT8542,S75HJ643DQJ76CA76,SAKQT4H9DAK952CQ9,SJ96HAQT82DT84CK3|sv|o|nt|kit: If West were 1-7-3-2, then it would have been necessary to cover|pg|| nt|ahollan2: can we break without playing 30?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 29 was exhausting|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|ahollan2: rewind i think restart in 1 hour 40 minutes|pg|| nt|kit: Everybody saying West should have worked it out -- would East have doubled with 2 hears, etc. Of course the kibs are right. Still, it is a lot harder at the table.|pg|| nt|ritong: in the other room, the polish 1@c opening allowed a 1@h overcall, jump raised by west|pg|| nt|ritong: showing then four cards in @hs|pg|| nt|ritong: and making easier a @h A lead|pg|| nt|ritong: followed by @c K shift when west contributed his lowest @h|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|kareno: Shift still available|pg|| nt|kit: Club shift quite findable here|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c7|nt|kareno: So down one|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| pg||