vg|2018 USBC FINAL,Segment 3 of 8,I,1,15,Lall,37,Nickell,72| rs|4SN=,3NN+2,4SW+2,4SW+2,3HE=,3HE=,1SW+1,1SW=,2SW+2,2SW+2,3HW=,2SN=,1NS-1,3DW=,3SN=,4HWx-1,3NN+2,3NN+1,3NN-3,5DN-1,2NN-1,1NW-1,3CW-3,3DE+1,5DW=,5DW=,6HN=,6HS=,4HS=,4HS+1| pn|Bathurst,Katz,J Lall,Nickell,Rodwell,Zia,Meckstroth,Pepsi|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQJ974HQ9532D2CT4,ST62HT8DJ974CAJ87,SAK5H74DAKQT6CKQ6,S83HAKJ6D853C9532|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|chip: strong club and negative D, then 2N showing like 21-23- I think|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|chip: pretty easy 10 tricks|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQJ974HQ9532D2CT4,ST62HT8DJ974CAJ87,SAK5H74DAKQT6CKQ6,S83HAKJ6D853C9532|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Meckstroth explaining Rodwell's hand|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|nt|kit: Zia did well to play jack of clubs at trick 1. He could read from the lead what is going on in clubs, but declarer won't know|pg|| nt|kit: Thus, declarer will be pretty much forced to just cash out.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cA|mc|11|nt|kit: However, he shouldn't have pitched all of his hearts|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA3H764DKQJ7CQ764,SQ8752HAQ5DT4CAK8,SJ96H983D98532C93,SKT4HKJT2DA6CJT52|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|chip: heading to 4S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: probably 11 on D lead, 12 otherwise.|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|mc|12|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA3H764DKQJ7CQ764,SQ8752HAQ5DT4CAK8,SJ96H983D98532C93,SKT4HKJT2DA6CJT52|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|kit: This looks like a relatively dull 4@C contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|mc|12|nt|kit: South might have made a lead-directing double of 2@D, but there is the fear of the blue card|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SA862HQ9DKJ975CAT,SQ75HT7DQ42CQ9632,SKT94H43D863CJ874,SJ3HAKJ8652DATCK5|sv|e|mb|1N!|an|13/14-16|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: cute 3 NT for EW |pg|| nt|MrAce: not that they will bid it but. 3 NT seems untouchable|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SA862HQ9DKJ975CAT,SQ75HT7DQ42CQ9632,SKT94H43D863CJ874,SJ3HAKJ8652DATCK5|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kit: I don't know what they play here. Most likely he will bid 3@H.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJTHKJ932DT8763C8,SAK963H75DQ2CAKT7,SQ742HA84DAK9CJ43,S85HQT6DJ54CQ9652|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|chip: same contract other room on 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|chip: 7 tricks in s, 9 in clubs|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|MrAce: NS have 9 tricks in @H on this one, not sure how they would interfere though|pg|| nt|ahollan1: identical auciton in closed room|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|chip: maybe need a points dbl by n|pg|| nt|MrAce: could be since he has 3 of all other suits as well |pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|nt|chip: I'd like that better if NV|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|MrAce: yes, also starting DBL may lead pd to misjudge their number of spades too |pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJTHKJ932DT8763C8,SAK963H75DQ2CAKT7,SQ742HA84DAK9CJ43,S85HQT6DJ54CQ9652|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Meckstroth is in thought.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Meckstroth still in thought.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|mc|7|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQJHJ63DAJ5CQT854,SA87652HT7D962CAJ,SK43H942D8743CK97,ST9HAKQ85DKQTC632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|Flannery alert|nt|ahollan1: 1@H usually not 4@S [2@D = Flannery]|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 5+@S or 4@S willing to hear raise w/3|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|MrAce: Al, if E supports @S suit does it mean 3 or 4 with extras ? |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: 3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|MrAce: ok thanks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: with 4 & extras you do something other than mere 2@S|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|chip: since 1S usually 5, easy to raise showing 3 and a minimum type hand|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|MrAce: oh so they hide 4 card @S over 1@H, Chip? |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: timo - were you thinking of the Kaplan-Sheinwold type auction where 1x-1M-2M could be normal unbal raise OR strong NT [KS used weak NT]|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQJHJ63DAJ5CQT854,SA87652HT7D962CAJ,SK43H942D8743CK97,ST9HAKQ85DKQTC632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SKT6HA83DKQ43CQ94,SJ97HKT9762D6CKT6,SA854HJDJT972C732,SQ32HQ54DA85CAJ85|sv|e|nt|MrAce: yes, Al. |pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: not only do we have Chip for Flannery related discussions - but also KS |pg|| nt|ahollan1: and maybe one or two other things|pg|| mb|r!|mb|2D|nt|MrAce: as you see most people still play this X by N as penalty to prevent psyce, not most top players anymore|pg|| nt|chip: xx = support|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: 4H makes on club guess|pg|| pc|dT|nt|MrAce: everyone followed "the law" on this one :) |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|MrAce: Larry Cohen would be proud of them :) |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: zia bid 2@H over 1@C-DBL then sold out to 2@S by meckstroth|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SKT6HA83DKQ43CQ94,SJ97HKT9762D6CKT6,SA854HJDJT972C732,SQ32HQ54DA85CAJ85|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan2: katz only bid 1@H|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i thought 2@H bid was supposed to be weaker|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Seems like East should bid 3@H with 3-card support|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|ahollan2: acbl CC just says over takeout dbl that 2-level=weak|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer knows he need diamonds in all variations, so he sets them up first -- if the opponents get a ruff, maybe it will be with a natural trump trick.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan2: btw there is voice commentary at this table|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: actually voice commentary at both tables|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sT|mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAK8H8732DJT4CA97,S9H96DQ98652CKT63,SQT632HKJDA73C852,SJ754HAQT54DKCQJ4|sv|b|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: "The Law" was actually wrong on that previous hand, both sides had 9 card fit but only one side was making 9 tricks while NS would end up with 8 tricks had they played 3@D |pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|chip: but EW can make 10 tricks, so in theory holds up|pg|| nt|MrAce: yes i missed that |pg|| nt|chip: on deal 6|pg|| nt|MrAce: guessing @C |pg|| nt|MrAce: of course "the law" is based on DD (double dummy) |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|chip: with clubs 4-1 EW can beat this with normal play|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|MrAce: you mean @S? |pg|| nt|chip: yes, thanks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there is voice commentary at both tables|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h5|pg|| nt|chip: if declarer ducked 2 clubs would have a chance.|pg|| nt|MrAce: then W would take @CK and play @H i guess|pg|| nt|MrAce: E cashing AQ @H and exitting with 3rd @C, declarer may make it if he reads the position perhaps endplaying E|pg|| nt|MrAce: idk..|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| mc|6|nt|chip: declarer risked going down by ducking 2 clubs; if defense could take 4 hearts, so Ithink his line correct|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAK8H8732DJT4CA97,S9H96DQ98652CKT63,SQT632HKJDA73C852,SJ754HAQT54DKCQJ4|sv|b|mb|1D!|nt|Walddk2: Down 1, no?|pg|| mb|p|nt|shuster: was that making or -1? |pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan2: i only know voice commentary via bbo browser no idea about which version(s) and/or other devices|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|shuster: defense had 6 tricks on play shown...|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@D=10-12, 2+@D // 1@S = not 4+@H unless FG // DBL = 3@S|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|barmar: voice not available in the mobile app or windows download, only the browser|pg|| nt|kit: West had reasonable hopes for getting better support.|pg|| nt|ahollan2: FG = Forcing Game likewise F1 = Forcing 1 round F2N = Forcing to 2N|pg|| nt|kit: Still, it looks like 3@D will make|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan2: thx barry|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKJ64H3DQJT6C7632,S532HAKJ2DK75CKQ9,SAT987HQT8D4CA854,SQH97654DA9832CJT|sv|o|mb|1N!|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|MrAce: looks like both sides can make up to 9 tricks in majors|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|MrAce: 3@D i suppose was a @S raise, good @S raise|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: don't take my word on it though |pg|| nt|MrAce: just guessing|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|s4|nt|MrAce: this hand shows how important it is to intervene their NT, looking at EW hand they could make game with a friendly @H split, and these players bid games with much less odss than this|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|MrAce: but they did not even have a chance to speak up their suit |pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|sT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|hK|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKJ64H3DQJT6C7632,S532HAKJ2DK75CKQ9,SAT987HQT8D4CA854,SQH97654DA9832CJT|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|Vugraphzfe: Board 6 was bid 2 and making|pg|| nt|ahollan2: how would we explain if 6@S was a making contract??|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@C = @C and @H/@S|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan2: no info about relative length|pg|| nt|ahollan2: many play system on since 2@C takes up no room|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so 2@D=@H|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|ahollan2: i have a list of guesses about 2@H but they would be pure guesses|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: good @C bid is my leading contender|pg|| nt|kit: Certainly reasonable to bid 4@H|pg|| nt|kit: And in fact 3@S is making anyway|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: kit - do you think 2@H should mean @C and/or @S?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I have no idea Al -- I'm not familiar with the structure|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kit: North better take his setting trick -- I'm sure he will.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAQJ6HAJ9DJTCK743,S93HQ7654DQ97C985,ST4HKT3DK5432CAQ6,SK8752H82DA86CJT2|sv|e|nt|chip: E might well have done something with 5-5 and a 7 count.|pg|| nt|MrAce: probably neg x, Chip? |pg|| nt|chip: but would have still been out bid.|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|chip: yes, I would X and bid 3D over 3C. |pg|| mb|p|nt|MrAce: thanks|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|chip: Don't like to X with a stiff, but OK since the Q (so helps if partner passes the DBl)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAQJ6HAJ9DJTCK743,S93HQ7654DQ97C985,ST4HKT3DK5432CAQ6,SK8752H82DA86CJT2|sv|e|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|kit: Very flattish set of beards, and this one is no exception.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|d5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SHAKQTDK63CAQT762,SKQ8542H854DAQCK4,SA93H73DT98742CJ9,SJT76HJ962DJ5C853|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|d!|mb|2S|nt|MrAce: 5@D looks better, no ? |pg|| mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|MrAce: this is a weird hand |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+ BAL // DBL 5-7 [nothing about shape]|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|MrAce: Justin hoping @CK to be on, which is not |pg|| pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|nt|MrAce: Katz can duck this to encourage @D shift perhaps|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d7|nt|MrAce: dummy squeezed though |pg|| pc|h6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: meck in 5@D north lead @SJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| mc|6|nt|MrAce: but Katz gave up|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SHAKQTDK63CAQT762,SKQ8542H854DAQCK4,SA93H73DT98742CJ9,SJT76HJ962DJ5C853|sv|b|nt|ahollan2: no matchpoints for that line|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|d!|nt|ahollan2: DBL = 5-7|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan2: 5 hcp can go either way|pg|| nt|ahollan2: says nothing about shape|pg|| mb|d!|nt|ahollan2: rodwell dbl = takeout|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: in other room lall-bathurst also playing a strong 1@C [more like RM Lite structure]|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ854HQ7DKQT7CJ94,SK76HJT84DA62CA82,SA3HAK53DJ93C7653,SJT92H962D854CKQT|sv|o|nt|MrAce: was scared Justin had the remaining @Cs|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|MrAce: Meck going down 1 in 5@D so another 5 imps to Nickell I think |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|MrAce: another @S now will do it for defense |pg|| nt|ahollan1: rodwell did not realize south had was an opening bid|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so zia playing 1N west|pg|| pc|sT|mc|7|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ854HQ7DKQT7CJ94,SK76HJT84DA62CA82,SA3HAK53DJ93C7653,SJT92H962D854CKQT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan2: this is only day 1 of a 2-day 120 board match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan2: segment 3 of 8|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|kit: Heart tricks won't run away, so diamond shift looks right|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan2: this is only 3rd day of play for Nickell, who had a bye to QuarterFinal |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: Lall also had to play 2 days of round robin and 2 days of R16|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahollan2: duh day 5 for nickell|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|fuquay: It is not clear to S (I assume) who holds the @DJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|ahollan2: in other room chip martel said " meckwell used to be light openers, but no longer (they stayed about the same, but others bids got weaker)."|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|fuquay: Is Jeff worried that W may hold @DAQ at this point?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|mc|6|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAKJ97H865DJ86CK4,ST2HJDQT7542CAQ52,S63HAT432D9CJ9876,SQ854HKQ97DAK3CT3|sv|n|nt|chip: meckwell used to be light openers, but no longer (they stayed about the same, but others bids got weaker).|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|MrAce: another good 3 NT with EW cards|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|chip: for sure good in practice|pg|| mb|p|nt|chip: fit showing jump by PH I'd guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|MrAce: yes in practice, @CK on helps as well as 5-2 @S instead of 4-3 @S in NS|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: without interference 3@C = mixed raise|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|MrAce: also @ST is big card in W hand|pg|| pc|sA|nt|MrAce: in 3 NT i mean |pg|| nt|chip: not the best contract|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: i would have thought passed hand 3@C either a) still mixed raise b) fit-showing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: either way expected nickell to bid 3@D|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pg|| nt|MrAce: Zia-Pepsi may bid this |pg|| pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|chip: yes, likely they will find a way to 3@c also -)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|MrAce: :)|pg|| nt|chip: E was perhaps hoping for 4-6 rather than 6-4 shape|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|chip: I guess heading for 3 down|pg|| nt|MrAce: they started same but Pepsi corrected to 3@D |pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|chip: N needed to lead heart T and have S upercut with club 4!|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAKJ97H865DJ86CK4,ST2HJDQT7542CAQ52,S63HAT432D9CJ9876,SQ854HKQ97DAK3CT3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT6HA9642D5CQJT7,SJHQT8DAQJ72CAK86,S9832H73DK84C9532,SAK754HKJ5DT963C4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|MrAce: "S upercut" sounded like a hair cut commercial :) |pg|| mb|4C|nt|chip: Kib asks if "part-score boards a decisive factor for successes" |pg|| mb|p|nt|chip: I'd say important, but rarely decisive.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 12 zia also bid 3@C with west cards but pepsi corrected to 3@D go figure|pg|| mb|4S|nt|chip: those 5's and 6's do add up.|pg|| mb|p|nt|MrAce: 2 kc out will stop them |pg|| nt|chip: Guess it depends what shape one expects for 3C.|pg|| nt|MrAce: I'd expect 4@D+ 5 or longer @C suit |pg|| nt|chip: wonder if 4H by E would be keycard ask? Otherwise would think it helpful to Q-bid that.|pg|| nt|chip: of course RKC would keep EW out of a reasonable but losing slam.|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|chip: E did well to sign off despite having a h control. |pg|| nt|MrAce: i think 5@C told him the number of kc W has |pg|| nt|MrAce: i may be wrong |pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|MrAce: or at least denied holding 3 or more kc |pg|| nt|chip: If N ducked at trick one would threaten a @h ruff, but declarer can play AK of either black suit to throw the third heart and stop that.|pg|| nt|MrAce: and there was this discussion which said "@H7 is always singleton" when Zia and Steve went down in 4@S earlier in the event :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|chip: But that would be a necessary defense if declarer had say Jx QTx KQJxxx AQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|chip: note that declarer is doing just that in case N has 5 hearts.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|mc|11|nt|chip: though if playing A and a trump, no risk of a ruff once heart A won.|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQT6HA9642D5CQJT7,SJHQT8DAQJ72CAK86,S9832H73DK84C9532,SAK754HKJ5DT963C4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|fuquay: Here is the kind of hand that can swing a lot of IMPs by luck|pg|| nt|fuquay: Slam is bascially on a finesse --- should you bid it or not?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fuquay: People have given me a number of answers --- the correct answer is you should bid it only if the K is onside : |pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|fuquay: Zia must be careful to pitch a @H on a @S|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|fuquay: Well, he would have if the A was ducked :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SKQJ9HKJ852DAQCA9,SAT2H943DT84CKQJ7,S7HAQT6DKJ632C853,S86543H7D975CT642|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|MrAce: slam hand for NS|pg|| mb|1H!|an|8-11, no 5!S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|chip: strong C, 1H shows 8-11 any except not 5S.|pg|| nt|chip: 2H natural and 3S splinter.|pg|| mb|4S!|mb|p|mb|4N!|mb|p|mb|5C!|mb|d|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: I think S should try for slam and N with Max should do the pushing, but instead overbids to what could b a no play slam. imagine N with a min: x AQxx Jxxx Jxxx.|pg|| nt|chip: particularly with marked club lead through the A.|pg|| mb|p|pc|c4|nt|chip: maybe 3S showed extras, but I doubt it.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SKQJ9HKJ852DAQCA9,SAT2H943DT84CKQJ7,S7HAQT6DKJ632C853,S86543H7D975CT642|sv|o|nt|fuquay: Spectator points out that clubs is another suit to pitch @H on and probably safer|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: sorry 1@C = 16+unbal or 17+BAL // 2@C = FG, 5+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@D = 5+@H, ASK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@D = 4-fit|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 3@H RELAY 3N = exactly 1@S|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 4@C cue // 4@D last train|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ritong: play might go faster than the auction|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| mc|12|nt|ritong: pump trump, ovrtake @d Q give @s A|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SKJ8H874DA832CAK9,S7643HA3DK95CJ842,S52HKQJ652DQTCQT3,SAQT9HT9DJ764C765|sv|n|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|MrAce: 4d|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|MrAce: nope|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is it possible that lall's sequence was going to continue 3@H-3N as COG with 6@H?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|nt|MrAce: idk, a spectator tells me he just invited |pg|| nt|MrAce: 3@S accepted the invitation |pg|| nt|ahollan1: guessing restart will be sooner than posted schedule of 10 past the hour|pg|| nt|MrAce: invit+|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SKJ8H874DA832CAK9,S7643HA3DK95CJ842,S52HKQJ652DQTCQT3,SAQT9HT9DJ764C765|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|fuquay: That lead will speed up the hand on this one|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| nt|fuquay: It just got slowed down a bit :)|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ahollan2: other table on 14 so restart after slow table takes a break|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|mc|11|nt|ahollan2: other table starting 15 so expect early start for segment 4|pg|| pg||