vg|2018 USBC FINAL,Segment 1 of 8,I,1,15,Lall,0,Nickell,0| rs|3NW+3,4SW+1,3NN=,4SN+1,3SW-2,3NE-4,4SS-1,3SN=,3DEx-2,3DEx-3,4SN-1,4SN=,4HS-1,4HS-2,3SWx-4,5DN=,2CSx-1,4SEx-3,2HE+1,2HE+2,4HS+2,5DS+1,4SW+2,4SW+2,3NE+1,3NE+1,5CE+1,4CW+1,4HW-2,4HW-2| pn|Zia,Levin,Pepsi,Weinstein,Meckstroth,Milner,Rodwell,H Lall|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SK5HJ9642DJ832C94,SAJ2HAQ75DAKCQ862,S643HKT8D764CA753,SQT987H3DQT95CKJT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ritong: it*|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|MrAce: ignore the screen, i think operator is doing some work now |pg|| nt|ahollan1: operator just had to force us to see the micro-multi opener again |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rebuilding hands from when tables had wrong team listed as home|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST83HAT8765DCJ762,SQ4HKQ2DAJ632CT94,SAK972H3DKQT9CAK3,SJ65HJ94D8754CQ85|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1STHQJT853DA9CT986,S8753H92D7632CJ32,SKQJ4H76DQ54CKQ75,SA962HAK4DKJT8CA4|sv|e|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ritong: ah yes the inversion|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|7|nt|MrAce: ozellikle bizim Turkler :) |pg|| nt|MrAce: acmaz yani |pg|| nt|MrAce: sry priv|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQT752HT63DKJ74C6,S4HJ875D96CAQJ853,SA86HK94DA8532CK9,SKJ93HAQ2DQTCT742|sv|b|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: clever just changed which table open and which closed|pg|| pc|d6|nt|chip: Not sure if there was a crash or just restarted to get the teams correct.|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|chip: Lall should be NS in the open room, they took over the 1 seed.|pg|| mc|9|nt|chip: Here Zia is South, Levin W and Weinstein E.|pg|| nt|kit: Hi everybody|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SK84HKQ7643DCAQ82,SAQ65HT982D762CT6,ST9732HADQJT94C74,SJHJ5DAK853CKJ953|sv|n|nt|kit: Thanks, Chip|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ritong: salut kit|pg|| mb|1H|nt|chip: no large swings, but so far all the small ones to Nickell.|pg|| mb|d|nt|3for3: EW in trouble in other room, 3@Dx|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: shutdown caused movies to lose bidding/play but that will be restored in archive|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|chip: maybe not so bad, off 2H, 2C and 2D for down 2 (and maybe even down 1 if can throw a heart on spades).|pg|| mb|d|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: and same here |pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|chip: normal unlucky lead|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|chip: Here Zia is South, Levin W and Weinstein E.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d7|nt|kit: Not cashing the queen of hearts looks costly|pg|| nt|chip: still down 2, but it doesn't matter that heart not cashed. Comes back in the wash|pg|| nt|3for3: Rodwell shifted to a diamond at trick, so their heart trick went away on spades...|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ritong: .|pg|| nt|chip: Seems defense can get 3 down if cash their hearts, now declarer can get out for down 2.|pg|| nt|ritong: i would take for certain south has the @s K|pg|| nt|3for3: I think Weinstein is wondering why Zia didn't cash heart...might fear it was a greek gift?|pg|| nt|chip: could be. Other table did get -3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ritong: i mean, north would certainly bid first round with @h A @d QJ and @s K|pg|| nt|3for3: Weinstein knows that Zia knows his shape...|pg|| nt|chip: declarer can literally play any card next and still go down 2.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SK84HKQ7643DCAQ82,SAQ65HT982D762CT6,ST9732HADQJT94C74,SJHJ5DAK853CKJ953|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: closed room is being changed and then we will update first 4 or 5 boards as play continues|pg|| nt|ritong: fine thx|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: we are current in open room|pg|| nt|ahollan2: clever just changed which table open and which closed|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: there is recorded video however I do not believe it is live|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: shutdown caused movies to lose bidding/play but that will be restored in archive|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfe: yes we reentered scores in movie but play will not be reloaded now|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|h4|pc|d7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SK9763HKJ5D75C642,S4HAT84DAQJ642CJ5,SAQT5H32DKT98CAKT,SJ82HQ976D3CQ9873|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: zia too strong for favorable micro-mini|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: stayman used to describe 5@S invit|pg|| nt|ritong: i like stayman then 2@s, inviting|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|3for3: Plus second seat, plus 5332, plus great 3 card hearts...|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: that was the initial plan, now game is in order|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that treatment opens up some kool science for 1N-2@H-2@S auctions|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|ritong: including 2NT forcing and 3m 5+ cards|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer needs to not play king of diamonds I think|pg|| nt|chip: yes|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|kit: A play which looks quite findable|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|ritong: bit hasty ducking allows to pith the losing @c|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| nt|chip: ducking lose if d 5-2 and w aqH|pg|| nt|kit: He always needs queen of hearts onside. Assuming that, he has 6 spades, 1 diamond, 2 clubs, and 1 heart. So playing king of diamonds can't gain, and can cost as seen.|pg|| nt|chip: playing k could gain if e is say 2-4-5-2 with aq H|pg|| nt|chip: not saying k is right, but is not nullo|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|ritong: the fact is he led @d A without the K ordinarily a really long suit, then|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|nt|kit: East was onlead|pg|| nt|ritong: admittedly he knows @d K is in dummy|pg|| nt|ritong: ah right|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SK9763HKJ5D75C642,S4HAT84DAQJ642CJ5,SAQT5H32DKT98CAKT,SJ82HQ976D3CQ9873|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ahollan2: zia used stayman - intending to rebid 2@S until pepsi showed 4/5@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: to make 4s does declarer need to duck dH at trick two?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan2: just checked CC EW standard signals, so @D3 had to be stiff|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKJ42H92DAQJCAJ82,SAQ83HD8432C97653,S975HAJT873DK6CKT,ST6HKQ654DT975CQ4|sv|b|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|3for3: Rodwell did not face this problem...another 12 to Nickell|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Normal but doomed 4@H contract|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: would you believe @H split 3-2 in other room?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ritong: no, but i would believe 3NT|pg|| nt|ritong: i would not be shocked with 1NT 2@d 2@h 3NT|pg|| nt|ritong: i mean, if you do that with a six carder, it surely would be this hand|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT more successful this time. However, difficult for North to know it is best to give partner the choice, as there are hands partner would pass 3NT and be wrong.|pg|| nt|kit: I do agree that if ever it is right to take that route with a 6-bagger, North has the hand for it.|pg|| nt|3for3: I think Meckwell have a way of insisting on 4M opposite 3 card support, and Rodwell didn't choose it here...|pg|| nt|kit: whether 2 or 3-card support isn't too important. It is whether or not there is a weak suit which is iimportant.|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: long think by Zia|pg|| nt|ritong: will know his fate soon going only down one would win the board not clear he can do that|pg|| nt|ritong: loses 2@ss and 3 @hs basically|pg|| nt|ritong: let s see what happens|pg|| nt|ritong: the lead was @c3 people are reluctant to lead from xxx so we can assume west has 5 @cs|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: rather lucky @hs are done that way|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKJ42H92DAQJCAJ82,SAQ83HD8432C97653,S975HAJT873DK6CKT,ST6HKQ654DT975CQ4|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: sorry it was @d3 LEAD == even easier|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1N = 14-16 // 4@D Texas Transfer to 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: I think had Reese played back a diamond honor at trick 2 Eric would need to play low to make the last hand|pg|| nt|ahollan2: or was @D3 clearly shortness? could be 3rd |pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|ahollan2: levin did continue @D|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SHAT94DA8653CQ532,SQJ7432H52DK9CK87,SAKT6H7DQJT72CAT9,S985HKQJ863D4CJ64|sv|o|nt|chip: first imps to lall|pg|| nt|ritong: this line fails with a normal split, no?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c5|nt|chip: NS can beat this 800 but have to be a bit careful|pg|| nt|3for3: might be even worse if Levin goes wrong here|pg|| nt|chip: if hops k can be 1100|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room operator said that meck indicated his DBL was penalty|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in which case rodwell's 4@D seems strange [to me]|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|chip: zia sensibly establishing club tricks before h ruffs|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|nt|vugraphzff: director in to inform room NS have been slow|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: N disagrees|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Monitor will confirm|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SHAT94DA8653CQ532,SQJ7432H52DK9CK87,SAKT6H7DQJT72CAT9,S985HKQJ863D4CJ64|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|3H|nt|ahollan2: sooooo much to discuss here |pg|| nt|ahollan2: where to start|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|MEDWARDS: Does anyone know why Katz and Nickell did not start Segment one? Have they changed their thinking?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: yes they are playing 2 and 3|pg|| nt|MEDWARDS: THX|pg|| mb|4S|nt|ahollan2: normally DBL after partner "opens" NT is takeout|pg|| nt|ahollan2: should that be the case here too??|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: meck sure whould have liked penalty|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: penalty here|pg|| nt|ahollan2: rodwell pulled penalty dbl?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Meck indicated penalty|pg|| nt|ahollan2: well at least i am glad to hear DBL was penalty|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i assumed penalty until rodwell bid 4@D|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAT98H985D643CT83,S7643HQ32DQ87CA52,S2HKJT4DAT52CQJ76,SKQJ5HA76DKJ9CK94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|3for3: NS cards says double is 4M, 5m BPH, Pepsi took some liberties|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|ritong: and will pay dearly for it although board was heavily lost already when bobby passed 1NT|pg|| nt|3for3: EW went for 800 in other room, so big gain coming here|pg|| pc|c6|nt|chip: my partner tried this same thing recently, but e had Kxxxx to pass the double|pg|| nt|chip: ok|pg|| nt|3for3: A little dangerous to balance,as partner is marked with spade length...|pg|| nt|MrAce: Hi all |pg|| nt|ritong: hey timo|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h8|nt|MrAce: I see these guys started swinging early this match :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|ritong: hands are not bleak indeed|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: no fast play here by anyone|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAT98H985D643CT83,S7643HQ32DQ87CA52,S2HKJT4DAT52CQJ76,SKQJ5HA76DKJ9CK94|sv|e|mb|1D!|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Rod was unsure about penalty dbl|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|shuster: That's a lot of bidding E/W. N/S issue a speeding ticket|pg|| nt|MEDWARDS: Perfect mirror not good for offense.|pg|| mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|MEDWARDS: Be a heavy fine|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: certainly some heavy body blows here early but with 120 boards there is a long way to go|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan2: 8 levin in 3@SX|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c5|mc|7|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQ93HA86DJ652CA93,SK82H942DKT7CKT82,SJT76HQ5DQ94CQJ54,SA54HKJT73DA83C76|sv|b|nt|vugraphzff: 20 minutes behind on the clock|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ritong: 1@h pass 2@h end looks ok|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ritong: usually there is some resistance with this auction, but here south hand is really beurk for a reopening|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|9|nt|ritong: beurk = ugly|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQ93HA86DJ652CA93,SK82H942DKT7CKT82,SJT76HQ5DQ94CQJ54,SA54HKJT73DA83C76|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ahollan2: here's a new story line -- director was just in open room to tell Zia-Pepsi that their play is slow|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I think Pepsi has read two novels so far this week|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s7|nt|ahollan2: in which language?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|Vugraphzfe: anytime he's dummy he reads|pg|| nt|ahollan2: there are a few who are known for reading when dummy i can think of matt granovetter and i think sometimes chip martel|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: yes Chip does|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1STHQJ652DAK872CK8,SAQJ872H43DJCT965,S96HAKDQ653CAQ432,SK543HT987DT94CJ7|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ritong: 6@d is a jewel here|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: but...|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: asked in other room 1@H-2@S-DBL-4@S what does it mean if opener now bids 4N|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|MrAce: not easy to cue here for N w/o stepping his foot on game in opener's suit|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i guessed continuation of 4N-5@C-5@D = 6@H 4@D but other think it should be slam try [stronger than immediate 5@D]|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1STHQJ652DAK872CK8,SAQJ872H43DJCT965,S96HAKDQ653CAQ432,SK543HT987DT94CJ7|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|ahollan2: 1@H = 10-15|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan2: dbl = normal negative dbl did not want to over-emphasize @C|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S975HQ65DJ974CKJ6,SAT843HAKT3DAKQC9,SQJ6H974DT853CQ87,SK2HJ82D62CAT5432|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|3for3: 3@C their way of showing 54 Jumps|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|MrAce: 7@H :)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chip: not a likely contract, without a wire|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|MrAce: i know that is why i put a smiley next to it :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S975HQ65DJ974CKJ6,SAT843HAKT3DAKQC9,SQJ6H974DT853CQ87,SK2HJ82D62CAT5432|sv|n|nt|ahollan2: and as you see here that allowed meck to bid @D after 4@S|pg|| nt|shuster: I wonder if maybe South could have shown a "good" 5@D call by starting with 4NT|pg|| nt|shuster: then correcting clubs to @D's.... or maybe that would show something like 6=4 in the reds|pg|| mb|1S|an|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: maybe that would show 6@H 4@D|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|ahollan2: but interesting partnership discussion about what opener's 4N can/should be|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|an|force|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: not sure how many hand types included in artificial 3@C|pg|| nt|ahollan2: but 3@D asked|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: possible semantics issue 3@D might be FORCED rather than "asking"|pg|| nt|shuster: that 3@C bid usually has 3-types. 5=4 majors, 1-suited GF spades and strong with clubs|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| nt|shuster: 3@D asks and 3@H shows 5=4 (direct 3@H would be 5-5) 3@S shows spades and 3NT+ is clubs|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan2: most comments support what i would have guessed -- matching michael's description|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|ahollan2: GIB laughing at human's inability to bid cold 7@H|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|shuster: I first saw it being played by Greco/Hamson, although I don't know who started using it first|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S4H532DT53CA86542,SJT6HKQJ6DQ96CT73,SK8753H97DAJ72CK9,SAQ92HAT84DK84CQJ|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|3for3: Big ten of clubs|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|chip: valuable club T in W. otherwise 3 down if S had it.|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|chip: Then EW would regret not playing 4H.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ritong: are you advocating a stayman, chip?|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S4H532DT53CA86542,SJT6HKQJ6DQ96CT73,SK8753H97DAJ72CK9,SAQ92HAT84DK84CQJ|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 11 [5@DS+1] 1@H-2@S-DBL-3@S//4@D-P-4@H-end|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SKQ4HKQT6DAK84C62,SAJT32H8DJCAQ9875,S98765HJ32D9753CK,SHA9754DQT62CJT43|sv|o|mb|p|nt|chip: no, just noting that small factors can determine the best contract.|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ritong: true|pg|| nt|ritong: i had to ask, because our intermediate / advanced audience might have had a doubt|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|MrAce: 2 NT is? |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i thought 2N = 4@H and longer minor|pg|| nt|3for3: 2NT a big 2 suiter?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but recent change |pg|| nt|MrAce: probably big 2 suiter|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i only saw updates to bids thru 2@S|pg|| nt|3for3: EW CC shows double as 4M, longer m|pg|| nt|chip: My real point was that choosing between 3N and 4M often depends on largely random factors of exactly how honors mesh.|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: points on both side of the table, no written alerts|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: minors or big 2-suiter is much more standard|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: get the point|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ACBL CC for this event does show the new agreements for bids over 1N [but not 2N]|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: Levin " uncharted waters"|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/system/woolsey.html|pg|| nt|ahollan1: winds blew them to island paradise|pg|| nt|ritong: uncharted, maybe but this looks icecold|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ritong: and counting, now|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|cJ|pc|sK|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SKQ4HKQT6DAK84C62,SAJT32H8DJCAQ9875,S98765HJ32D9753CK,SHA9754DQT62CJT43|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan2: 1@C=16+unbal or 17+BAL|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|ahollan2: EW only play Mathe over strong 1@C so there is no immediate bid to show black 2-suiter|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|h4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan2: confess if forced to bid 2@C originally i would have continued with 4@S here|pg|| nt|ahollan2: or at least 5@C|pg|| nt|ahollan2: can someone run a quick simulation?? how often is it right to stop at exactly 4@C|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cT|nt|MEDWARDS: Think four spades is a stand out bid|pg|| nt|ahollan2: gilbert & sullivan: never ... what never? ... never ... what never? ... well hardly ever|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: has bridge commentary ever included gilbert & sullivan quote?|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA842HQJ53DJ85CKJ,SQJ5HA972D74CT875,ST976H8DQT632CQ64,SK3HKT64DAK9CA932|sv|n|nt|chip: yes, it is. Should note that Nickell is playing their strongest lineup this set and Lall is not.|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|MrAce: Good set for team Nickell|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ritong: this time pepsi will give up i guess|pg|| nt|ritong: or not|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: schedule has restart at 25 past the hour, but they can agree to start earlier|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: 2NT initiates an encouraging move|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: weinstein will cooperate, for sure|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ritong: tough layout however, identical other room|pg|| nt|MrAce: even with 3-2 @H break they are short of a trick in 4@H|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: table caught up|pg|| nt|ahollan1: do you think levin sequence differentiated 4@H from 5-card suit via immediate 3@H|pg|| nt|ritong: no|pg|| nt|vugraphzff: next session at 12:25 houston time|pg|| nt|chip: 4H is a normal pushy game with little play|pg|| nt|MrAce: it sure isdifferent than direct 3@H but idk what it is |pg|| nt|ritong: i think it differentiate pure competition from game interest|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ritong: in a sense, pure competition would be based on five carder|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|ritong: nine trumps, etc|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary -- adam parrish says levin sequence was just competitive immediate 3@H would be stronger hand|pg|| nt|MrAce: i am told by Michael Rosenberg that direct 3@H = game try |pg|| nt|ahollan1: adam is keeper of EW system notes - so we should believe him|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ritong: well i surrender no sweat|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|h7|mc|8|nt|ritong: i would be different my side of the ocean, that s all:)|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA842HQJ53DJ85CKJ,SQJ5HA972D74CT875,ST976H8DQT632CQ64,SK3HKT64DAK9CA932|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: snot to my knowledge Al|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: not|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: nebulous @D being passed is rare|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|MEDWARDS: Got it wrong again. Might be duplicated however|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: nice endplay for dn 1 after 3s and 2 d c and c|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan2: oh last board of the eigth|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: only match so restart after slow table has a break|pg|| nt|ahollan2: they are on 14 now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: likely 12:25p|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cdt|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|ahollan2: other table starting 15 now|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan2: schedule has restart at 25 past the hour, but they can agree to start earlier|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|mc|8|pg||