vg|Practice match Open teams NET-FRA,8_8,I,1,12,Netherlands,354,France,464| rs|4SE=,4SE+1,3DN=,4HW-2,5CW-2,3HNx-2,1NN+1,1NN=,4HW=,4HW=,2SE=,2SE+1,3NN-1,3NN-1,3NN+1,3NN+1,3CN+1,3DE-2,4HS-1,4HS+1,4HS+1,4HS+1,6SW-1,6SW-1| pn|vLankveld,Combescure,vanDenBos,Rombaut,Lorenzini,Nab,Sebbane,BobDrijver|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S63HA42D2CAJ98654,SK97HQJ753DAK97C7,SQ82HT986DJT43CQT,SAJT54HKDQ865CK32|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: would you bid 2@h with west?|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: or just make a @s-raise|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i would splinter 4@C|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: i would show a spade raise, in case north raises @C high|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ahollan2: but don't object to 2@H since only 3@S|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: Rombaut asking about leads: 4th best; high from 2 small|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S63HA42D2CAJ98654,SK97HQJ753DAK97C7,SQ82HT986DJT43CQT,SAJT54HKDQ865CK32|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|sT|pc|hA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAQJ6HQJ65DK3CJ72,S974HAT972DQCAQT5,ST2H3DJT7642CK963,SK853HK84DA985C84|sv|n|mb|1N!|nt|vugraphzdu: 1NT = 9-12|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|vugraphzdu: 2@h = natural, NF|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 1N ranges for EW [nv] 1/2: 9-12 3rd:13-15, can be weaker [vul/4th] 15-17|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|vugraphzdu: both North and South writing down the meaning of 2NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: 3@d now = not-invitational with @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan2: i think after weak NT - DBL [penalty] NS treat 4th hand actions as if partner had opened 1N|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so van den Bos using transfer lebensohl|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan2: where immediate 3-level bid = INV+ in next suit|pg|| nt|ahollan2: so 2N covers @C OR non-invite|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: dennis already covered the non-invite but i couldn't stop typing|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAQJ6HQJ65DK3CJ72,S974HAT972DQCAQT5,ST2H3DJT7642CK963,SK853HK84DA985C84|sv|n|mb|1N!|an|10-12|mb|d|mb|p!|nt|ahollan1: 3 ranges for EW 1N openers nv: [1/2] 10-12, bad 10 can pass [3/4] 12-14 vul: (good 14)15-17 |pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: whoa|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i should pay attention to the play, but wondering how many partnerships have discussed 4th hand action after 3rd hand PASS=forcing |pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQ965HK763DQ97CT9,SAJ73HDJT653CAK65,SKTHJT852DAK82CJ3,S842HAQ94D4CQ8742|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S!|nt|vugraphzdu: 1@d = 3+@d|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 1@s = 0-3@s |pg|| mb|3H|mb|4C|nt|ahollan2: would 1N = @C?|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: van den Bos thinking here|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan2: was one of the thoughts - lead trump|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: not a lot of quick losers, but will he have 11 tricks?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: it's combescure thinking|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: looking at the 3rd table, Bessis doesn't seem happy with the dummy he gets on a board|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|cA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzdu: 5th heart will promote @c 10|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQ965HK763DQ97CT9,SAJ73HDJT653CAK65,SKTHJT852DAK82CJ3,S842HAQ94D4CQ8742|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|3H|nt|ritong: choice between 2@h and 3@h|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: 2@h might take the pot, so it is a real problem|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@h preempts better when opener has a good hand, of course|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ritong: is the @d7 confirmed, operator? i find it a bit surprising|pg|| nt|vugraphzgt: Yes that one I'm really sure about, I'm only not sure about the first discard of W|pg|| nt|ritong: okay thanks|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|vugraphzgt: Now im pretty sure it wasnt diamond 3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ritong: likely his higher @d spot to show @s pref|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzgt: Probably|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ75HJT73DK97CT76,SQ8HAQ5D832CJ9853,SKT432HK2DT65CAKQ,SA96H9864DAQJ4C42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: switch: low = encouraging|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h8|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ75HJT73DK97CT76,SQ8HAQ5D832CJ9853,SKT432HK2DT65CAKQ,SA96H9864DAQJ4C42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ritong: the eternal 1NT or not with a 5M|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: when playing gazzilli 1N has 5-card major less often than in north america where gazzilli is uncommon|pg|| nt|ritong: it s true that artificial 2@c rebid can cover 1NT range|pg|| nt|ritong: so that opening 1M is less problematic|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: bocchi has talked about that subject a lot|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S54H764DQT973CK74,SQ92HAJT5DKCJT532,SA763H92DJ842CA86,SKJT8HKQ83DA65CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|vugraphzdu: EW open 9-12 NT in this position|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: so 2@h is 13-15 with 4@h|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: if bal|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S54H764DQT973CK74,SQ92HAJT5DKCJT532,SA763H92DJ842CA86,SKJT8HKQ83DA65CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing, 2+@C|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+suit, maybe longer @D, 7+ hcp actually 8+ in this situation where opening 1N would be 10-12|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S54HAKJ54DQ954CT8,SQTHQ2DAJ6CJ97654,SJ976HT7DKT73CQ32,SAK832H9863D82CAK|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzdu: 2@h overcall or not? |pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: Lorenzini says Yes, van Lankveld No|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|vugraphzdu: I'm in the Yes camp, with 54 and good @h suit|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: we might have a good save at this vulnerability as well|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 1st discard: lavinthal (suit-preference)|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: van den Bos thinking|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: van den Bos disappointed van Lankveld didn't have @h 9 as well|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S54HAKJ54DQ954CT8,SQTHQ2DAJ6CJ97654,SJ976HT7DKT73CQ32,SAK832H9863D82CAK|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|d8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1ST7HA63DJ74CA9864,SA964HQ952D932C73,SK32HKT4DAQ85CK52,SQJ85HJ87DKT6CQJT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAKQ7H53DKJ63CAJ8,S84HJ974DAT8CQT32,ST93HAK86DQ95CK54,SJ652HQT2D742C976|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@C = forcing, 2+@C|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 1@S = 7+ hcp, can have longer @D|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan2: 2@D = art FG|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: 2@H = 4@H, maybe 3@S [as you can see]|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: if you and partner play 2-way checkback -- make sure you agree about opener's priority when holding BOTH 3-fit and 4 of other major|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahollan2: no absolute right answer - just need to agree|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAKQ7H53DKJ63CAJ8,S84HJ974DAT8CQT32,ST93HAK86DQ95CK54,SJ652HQT2D742C976|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAK6HJT765DQ3CT52,ST9852HAQ98DT74CJ,S73HK2DKJ2CKQ9864,SQJ4H43DA9865CA73|sv|e|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan2: final board :(|pg|| mb|1D|nt|vugraphzdu: yes, final board of this practice match|pg|| mb|d|an|4+!h|nt|ahollan2: i think it is great that dutch bridge federation hosts these practice matches|pg|| nt|ahollan2: we've seen some good stuff over the past few years|pg|| nt|ahollan2: thanks so much Dennis|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|vugraphzdu: DBL = 4+@h|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 2@c will deny 3-card @h|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: ok thanks all for watching|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: thanks Al for the commentary|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: special thanks to the Dutch bridge federation for hosting and broadcasting this match|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzdu: bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAK6HJT765DQ3CT52,ST9852HAQ98DT74CJ,S73HK2DKJ2CKQ9864,SQJ4H43DA9865CA73|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|dK|pc|d5|mc|7|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SA642HKJ752D32CAQ,ST753HQDQ654CK962,SK9HT986DAJ8C8543,SQJ8HA43DKT97CJT7|sv|b|nt|vugraphzdu: hello everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: welcome to the final set of this practice match between the open teams of the Netherlands and France|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|vugraphzdu: 3@c = 6-9 with 4@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: van Lankveld taking his time|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: probably thinking about 4@h or a try with 3@d|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: 3@d = invitational, any hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: van den Bos accepts because he has an Ace and King|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan2: sorry i'm late 3@C = [3M-2] 4-fit, 6-9|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 3rd/5th leads for EW, but 2nd from 4 small|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan2: before i forget -- Dennis, please thank the organizers i always enjoy the test matches from the netherlands|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan2: and thanks to you and mette as our operators|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: I will thank the Dutch bridge federation|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: Mette and Yvonne (the invisible table)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: interesting @h situation|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: of course finessing the Queen is best|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: but if you need a swing, like if you're down a lot in a knock-out set you might play a heart to the King|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: picking up @hQ and @h Qx offside|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SA642HKJ752D32CAQ,ST753HQDQ654CK962,SK9HT986DAJ8C8543,SQJ8HA43DKT97CJT7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: hefty raise with 4-fit|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|cQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|h2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h5|mc|11|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA76HAK74DK82CJT5,SKQ43HQJ6DJ9C9876,SJH953DAT764CAKQ4,ST9852HT82DQ53C32|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: 1NT = 15-17|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: 2@s = range-ask, according to their convention card|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 2NT = minimum|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: 1NT-3@s supposedly shows shortness, I would have expected North to bid that|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: but maybe they made some detailed agreement about this sequence|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: 2@s as either an invite (for 3NT) or clubs is an option|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: then 2@s - any - 3@s would be long @c with @s shortness|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: van Lankveld now writing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdu: seems like they play 2@s = either inv or both minors|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: so 3@s shows @s shortness with both minors|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2@S = Range ASK a) BAL, INV, not 4@H/@S b) @c & @d c) 6@d, weak|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 2N = min|pg|| nt|ahollan2: 3@S = FG, (5+/4+) @C & @D, short M|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: Al, do you know how they bid strong hands with long clubs and shortness?|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraphzdu: is that the immediate 1NT - 3M?|pg|| nt|ahollan2: they start with 2@C|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: ah, ok|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: I hear 1NT - 3M shows typically (14)44|pg|| nt|ahollan2: then 1N-2@C-2any 2N=@C 3@C=@D|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: long @c start with 2@c, then transfer to @c over the response|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|h3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|ahollan2: filling in some gaps 1N-3@D = 44(41) to go with 1N-3M = 3-suit 0/1 in bid major so (41)44 or (40)(54)|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: van Lankveld thinking here|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA76HAK74DK82CJT5,SKQ43HQJ6DJ9C9876,SJH953DAT764CAKQ4,ST9852HT82DQ53C32|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: open room on final board of the event|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think it is great that dutch bridge federation hosts these practice matches|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we've seen some good stuff over the past few years|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: thanks so much Mette|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|sK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SKQTH5DKJT743CQ62,SA97432HAKQJ9DA8C,SH76432DQ92CAKJ73,SJ865HT8D65CT9854|sv|n|nt|ahollan2: great shuffler having fun in the @S suit|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2S!|nt|vugraphzdu: 2@s = @h + @c|pg|| nt|vugraphzdu: nice heart suit|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: if available, is west worth 5@C=exclusion rkc|pg|| nt|ahollan2: i think so|pg|| nt|ahollan2: or even blast 6@S|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan2: got that in just in time :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan2: absolute agree with south's PASS|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan2: DBL risks helping declarer make when normal play would be start with @SA |pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahollan2: gains only 50 when declarer can't make|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SKQTH5DKJT743CQ62,SA97432HAKQJ9DA8C,SH76432DQ92CAKJ73,SJ865HT8D65CT9854|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: this is final board |pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = a) weak, 6@D b) FG, not @d c) BAL, good 22-24 [IF mini-NT then any 22] |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = to play opposite weak 2@D|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = FG, 5+suit |pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 6@S fine contract just great shuffler has sick sense of humor|pg|| pc|cA|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: good luck to both countries in the 2018 european team championship|pg|| nt|ahollan1: where top 8 countries qualify for 2019 bermuda bowl|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2019 is first year where europe gets 8 slots instead of 6|pg|| pg||