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Posted 2005-September-03, 00:50

What does this sequence show and why in SAYC (or 2/1):

1 - pass - 1NT - 2
2 - 3 - pass - pass
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Posted 2005-September-03, 01:01

6, 5 ?

why? this is our board p

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Posted 2005-September-03, 01:04

6C 5S. Very good hand. I would play this as almost a gf. Partner should raise to some game unless all his values are soft red cards.
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Posted 2005-September-03, 20:37

5-6 not a great hand, something like 10 HCP is possible. 2S was non forcing and if west had a good hand he could have bid 3S to begin with.
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Posted 2005-September-03, 21:09

If my partner would bid that way, I think that would tend to mean the end of our partnership :), but then, I am a rare guy.
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Posted 2005-September-03, 22:30

Jlall, on Sep 4 2005, 12:37 PM, said:

5-6 not a great hand, something like 10 HCP is possible. 2S was non forcing and if west had a good hand he could have bid 3S to begin with.

No! With a weak hand you are much better off starting with the S suit, even with 5-6. Look at Kieran Dyke's post on this topic on rgb. Starting with C on a weak hand risks getting pre empted, and possibly even losing the S fit, unless you are prepared to bid 4S when 4H comes around to you.
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Posted 2005-September-04, 10:27

plaur, on Sep 3 2005, 01:50 AM, said:

What does this sequence show and why in SAYC (or 2/1):

1 - pass - 1NT - 2
2 - 3 - pass - pass
3


The full story: Indy, imps, last round.
I talked myself into not opening 2 because:
1) I dislike 2 in indy's. Especially two suiters. The auction often gets uncertain. Is 2 waiting? Is 2 double negative or postive? Etc.
2) I didnt fear roundpass with this distribution
3) I was hoping the actual sequence showed a real reverse and was forcing


3 was passed out and made 11. The horrible auction made 7.4 Imps over the field :-)) Both black suits broke badly and many slams and grands, doubled and redoubled went down.
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Posted 2005-September-04, 20:04

The_Hog, on Sep 3 2005, 11:30 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 4 2005, 12:37 PM, said:

5-6 not a great hand, something like 10 HCP is possible. 2S was non forcing and if west had a good hand he could have bid 3S to begin with.

No! With a weak hand you are much better off starting with the S suit, even with 5-6. Look at Kieran Dyke's post on this topic on rgb. Starting with C on a weak hand risks getting pre empted, and possibly even losing the S fit, unless you are prepared to bid 4S when 4H comes around to you.

OK, I don't agree.
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