[matelda]

Hi there,
what do you think about some players who say " wdp" after a big opps mistake?

[EricK]

If someone says "WDP" whenever their partner makes a contract and "unlucky P" whenever they don't make it, then that's fine with me.

If you say WDP when opponents don't make a mistake and do something else when they do, then you are effectively pointing out to the opponents that in your opinion they made a mistake - and that is rude.

Eric

[han]

When playing with a pick-up partner I usually say wdp after any hand they make, even if I didn't pay attention to the play.

I don't find it rude if opps say wdp after a mistake of mine. But then, I never make mistakes on defense.

[pclayton]

With anyone that's been following the play and has watched the defense hand pard a contract, its rude to congratulate pard. Sometimes pard swindles the opps, but hopefully we are in a game where the opps appreciate the larceny, and then its OK to pat CHO on the back.

I have been guilty of not watching the play, come back to the screen and see a nice result and unwittingly say "WDP".

If the opps chime in and agree, then All is well. Sometimes its greeted with dead silence, and pards embarrased, "uh.....thx". oops

[Winstonm]

I don't think it is usually meant as insulting - more a matter of habit in trying to be nice to pard- I am certainly not critical of any attempt to make the game a less hostile enviroment.

If I did feel slighted, I'd prefer a private message to the opponents - the response and the subsequent actions taken should tell me what type opps I am facing and I can go from there.

Winston

[Free]

It's just plain stupid to say "wdp" when an opponent just messed it up. I don't find it rude, I just know that my opponent is just too dumb... At least give some neutral comment like "nice", it's not insulting and it says what you're thinking

[epeeist]

If I make a bad mistake, and opponent says "wdp" to their partner, am I offended? Of course not. And I'm someone who can get offended easily...

If my opps made a mistake, and I typed "wdp", and opps then asked me whether that was subtle implied criticism of their mistake, I would probably immediately set them as enemy and add profile comment along the lines of "Felt insulted b/c I complimented my p?!!"

[Echognome]

I thought "wpp" was for when you were paying attention and "wdp" was for when you weren't?

[han]

no Matt, wpp is for when you disagree with the bidding but you are glad that partner played it so well.

[EricK]

Isn't it like saying "Thank you partner" whatever he puts down as dummy?

Eric

[matelda]

Well, as far as I am concerned, I never say"wdp" when the opponents give my partner a gift and he makes an unmakeable contract, but I have noticed many players do.That's a lack of sensitity(euphemism), in my opinion.

[Walddk]

You can avoid all this by doing what you do in real life bridge. "Thanks" when you see dummy, and no more.

glp, wdp, gtp, gto, wdo and all that jazz must be internet inventions. I am not much into that I must admit, but I am not saying that mine is the right approach. It is for me though, and I don't think it's rude to say nothing more than that.

ty, typ, thx, thanks, tx (whatever you prefer) when you are declarer should be enough in my opinion. Is there any particular reason why one would add all the above mentioned abbreviations? If you don't, at least you can't offend anyone, which you may do if you say "wdp" when opps make a serious mistake and let the contract through.

Or when declarer misplays the hand and goes down in a rigid contract. wdp, says one opponent. What's the point?

Roland

[luke warm]

a lot of it's just tradition in online bridge, i think... if i make a contract that i shouldn't have made and partner gives me a wdp, i usually say 'thx, i got lucky' or something like that

[kenberg]

The main gripe I have against the everpresent wdp is that partner might think me rude when I don't offer such congratulations, which I only give when I think he made a noteworthy play. For example, partner was playing a small slam and since I could see all the cards I could see 13 tricks were there. He made a surprising play to hold the winners to 12, but when I realized his line guaranteed 12 against any distribution I congratulated him, specifically on that play. Another time, in an indy, the bidding began 1S-P-2S and I, holding 4-4-2-3 shape and a 15 count, ventured a double (it was mps). Partner fortunately chose his 4 card heart suit over his 5 card diamond suit and brought in the contract with a little luck and less than stellar defense. I complemented him and said I had my apologies prepared if he had ended up in a 4-2 diamond fit. This all seems like normal conversation to me and I hope no one is offended.

Over the years I have come to accept "Have a nice day" and I guess I can do the same with wpp. As long as I am not expected to repeat it mindlessly and endlessly myself.

Ken

[shoeless]

Thanks for the topic Matelda - I really need to think about what I want to say in these situations both with regular pards and pick-ups. I think I will make some changes and with my regular pards I will chat with them before our next game about those changes. I certainly think silence on an opps misplay is a thing I will adopt.

[coyot]

I guess wdp is a common courtesy phrase. I always say typ when the dummy appears, no matter what I think about my partner's bidding. I always say wdp when partner finishes a contract succesfully, I always say ntp when he goes down. If he feels he played bad and points out his own mistake, I will agree then.
The same goes for defense - if they screw up, I'm not gonna tell partner "you were lucky to play against such horrible defense" - I'll say wdp.

So, wdp is not rude under any circumstances to me. If partner plays extraordinarily well, I will compliment with a longer phrase, not abbreviation. Wdp is generally thanking for holding the cards, taking the gifts the defense offers and delivering the promised amount of tricks or more :-)

[Brandal]

Walddk, on Aug 28 2005, 04:28 PM, said:

You can avoid all this by doing what you do in real life bridge. "Thanks" when you see dummy, and no more.

glp, wdp, gtp, gto, wdo and all that jazz must be internet inventions. I am not much into that I must admit, but I am not saying that mine is the right approach. It is for me though, and I don't think it's rude to say nothing more than that.

ty, typ, thx, thanks, tx (whatever you prefer) when you are declarer should be enough in my opinion. Is there any particular reason why one would add all the above mentioned abbreviations? If you don't, at least you can't offend anyone, which you may do if you say "wdp" when opps make a serious mistake and let the contract through.

Or when declarer misplays the hand and goes down in a rigid contract. wdp, says one opponent. What's the point?

Roland

While I agree a simple thx or typ should be enough,
in the online world especially with partners "you" don't
play with regularly,the silence tends to feel awkward
if nothing is said after the board is played.

So I usually say wdp when nothing particular happens
and I'm very careful when opps screw up not to offend
them.

Saying wdp after every board is silly,I know,but I think
it's a substitute for not being able to sit at the table F2F
and being able to discuss face to face between rounds.

It's pretty much the same with everyone saying Hi all
or hi opps when new opps arrive,it seems such a small
effort to get the game off in a nice way,yet not everyone
does that.

[Fluffy]

I actually say gl in real life so will do it, never say a word after the board. Not when th eopponents are hearing at least.