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Bidding after preempts

Poll: What do you bid? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

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  2. Dbl (0 votes [0.00%])

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  3. 3S (19 votes [76.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.00%

  4. 4C (leaping Michael's) (6 votes [24.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

  5. Something else (plz explain) (0 votes [0.00%])

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Posted 2005-August-15, 10:25

You hold

Scoring: IMP


and RHO opens 3♦ in first seat.
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Posted 2005-August-15, 10:27

I bid 3 spades
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Posted 2005-August-15, 10:28

toothbrush, on Aug 15 2005, 11:27 AM, said:

I bid 3 spades

Dull, but what else?

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Posted 2005-August-15, 12:50

3♠.

Why is 4♣ leaping michaels? - unless you are playing some of the MisIry stuff.
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Posted 2005-August-15, 12:53

pclayton, on Aug 15 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

3♠.

Why is 4♣ leaping michaels? - unless you are playing some of the MisIry stuff.

Close, 4♣ would be META not MisIry... but that is likely what Mishovnbg would bid with this hand.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 04:32

4♣ is forcing, right? I think I'd bid that. I would prefer to have a better hand, though, and 3♠ is a reasonable alternative. Something to discuss with p.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 04:42

helene_t, on Aug 16 2005, 10:32 AM, said:

4♣ is forcing, right? I think I'd bid that. I would prefer to have a better hand, though, and 3♠ is a reasonable alternative. Something to discuss with p.

I dont think 4C is forcing. But I do agree there is some merits to play 4C as non-leaping Michael. With a long club suit. you can jump to 5C.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 08:41

pclayton, on Aug 15 2005, 07:50 PM, said:

3♠.

Why is 4♣ leaping michaels? - unless you are playing some of the MisIry stuff.

Because that's our agreement... 4♣ = ♣+M, 4♦ = both Majors. The main problem is: is this hand strong enough for a leaping Michael's or not?
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Posted 2005-August-16, 09:00

Very difficult decision but I think I would pass. I have a lot of defensive values in this hand so I don't think I have to take a violent action right now.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 09:20

The idea of 4C showing clubs and a major has some merit as these hands seem to be difficult to describe in std methods.

Although not quite the same situation, i had the following hand last night. RHO opened a weak 2H and I held the following: ♠ KQ9xxx, void, Ax, AQ98x. Reverse the black suit holdings and 4C leaping michaels seemed reasonable. But with the 6th spade I was leery of this bid and selected a simple 2S overall on the belief that, unless P could take some bid or lho raised hearts, I might be walking into a bid misfit. Turned out that discretion was the better part of valor on this particular occasion as it went 2H-2S-Pass-pass-pass. Partner tabled 10 red cards including QJT8x of hearts and 5 yucky diamonds. This such a hand was not unexpected once lho passed 2S. Lucky on this occasion. +110 was the limit of the hand (as I played it). Avoided huge loss due to misfit.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 11:30

luis, on Aug 16 2005, 03:00 PM, said:

Very difficult decision but I think I would pass. I have a lot of defensive values in this hand so I don't think I have to take a violent action right now.

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Posted 2005-August-16, 11:31

We play our leaping michaels calls as strong, and forcing through 4 of a major.

The subject hand is at least an A lite.
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Posted 2005-August-16, 11:52

If we happen to play 4♣ as leaping michaels, and I happen to have the most similar hand to a text book LM I ever had I wouldn't doubt much of it.
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