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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2005-August-14, 13:58

Axx
Axx
KT9
KT9x



x
xxx
Axx
Axxxxx

Bidding went

1NT (2S) 2NT* (X)
3C

all pass

2NT was Lebensohl, no agreement over 3C or the X

3NT was cold. Whose fault was this?
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Posted 2005-August-14, 14:03

both, since you don't make agreements over Dbl...
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Posted 2005-August-14, 14:12

i don't think this is anyone's fault.. you're playing weak nt evidently, south bid leb, you bid 3c, he passed... so what if 3nt was cold *this* time?
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Posted 2005-August-14, 14:29

14-16, but I'd open that 1 15-17 NT with all those 10s
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Posted 2005-August-14, 14:43

I cant say 4 aces and 2 kings is always a cold 3nt (it may be this time, but I bet the odds are against you, just one card adrift on clubs and after a major lead you are probably down, I think 3 clubs is a good contract
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Posted 2005-August-14, 14:59

Lebensohl (and other similar methods) allow you to differentiate between two types of hand - strong and non-strong.

Unfortunately there are three types of hand that you may hold in a competitive auction - weak, invitational and strong - and so you have to decide which two to show. Most of us agree that it's best to have a strong sequence, and so we chose between dropping the weak or invitational single-suited hand.

My choice is to show invitational hands and not have a mechanism to show weak ones - however it would be a stretch (inspired?) to call this one invitational with such poor club pips.

I guess you are probably giving up on the invitational hands (otherwise partner may have shown club acceptance) - both methods are eminently playable but it is just worth checking you have the same agreement :blink:

I wouldn't be too worried about missing this game.

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Posted 2005-August-14, 16:19

Nobodys fault.

2NT was bid with the intention to sign off in 3C?

This let to a perfect part score. wtp?

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