[Double !]

Back to the hand at issue, (or is it "issue at hand"?)

What, if anything, would be the difference between an immediate bid of 3S over the redbl, and a pass followed by a correction to spades after P takes action. I have my own suspicions, but not sure if they are consistent with other people's interpretations.
TIA

DHL

[the hog]

The X is very aggressive and not my style, the 3S bid is automatic, the 4S bid is off with the pixies.

(Thought I'd better post this in case others thought I was your partner on this hand).

[helene_t]

42, on Aug 12 2005, 05:50 PM, said:

I was thinking whether I promised more than I had because I also could have been passing to express weakness (??), partner can bid on after the XX, say 3♥, and I can show my ♠s then. I wondered if I mislead him though the XX should have been a warning.

No, if East made a bid you must pass to show weakness, but after a business redouble you must bid as you did, pass would leave the choice to parter.

It is true that since you have spades you willprobably get a chance to bid them even if you pass, but that is not the standard way of showing a weak hand with spades. You can make the agreement that pass-and-correct is stronger than a dirrect bid, in the unlikely event that you have a strong hand after the rdbl.

[Brandal]

helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:

I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.

I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.

Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.

[helene_t]

Brandal, on Aug 13 2005, 01:26 PM, said:

helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:

I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.

I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.

Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.

3♥ would work better than dbl if partner has four spades and three hearts. But he could also have one or zero hearts. Or two hearts and five spades. Or 3226.

I haven't done any simulations but I would be surprised if 3♥ turned out to be more succesful in the long run than dbl.

I agree with other posters that pass is better than dbl, though.

[Brandal]

helene_t, on Aug 13 2005, 06:33 AM, said:

Brandal, on Aug 13 2005, 01:26 PM, said:

helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:

I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.

I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.

Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.

3♥ would work better than dbl if partner has four spades and three hearts. But he could also have one or zero hearts. Or two hearts and five spades. Or 3226.

I haven't done any simulations but I would be surprised if 3♥ turned out to be more succesful in the long run than dbl.

I agree with other posters that pass is better than dbl, though.

I also agree with pass,not a good hand for
entering the 3 level vuln.