Back to the hand at issue, (or is it "issue at hand"?)
What, if anything, would be the difference between an immediate bid of 3S over the redbl, and a pass followed by a correction to spades after P takes action. I have my own suspicions, but not sure if they are consistent with other people's interpretations.
TIA
DHL
preempt x xx ? whose action was the worst?
#22
Posted 2005-August-12, 19:45
The X is very aggressive and not my style, the 3S bid is automatic, the 4S bid is off with the pixies.
(Thought I'd better post this in case others thought I was your partner on this hand).
(Thought I'd better post this in case others thought I was your partner on this hand).
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#23
Posted 2005-August-13, 03:02
42, on Aug 12 2005, 05:50 PM, said:
I was thinking whether I promised more than I had because I also could have been passing to express weakness (??), partner can bid on after the XX, say 3♥, and I can show my ♠s then. I wondered if I mislead him though the XX should have been a warning.
No, if East made a bid you must pass to show weakness, but after a business redouble you must bid as you did, pass would leave the choice to parter.
It is true that since you have spades you willprobably get a chance to bid them even if you pass, but that is not the standard way of showing a weak hand with spades. You can make the agreement that pass-and-correct is stronger than a dirrect bid, in the unlikely event that you have a strong hand after the rdbl.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#24
Posted 2005-August-13, 05:26
helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:
I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.
I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.
Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.
"Never argue with fools, they'll drag you down to their level, and then, beat you with experience"
#25
Posted 2005-August-13, 05:33
Brandal, on Aug 13 2005, 01:26 PM, said:
helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:
I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.
I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.
Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.
3♥ would work better than dbl if partner has four spades and three hearts. But he could also have one or zero hearts. Or two hearts and five spades. Or 3226.
I haven't done any simulations but I would be surprised if 3♥ turned out to be more succesful in the long run than dbl.
I agree with other posters that pass is better than dbl, though.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#26
Posted 2005-August-13, 10:45
helene_t, on Aug 13 2005, 06:33 AM, said:
Brandal, on Aug 13 2005, 01:26 PM, said:
helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 05:00 AM, said:
I disagree. Dbl might not be an expert bid but it makes some sense. With a nice hand and only two cards in the enemy suit, pass is risky, and 3♥ would surely be insane.
I fail to see how 3H is insane and dbl ok on this
hand.
Partner likely to bid 3S on a 4 card does not
appeal to me when I can show him a 5 card
on the 3 level instead of the 4 level.
3♥ would work better than dbl if partner has four spades and three hearts. But he could also have one or zero hearts. Or two hearts and five spades. Or 3226.
I haven't done any simulations but I would be surprised if 3♥ turned out to be more succesful in the long run than dbl.
I agree with other posters that pass is better than dbl, though.
I also agree with pass,not a good hand for
entering the 3 level vuln.
"Never argue with fools, they'll drag you down to their level, and then, beat you with experience"

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