[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 Pass  Pass  Pass  1♦
 Pass  1♠    Pass  2♣
 Pass  2NT   Pass  3♠
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

Hi can you tell me what you think of 1!D opening

and what you think of my decision not to bid 2 spades , but I chose to bis 2 clubs

and what you thought of my 3 spade bid please

and anything you think is rellevant

thanks

[david_c]

1♦ is fine. Personally I'd have opened it 1♣.

I think it's become more or less standard nowadays to raise to 2♠ on this hand rather than rebidding in clubs. Bidding 2♣ and then supporting spades would show a stronger hand. That means, your 3♠ bid here should have been forcing!

[the hog]

Open 1D and raise 1S to 2S, wtp?

[Fluffy]

david_c, on Aug 11 2005, 10:44 PM, said:

I think it's become more or less standard nowadays to raise to 2♠ on this hand rather than rebidding in clubs.

You don't visit these forums enough

1♦+2♣ is ok, 1♣+2♣ is ok since the suit is good, for beginners I would recomend just stick to 1♣+2♣ even if the ♣ is bad. It saves more headaches.

[Gerben42]

I like 1♦. I would have opened 1♦.

About the 2♣: I would've raised to 2♠ IF and only if partner would possibly expect a raise on 3 cards. Otherwise, 2♣. I'm not in love with the 2NT bid. 2♦ is enough in my opinion.

[Free]

I'd bid 1m-1♠-2♠.

Whatever minor you open, I can agree with since they're both good and ♣s are rebiddable. However, after a 1♠ bid from partner, 2♠ is imo much better than showing your minor suit holding.

[mgtusi]

Opening 1♦ instead of the normal 1♣ wasn't made on the purpose to rebid 2♣ ?

So 2♣ seems a coherent rebid

But, what is the problem with 1♣ opening and 2♣ rebid over 1M response ?

I will add that I completely disagree with North 2NT ! The game is very unlikely and NS are white, so be happy with a partial contract

I would bid 2♦ over 2♣, my partner described a 54+ minor

But what is wrong about that good (old fashioned perhaps) sequence :

1♣-1♠-2♣-PASS follow by 3♣ over the likely balancing in ♥?

[Blofeld]

When supporting with three cards, the important thing (though not obligatory, according to agreements) is to have a shortage somewhere, so that ruffs can be taken in your hand. Trump quality is also nice, but less so.

Personally I don't like the style of opening 1♦ on this sort of hands. It makes it harder for partner to judge where the hand will best play. Do those who play it drop false preference on the auction 1D - 1M - 2C - ?

[Walddk]

I am a strong believer in opening my longer suit, so 1♣ is clear to me. Automatic 2♠ raise on my next turn. Excellent spot.

Roland

[FrancesHinden]

Oh dear, I agree completely with Roland again....

As a side point, your 3S bid should be forcing. But accordingly it shows a better hand - something too good to raise 1S to 2, say

AJx
x
AKxxx
KQ10x

[Walddk]

FrancesHinden, on Aug 12 2005, 02:07 PM, said:

Oh dear, I agree completely with Roland again....

Maybe third time lucky if you read on

Roland

[Brandal]

sceptic, on Aug 12 2005, 04:57 AM, said:

I opened 1 diamond with the intent purpose of bidding 2!C as a planned rebid, I did not like 1nt as a rebid as I am not balanced

(Correct me if I am wrong here) diamond first then 2C has to be more informative, than club and 2 club rebid, or will this lead me to problems (as I may have lied about length in suit

I do have an agreement to support with 3, with my p for a 2 spade bid, but it needs to be a good 3 (so that sort of ruled that out)

I would open 1C and plan to rebid 2C.

Reason is I expect partner to either respond
1D with D suit,or 1M then bid D over my 2C
with 5M-4D holding.

Guess it's a matter of style and agreements.

[Free]

I've just been thinking of something. Opening 1♣ is probably best on this hand. You always have a decent rebid:

1♣ - 1♦
2♦

1♣ - 1♥
1♠ on a 3 card

1♣ - 1♠
2♠

1♣ - 1NT
2♣

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I dont like 1D, and I would also not have raised 1S to
2S, but I can understand, why this is an valid option.

But if you open 1D, then raise to 2S, because, you
will most likely bid 2S in the 3rd round anyway, or
what is your plan, when partner shows preference
for diamonds?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[inquiry]

Open 1C with following plan.

1) Raise 1D to 2D
2) Rebid 1NT over 1H
3) Raise 1S to 2S
4) Rebid 2C or pass over 1NT (your choice).

[helene_t]

I don't like North's final pass. 3♠ is forcing, I think. Presumably she (he?) regretted the somewhat aggressive 2NT bid.

1♦ is ok. I prefer to open 1♣ with this shape unless the clubs are very bad and I can't rebid an off-shape 1NT due to partnership agreements. This is something to discuss with p, of course.

As others have said, you should raise spades immediately.

[Brandal]

helene_t, on Aug 12 2005, 09:03 AM, said:

1♦ is ok. I prefer to open 1♣ with this shape unless the clubs are very bad and I can't rebid an off-shape 1NT due to partnership agreements. This is something to discuss with p, of course.

As others have said, you should raise spades immediately.

I have to disagree with you,I don't think
1D is ok on this hand.

You start off the communication with partner
misinforming him about your hand,
remember it's not all about rebid,it's also
a partner and a final contract to consider.

[luis]

I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.
2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx
3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid, I think 2♠ was more than enough.

[Brandal]

luis, on Aug 12 2005, 09:50 AM, said:

I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.
2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx
3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid, I think 2♠ was more than enough.

I mentioned somewhere I also think it's a matter
of style,but since I would open 1D with 4-4 minor
on this strength,I guess I "have" to open 1C with
4-5 to make a difference?

[luis]

Brandal, on Aug 12 2005, 03:05 PM, said:

luis, on Aug 12 2005, 09:50 AM, said:

I prefer 1♣ to 1♦ but I'm perfectly ok with 1♦ just a matter of style.
2♣ is fine to me I would hate raising with Jxx
3♠ is too much,I don't like the bid,  I think 2♠ was more than enough.

I mentioned somewhere I also think it's a matter
of style,but since I would open 1D with 4-4 minor
on this strength,I guess I "have" to open 1C with
4-5 to make a difference?

The trend I'm seeing among experts is to open 1♣ with 4-4 in the minors or 4-5 as well. As I said it's a matter of style and I see a trend in style that says that opening 1♣ with 4 clubs or 5♣ when you have 4 diamonds is fashionable.