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You ask what the 3♥ bid is and are told first that it's natural and then that it's help suit and then that they don't know. You don't press any further. What is your lead?
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Posted 2005-August-11, 02:11
Finished my first day playing in the Reno Sectional. I have to say that after playing in England for 3 years, I find it quite a culture shock to be playing in the U.S. again. We decided to play in the A flight and couldn't believe that no one alerts their bids or uses the stop card. People ask questions on our alerts whether or not they intend to bid. Partner psyched on one hand and after the board was over the opponent called the director and asked if psyching was allowed in this tournament. This is supposed to be the 1500+ section. Anyway, it will take some getting used to.
You ask what the 3♥ bid is and are told first that it's natural and then that it's help suit and then that they don't know. You don't press any further. What is your lead?
You ask what the 3♥ bid is and are told first that it's natural and then that it's help suit and then that they don't know. You don't press any further. What is your lead?
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Posted 2005-August-11, 03:06
Echognome, on Aug 11 2005, 03:11 AM, said:
Finished my first day playing in the Reno Sectional. I have to say that after playing in England for 3 years, I find it quite a culture shock to be playing in the U.S. again. We decided to play in the A flight and couldn't believe that no one alerts their bids or uses the stop card. People ask questions on our alerts whether or not they intend to bid. Partner psyched on one hand and after the board was over the opponent called the director and asked if psyching was allowed in this tournament. This is supposed to be the 1500+ section. Anyway, it will take some getting used to.
You ask what the 3♥ bid is and are told first that it's natural and then that it's help suit and then that they don't know. You don't press any further. What is your lead?
Scoring: MP
P - (1♠) - P - (2♠)
P - (3♥) - P - (4♠)
All Pass
P - (1♠) - P - (2♠)
P - (3♥) - P - (4♠)
All Pass
You ask what the 3♥ bid is and are told first that it's natural and then that it's help suit and then that they don't know. You don't press any further. What is your lead?
2 of clubs
Not sure if this is ATTACK or SUICIDE.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 03:19
I lead D8.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 03:25
low C is a standout
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Posted 2005-August-11, 05:39
All 4 suits could be right or wrong, I would go for a ♦ without confidence.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 06:03
H10.
I believing, that 3H was help suit, but
would not be surprised, if diamond is
better, you are playing MP, and going safe
may not the worst policy in this situation.
Marlowe
I believing, that 3H was help suit, but
would not be surprised, if diamond is
better, you are playing MP, and going safe
may not the worst policy in this situation.
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-August-11, 07:31
♦, passive, but could easily be wrong...
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Posted 2005-August-11, 07:47
Low club, automatic :-)
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Posted 2005-August-11, 10:28
low diamond, obivous.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 10:55
I'd lead the ♠8. Seems like LHO probably has heart shortage, since he has accepted a natural game try despite my rather large number of decent hearts. I'll try to cut down the ruffs and score some heart tricks. I've found that underleading kings at matchpoints is usually a bad idea, and I don't think this is the time for a passive diamond lead.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 13:02
At the table I would probably lead a trump (giving away the trump suit). I would've liked to know more about what was meant by this partnership by the term "natural, help needed GT" and what the partnership defined as help. It is reasonable to smell a rat, but these days I am concerned about asking for further clarification as being deemed to be UI for partner.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 14:12
In my experience, many people who play "help suit" game tries use the bid only to discourage a lead in the "help" suit, sort of a mini-psyche. So put me down for a ♥ lead.
Luke Gillespie
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Posted 2005-August-11, 15:07
Scoring: MP
Note if you don't lead a heart, it goes away eventually on the clubs. I went for the passive diamond. D'oh.
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Posted 2005-August-11, 16:19
Echog, you are lucky to find a sectional tornament that starts on a Wednesday. Around these parts (Philadelphia) it is almost always friday-saturday-sunday. So if you were here you'd be playing in a club game.
Also, according to the tourny's web site (http://www.acekingqu...m/nextevent.htm) it was a stratified game, meaning that players of all experiences are in the same section.
Here's a link to the ACBL web site for a description of the type of pairs games:
http://www.acbl.org/...plained.html#25
Games are commonly one of "stratified", "flighted" or (yes) "stratiflighted"
A
Also, according to the tourny's web site (http://www.acekingqu...m/nextevent.htm) it was a stratified game, meaning that players of all experiences are in the same section.
Here's a link to the ACBL web site for a description of the type of pairs games:
http://www.acbl.org/...plained.html#25
Games are commonly one of "stratified", "flighted" or (yes) "stratiflighted"
A
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Posted 2005-August-11, 16:28
Slam does not seem that hard to bid. I would think you are still getting a good score.
1) West has an easy 4 card limit raise, even playing junky openings.
2) What the heck was 3h?
3) I guess they accept game tries with JX in help suit
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1) West has an easy 4 card limit raise, even playing junky openings.
2) What the heck was 3h?
3) I guess they accept game tries with JX in help suit
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Posted 2005-August-11, 16:41
just be glad Sid Davidson wasnt directing the tourney(RIP)
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Posted 2005-August-12, 23:54
LukeG, on Aug 11 2005, 03:12 PM, said:
In my experience, many people who play "help suit" game tries use the bid only to discourage a lead in the "help" suit, sort of a mini-psyche. So put me down for a ♥ lead.
that's what I meant by smelling a rat, that the heart bid was phoney.
next time need to trust instincts.
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P - (1♠) - P - (2♠)
P - (3♥) - P - (4♠)
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