[Chamaco]

flytoox, on Aug 10 2005, 09:22 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Aug 9 2005, 03:41 PM, said:

if you are honest, you would also double with

x Jxxx AQJx xxxx

With this hand, you should raise to 4H, showing a semi-preemptive but not suicidal hand. Dbl with this hand is a very bad bid.



Cheers

Hongjun

Playing fitshowing jumps, 4D is not so bad (a 5 bagger wd be better, I know, but still it shows I am not broke, and help pard deciding whether double or bid on if they stick in a 4S bid).

[P_Marlowe]

flytoox, on Aug 10 2005, 04:22 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Aug 9 2005, 03:41 PM, said:

if you are honest, you would also double with

x Jxxx AQJx xxxx

With this hand, you should raise to 4H, showing a semi-preemptive but not suicidal hand. Dbl with this hand is a very bad bid.



Cheers

Hongjun

I have already corrected my response,
on the given auction, Dbl is no option,
because you have a fit.
I choose a bad example to demonstrate
my point, thats all.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[flytoox]

P_Marlowe, on Aug 10 2005, 09:49 AM, said:

I have already corrected my response,
on the given auction, Dbl is no option,
because you have a fit.
I choose a bad example to demonstrate
my point, thats all.

With kind regards
Marlowe

Sry, didnot notice it.

[flytoox]

Chamaco, on Aug 10 2005, 09:43 AM, said:

Playing fitshowing jumps, 4D is not so bad (a 5 bagger wd be better, I know, but still it shows I am not broke, and help pard deciding whether double or bid on if they stick in a 4S bid).

Yes if you are playing fit-showing. But 4D could be easily interpreted as splinter. That would be a disaster:)

[FrancesHinden]

Hannie, on Aug 8 2005, 11:24 PM, said:

You hold AJx AK9xx Kxxx x. You open 1H, hoping for a nice quite action, but no, LHO bids 2S. Partner makes a negative double, what is your call?

I was not playing G/B 2NT. Is there anybody who does play that convention in this particular auction?

You only play G/B 2NT when 2NT is not needed to show a balanced hand.
On this auction, you need a natural 2NT bid to show a minimum balanced hand.

I would bid 3D. On the hand your partner actually has, they will bid 3S over that and we can bid 3NT happily.

[han]

Frances,

I think that partner would bid 3NT, not 3S.

[whereagles]

The trouble with good-bad 2NT is no one seems to be able to write down a CLEAR rule as to when 2NT is good-bad or natural. And making 2NT good-bad here is not a step in the right direction.

[pclayton]

Good / bad only applies in direct auctions.

Playing weak NT, I can see a lot of sound reasons to play 2N as a run out to show a weak hand with 3 direct to show a non-minimum.

Not playing this, I don't expect pard to bid on with 10 or 11, so I just shoot 3N, hoping my positional spade stopper can dam things up. No spade raise on my left is good news too.

I do wonder what I'd do with 18-19 balanced though.

[HeartA]

3♦, then 3N if pd cuebid 3♠.

[errline]

Hannie, on Aug 9 2005, 10:23 AM, said:

At the table partner raised to 3NT and tabled Kx Qx Jxxx KQJ10x.

Is a free bid of 3C with this hand Very Wrong? The clubs are the primary feature of the hand.

How about a bid of 2NT showing at least a semibalanced and spade-stopped 11-12 HCP? With honors in both doubletons it's pretty balanced.

[whereagles]

pclayton, on Aug 15 2005, 05:01 AM, said:

Good / bad only applies in direct auctions.

You can define it like that, if you wish... But bear in mind that for Robson/Segal, the auction

1♥ 2♦ pass pass
dbl pass ??

is a situation of good-bad.

[Al_U_Card]

How about a 3S bid? If pard has the dreaded 8-9 hcp hand with 5C and 3 D, when he refuses NT you correct to D and play there. (At least you can ruff H in dummy.)

When he bids 3NT, you are laughing and when he bids D he will bid them at the right level too.

[Rebound]

My 2 cents FWIW...

You are forced to bid over the double, therefore 3♦ is out since you might as easily have a much weaker hand. As a result, partner will pass with many hands that would make game. The only choices, therefore, are 4♦, 3NT, and 2NT IMO.

Obviously, 4♦ is a stretch since you bypass 3NT but it is nonforcing and may be the best spot when partner has heart and spade shortness and a weakish hand. Still, I don't like it. I don't think 2NT describes your hand any better than 3♦ so I would shoot it out in 3NT.

[pclayton]

Had a weird thought that pass is sensible here too.

Or maybe it just the big dinner I just had - who knows LOL.