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5-5 with no known suit?

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Posted 2005-August-07, 12:30

Just wondering,is it allowed to open a weak 2
explained as 5-5 without 1 of the suits known?

Say open 2D explained as "5-5weak" and you have
5 hearts and 5 clubs?
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Posted 2005-August-07, 12:40

Allowed by who?
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Posted 2005-August-07, 13:15

That's just brown sticker, and depends on where you want to play it...
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Posted 2005-August-07, 16:41

willcoss it is right?, brown sticker, wich doesn't mean it cannot be allowed, I think you have to play a minimum of deals (not sure but the number is between 60 and 100 I think) against the same pair/team for a brown sticker to be allowed normally.
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Posted 2005-August-08, 02:21

inquiry, on Aug 7 2005, 01:40 PM, said:

Allowed by who?

I played in a tourney a long time ago on BBO
and my RHO opened such with such a bid and
explained as 5-5 any suits.

My partner called TD and he "ruled" one suit must
be known,I didn't know then and I don't know now
if that is the case,law-wise.

Or if some federations allow it and others not....

I seem to recall the TD ruling was he skipped the board
(pd called him after the openingbid) and assigned
Average+ for us,and prob ave- for opps.
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Posted 2005-August-08, 02:23

Free, on Aug 7 2005, 02:15 PM, said:

That's just brown sticker, and depends on where you want to play it...

thx Free,and I don't want to play it,just curious
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Posted 2005-August-08, 02:37

No Fluffy this is not Wilkosz. That shows 5/5 with at least one Major.
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Posted 2005-August-08, 04:00

It depends on the rules of the tournaments. If no rules were specified, anything is allowed.

If the director specified that BSCs were not allowed, then this 2♦ opening was not allowed. I think Wilkosz is a BSC allthough it's a matter of interpretation (after all, it promises length in either major so maybe it could be argued that it's just an excotic style-variant of Multi).
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