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How do u bid this hand? Do/Should u get to slam?

#1 User is offline   badderzboy 

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Posted 2005-August-08, 01:49

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Now South passes and West bids 1♣ (Acol natural 4+)

North Doubles...

(I bid 4♥ as South - should I bid something different?)

How / Should do u proceed.

Steve
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Posted 2005-August-08, 02:00

Hi,

I think 4H is a little bit to much, just looking at
your hand, you will see, that the most likely hand
type for North takeout double, will be a strong one
suiter, just ask yourself, how happy you feel, if you
need to play hearts opposite a void or singleton.
=> 1H is enough.

Over 1H, partner will bid 2S, howing a semiforcing in
spades, which you should raise to 4S.
The only alternative to 4S is 4C, which is probably
better and risk free, since you already limited your
hand with the 1H response.
Over 4C I would sign off as North, but I fairly pessimistic,
when it comes to the slam zone.

The slam is magic, there is no dublication, the singleton
opposite the doubleton, AKx opposite xx, the 6 card heart
suit.
And even with magic cards the slam is slight below 50%,
because you need hearts 3-3, the Queen can be with East
and with West.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-August-08, 02:40

Hmm,

Should the dbl promise tolerance for any unbid suit or a v.strong hand in a sinlge suit (likely ♦) and if partner has 2♥ even he must have ♠'s so we have a dbl fit?

If we go slowly will opps find a minor suit game / sacrifice?

Steve
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Posted 2005-August-08, 03:22

Quote P_Marlowe:

"And even with magic cards the slam is slight below 50%,
because you need hearts 3-3, the Queen can be with East
and with West."

15 Hearts in the deck?? Funny game this one. The H hook is likely to be on on the bidding. I wouldn't be worried about missing 6M. 4H is a bit much I would bid 1H and bid 4C over a S bid. You might get to 6M now opposite an aggressive partner. (Doubt it). Clearly over a 4H bid you will end up in 6H.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2005-August-08, 05:58

Just read what Ron says above cos he is right
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Posted 2005-August-08, 05:58

Just read what Ron says above cos he is right :)
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Posted 2005-August-08, 06:14

Agree with the slower approach. If partner happens to have a 18HCP hand on diamonds, he might even have a singleton heart and we've just broken our neck by jumping to game.

With 4HCP, it is very unlikely that 1♥ will be passed around (and if it will, we're in the right contract). If partner now bids his strong diamonds, I show 2♠ (and this shows 5-4 majors and at least 4HCP.

If he bids 1♠ (forcing for one round in our system), I raise by 3♣ - and he will have a good idea of my hand.
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