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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2005-July-30, 17:49

IMPS BOTH VUL

76=KJT5=T853=J62

1NT(15-17)=2H(HEARTS)=2S=??

Partner has bid 2h natural.
Opp. open 1nt.
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Posted 2005-July-30, 17:53

Easy pass

This is not the hand or the scoring methods to show a fit. (My honors are all in partner's suit, which degrades my defensive strength)

Showing a fit will help the opponents to evaluate their hands and might even push them into a miracle game.
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Posted 2005-July-30, 22:09

PASS!!!!

opps haven't bid game, yet.
no need to encourage them to do so.
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  Posted 2005-July-30, 23:33

I'm feeling the wooooooooosh of a fast, timely pass.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 01:44

It helps to know what methods we play; do we have some 2 suited overcall available for example? Pass I guess, but I don't like the question or my answer.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 01:48

Depending on my mood, I might throw in a "natural" 2NT to muddy the waters. Although against good opponents, I'll just quietly pass as I'm not about to fool anyone.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 07:51

Some facts about partner and if lebensohl is in use would be helpful. Knowing the sort of hand my partner would compete with would be helpful. In any case I raise, game is not impossible and especially if opps play leb. My RHO could be bidding 2S on Q5th or 6th and out. Maybe my partner has some 6-4 hand or better. I must admit that raising my allow the opps to reach some thin game, but I also expect to hold the opening lead with K of H and be able to see the best defense. My game is more important than the enemy.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 10:44

pass now, if partner makes another move I'll bid 4.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 20:44

PASS === in tempo hopefully ;) [joke]
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Posted 2005-August-01, 05:20

I like 3H. At least it takes off the possible good raise bid by LHO. Now he has to bid 3S with both min and max hand. If I pass, he can raise to 3S with min hand and 3H to show max hand.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 07:47

Since it is imps, they are unlikely to double 3H and you will be on lead against the S contract so even if they try 3NT, partner's H lead will be welcome. Pard rates to have a 5-6 loser hand so he has a good chance of making 3H. It's a bidders game so 3H is 90% for me.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 08:57

3.

Sorry, I don't get Pass. Why am I throwing 6 IMPs away on this likely partscore swing? Opponents have 8-9 spades and we probably have 9 - 10 hearts. Pard's values are sitting over the NT bidder and points appear to be balanced between the sides.

I think its important that we get pard off to the right lead against any spade contract, even if we don't buy the contract.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 09:35

Presumably, partner has a hand with no more than 6 losers to be coming in over a strong NT. If looks at though 2 of those losers are in spades, and 1 in hearts, so he holds 2-3 losers in the minor suits.

xx,
AQ10xxx
KQxx
x

This looks about right on the auction. I can only see two bids that make sense. Pass or 4H and I think pass is better - not because I would worry about being doubled in 4H but this action might propel the opponents into a "save" that makes. The the other problem is 4S might not be making if the opponents go ahead and bid it after my pass.

Ax
AQ10xxx
Axxx
x

Realistically, this hand is probably a 9/9 hand where both sides can make a partscore, but as they have the boss suit a bid from my hand gives them the option of re-evaluating and bidding game. I wouldn't be concerned about the result of defending a partscore on this hand - I would be about defending a game
so I'm giving as little help to the opponents as possible with Pass - and I hope I did with without giving UI. :P

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Posted 2005-August-01, 12:25

One of my first "lessons" (given by pards who wondered what it might take for me to show support.....) was not to worry about a balancing or competetive bid getting the opps to a makeable game that they were not going to bid themselves. Maybe this is very MP oriented, but pard is way better off to hear your 3H bid than not......
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Posted 2005-August-01, 20:11

matchpoints are a whole different situation. It matters a lot less whether or not I push the opps to a makeable game. If we are being out-bid, we are getting a poor result when the opps go plus when we can go plus be it -170 or -420.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 22:10

pass.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 22:29

3. God gives you strong four card support, show it.

Advantages,
1 - it can still be our hand
2 - it might push them too high
3 - it confuses the spade raises, as it takes away an invitational 3S bid

Disadvantage, it tells LHO that his partner is probably short in hearts.

Note, I use 2NT over 2 here as the game invite, so this 3 is competitive.
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Posted 2005-August-01, 22:37

I like 3H best for reason 3. Opener can't show a super-hand for spades, so bidding 3H might keep them OUT of game!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-August-02, 12:23

Pass might be right, but with such a weak hand, declarer's finesses in 4S will probably fail. I dunno, really. Maybe I just bid what I have then... 3H.
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Posted 2005-August-05, 10:26

3H, showing my support.

I am to dull to bid anything else.

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