[000002]

***************************
###weat north east south###
~~~ 1♥~PASS~3♥@ ~ PASS
~~~ PASS ~3NT

@3h = weak

As u know , north need 3cards+♥, but how many hcpS be ENSURED now?

Thanks

[luis]

This is not a game of points, it's a game of tricks.
There're no points.
If you want an answer I would say North may have

Something like:

x
AQxx
AKQxxxx
x

[000002]

thanks

I forgot to say that 3NT is BOTH minors.
Here are my sry.

THANKS

[000002]

I take a example:
♠ xx
♥ xxx
♦ AQTx
♣ AQTx

is sufficiently to u COMPETE now?

THANKS

[luis]

000002, on Aug 3 2005, 04:05 PM, said:

I take a example:
♠ xx
♥ xxx
♦ AQTx
♣ AQTx

is sufficiently to u COMPETE now?

THANKS

No, it's insane. Any hand that couldn't bid over 1♥ won't be able to bid after 1♥-3♥ passed around. It doesn't make sense.

[P_Marlowe]

000002, on Aug 3 2005, 08:27 AM, said:

***************************
###weat  north  east  south###
~~~      1♥~PASS~3♥@ ~ PASS
~~~    PASS ~3NT

    @3h = weak

As u know , north need 3cards+♥, but how many hcpS be ENSURED now?

Thanks

An impossible auction, there exists no hand,
whith which Norh can bid 3 NT, but passed
over 1H.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[pigpenz]

on a few hands you might be a hero, but in the long run i cant see where this will win in the longrun. Obviously you could balance ove 1♥ p 2♥ pp 2nt if its matchpoints but over 3♥ its suicide, its more likelly that the opps have not bid game.

[000002]

Thanks

if:

♠ x
♥ xxxx
♦ AQTx
♣ AQTx

Could u compete now?

NO hero here, discuss an interest bridge only

thanks

[P_Marlowe]

000002, on Aug 3 2005, 05:24 PM, said:

Thanks

if:

♠ x
♥ xxxx
♦ AQTx
♣ AQTx

Could u compete now?

NO hero here, discuss an interest bridge only

thanks

No, I pass.

Marlowe

[000002]

thaks

why u pass? ur pd ZERO card ♥,but can't overcall 3♠.
opps have 9cards fit now, so we have 8-fit 100%,.
what u worry about ?

thanks

[mike777]

000002, on Aug 4 2005, 11:19 AM, said:

thaks

why u pass? ur pd ZERO card ♥,but can't overcall 3♠.
opps have 9cards fit now, so we have 8-fit 100%,.
what u worry about ?

thanks

I would bid 4nt with your example minor suit hand not 3nt.
Why confuse partner with 3nt?

[Stephen Tu]

Quote

opps have 9cards fit now, so we have 8-fit 100%,.
what u worry about ?

Just because you have 8 card fit doesn't mean you can actually make 4m. You worry about:
- 4m down 1, when 3h was also down 1
- 4m dbl down 2 vs. a partscore
- you push them into making 4H, when you could have just been -170 instead.

Bidding will work out well on occasion, but it's probably anti-percentage.