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Nobody vuln. u deal. You hand is:
KQJ
A953
86
QJ65
Bidding goes:
1Cl - P - 1D - P - 1H - P - 2 Sp
Your turn
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what do u bid? hmmm
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Posted 2005-July-26, 08:17
I have no idea what 2♠ means but anyway, I must probably bid 2NT.
What's the problem, by the way?
What's the problem, by the way?
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Posted 2005-July-26, 08:17
3♠ for me
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Posted 2005-July-26, 09:09
A significant number of players use 2♠ as fourth suit forcing, denying 4 ♠. 1♠ is natural and forcing for one round. I have never understood the benefits of this method, but I suspect that the 2♠ bidder belongs to that group. So I bid 2N... the bid I would make no matter what I thought partner really meant: how can I lose the post-mortem with 2N? 
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Posted 2005-July-26, 09:21
mikeh, on Jul 26 2005, 05:09 PM, said:
A significant number of players use 2♠ as fourth suit forcing, denying 4 ♠. 1♠ is natural and forcing for one round. I have never understood the benefits of this method
The benefits are that 1♠ is always natural and forcing for one round, and not ambiguous as in 4th suit. Accordingly, 2♠ is also only one-way: 4th suit without four spades.
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Posted 2005-July-26, 12:43
Walddk, on Jul 26 2005, 10:21 AM, said:
mikeh, on Jul 26 2005, 05:09 PM, said:
A significant number of players use 2♠ as fourth suit forcing, denying 4 ♠. 1♠ is natural and forcing for one round. I have never understood the benefits of this method
The benefits are that 1♠ is always natural and forcing for one round, and not ambiguous as in 4th suit. Accordingly, 2♠ is also only one-way: 4th suit without four spades.
I am flexible, I play whatever partner is comfortable with.
Roland
I would bid 2NT.
I have a minimum hand with spade stoppers, partner bid the 4th suit albeit via a jump (intermediate 6-3 death hand?), so I feel my first responsibility is to indicate whether or not I have spades stopped. Partner will likely/ hopefully clarify what the heck he meant by his 2S bid with his next bid.
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Posted 2005-July-26, 13:22
I guess I would have opened 1NT (12-14)
Having opened 1C I guess I would have rebid 1NT (12-14)
Having rebid 1H I guess I would next rebid 2NT
Hopefully I intend eventually to get across the balanced nature of my hand :-)
Having opened 1C I guess I would have rebid 1NT (12-14)
Having rebid 1H I guess I would next rebid 2NT
Hopefully I intend eventually to get across the balanced nature of my hand :-)
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
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2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
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Posted 2005-July-26, 14:13
2NT
Partner has probably just used 4th suit forcing and is looking for a Spade stopper from you in order to play in NT.
2 NT describes your hand as a minimum opener with spades stopped. You will probably play in 3NT, but if partner is strong he may start cue-bidding.
Cheers
Partner has probably just used 4th suit forcing and is looking for a Spade stopper from you in order to play in NT.
2 NT describes your hand as a minimum opener with spades stopped. You will probably play in 3NT, but if partner is strong he may start cue-bidding.
Cheers
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Posted 2005-July-26, 14:16
2NT and then we bid 3♠ if that doesn't show 3-4-2-4 then I'm Mary Poppins.
What's the problem with this hand?
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Posted 2005-July-26, 16:59
i'd have opened 1nt or surely have rebid 1nt.. on the given bidding, i'd bid 2nt now but only cause i don't know what 2S means ... if he's 5/6 or something, he'll let me know
... if he's 5/6 or something, he'll let me know
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Posted 2005-July-26, 17:16
scoob, on Jul 27 2005, 12:17 AM, said:
3♠ for me
This would show a 4405 or maybe a 4414 shape, certainly not a flat hand. There is a good argument for bidding 1NT rather than 1H on this balanced shape - it is far more descriptive.
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Posted 2005-July-26, 18:56
haver, on Jul 27 2005, 03:11 AM, said:
Nobody vuln. u deal. You hand is:
KQJ
A953
86
QJ65
Bidding goes:
1Cl - P - 1D - P - 1H - P - 2 Sp
Your turn
KQJ
A953
86
QJ65
Bidding goes:
1Cl - P - 1D - P - 1H - P - 2 Sp
Your turn
Guess you were playing 15-17 NT? (cos I would have opened it 1NT (13-15) )
So having opened it 1♣ I would have bid 1NT not 1♥
However having bid 1♥ I will now bid 2NT (showing a flat hand less than 15) and ♠s stopped
Partner is now in control of the auction with a monster hand it's his responsibility to bid on towards slam
OR just bid game 
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Posted 2005-July-27, 04:22
2 NT, wtp?
assuming 2S is 4th suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
assuming 2S is 4th suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2005-July-27, 11:32
Assuming 2♠ is FSGF, I bid 3NT to show that I am minimum with ♠ doubly stopped and no extra length anywhere. 2NT would show either extras or doubt as to strain.
I would have rebid 1NT instead of 1♥.
I would have preferred to have been able to open 1NT instead of 1♣.
Eric
I would have rebid 1NT instead of 1♥.
I would have preferred to have been able to open 1NT instead of 1♣.
Eric
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Posted 2005-July-27, 13:22
easy 2NT
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Posted 2005-July-28, 06:51
this must be why i don't play 4SF. i would have taken 1♠ as such, and a jump showing a strong 6-5.
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