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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted Today, 07:31

I have been having using AI more and more lately, including help planning a trip to drive across Canada.
I am impressed!

Just for fun, I asked a few bridge questions.

I asked for a hand with 5 diamonds, 4 hearts and 8 hcp.
This is the hand and suggested bidding I was given




I told my AI partner that they were wrong "reversing"

Next I upgraded the hand to 13hcp




AI's explanation:

"2♥: This is now a correct Reverse. Because you are bidding a higher-ranking suit (Hearts) at the 2-level than your opened suit (Diamonds), you are forcing partner to the 3-level if they want to prefer diamonds. This perfectly shows your 16+ "Dummy Points" or 13+ raw HCP with 5-4 distribution, forcing the auction forward."

I'll stick to trip planning but verify the information I am given :)
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Posted Today, 10:33

Consider that many human bridge players struggle to understand the concept of reversing. They almost all get it wrong while they're still learning, other players have to explain the problem, and it still takes a while for them to absorb it.

Meanwhile, generative AI and LLMs are not usually given explicit instruction, they just learn by picking up patterns in Internet texts. Learning the mathematics of reverses this way is clearly difficult.

AI-based bridge robots are not just looking at general text patterns, they're preloaded with some basic bridge concepts like counting points and adjusting for shape. So they should do better than general purpose chatbots.

Maybe Lorand can chime in with more specifics, since he's actually programmed an AI bridge player.

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Posted Today, 15:56

View Postjillybean, on 2026-July-07, 07:31, said:

I have been having using AI more and more lately, including help planning a trip to drive across Canada.
I am impressed!

Just for fun, I asked a few bridge questions.

I asked for a hand with 5 diamonds, 4 hearts and 8 hcp.
This is the hand and suggested bidding I was given




I told my AI partner that they were wrong "reversing"

Next I upgraded the hand to 13hcp




2♥: This is now a correct Reverse. Because you are bidding a higher-ranking suit (Hearts) at the 2-level than your opened suit (Diamonds), you are forcing partner to the 3-level if they want to prefer diamonds. This perfectly shows your 16+ "Dummy Points" or 13+ raw HCP with 5-4 distribution, forcing the auction forward.

I'll stick to trip planning but verify the information I am given :)

You think that second hand is a reverse? I would be reluctant to do it with an additional ace…indeed, I’d open a strong 1N, if available, to avoid the overbid of reversing on a sterile 2=4=5=2 16 count, lol
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Posted Today, 16:42

View Postmikeh, on 2026-July-07, 15:56, said:

You think that second hand is a reverse? I would be reluctant to do it with an additional ace…indeed, I’d open a strong 1N, if available, to avoid the overbid of reversing on a sterile 2=4=5=2 16 count, lol

This was AI's explanation of the call. Not clear in my post sorry, done before heading out the door.
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Posted Today, 17:18

Who is responsible for teaching AI?

Who is responsible for teaching humans or lions and tigers?

Please stop bothering AI, if it wants to learn, let AI teach it..

Humans please stop bothering AI..
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