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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2026-April-22, 18:07



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Posted 2026-April-22, 20:34

3n looks obvious. Soft values in the minors look bad for 4h.
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Posted 2026-April-23, 00:41

3N absent special agreements l(ike Gazzuli or 2NT GF relay?) that would imply 55 majors.
After all, I do have minors well stopped with honors less suitable for suit contracts, and no fit for partner.
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Posted 2026-April-23, 05:50

3NT, what else?
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Posted 2026-April-23, 09:03



TBC
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Posted 2026-April-23, 12:31

View Postjillybean, on 2026-April-23, 09:03, said:

TBC

Not if I am East, I already bid my hand (Pass).
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Posted 2026-April-23, 13:47

I see no reason to bid again wit this very minimal(for the bidding so far) 5431.
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Posted 2026-April-23, 14:07

Does anyone expect more distribution from E? 6-5
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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Posted 2026-April-23, 14:33

View Postjillybean, on 2026-April-23, 14:07, said:

Does anyone expect more distribution from E? 6-5


0.35% even ignoring the existence of a 2♣ opening?
No, and she can always pull my 3NT.
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Posted 2026-April-23, 15:08

View Postjillybean, on 2026-April-23, 14:07, said:

Does anyone expect more distribution from E? 6-5


Without playing a gadget for the actual hand no
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Posted 2026-April-23, 16:50

And a 2nt rebid would show a balanced hand ?
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Posted 2026-April-24, 05:01

View Postjillybean, on 2026-April-23, 14:07, said:

Does anyone expect more distribution from E? 6-5


No.

The question is, how would you bid a 54 hand with 19HCP?
And if your answer is, that you bid 2NT with 5422, you have still 5431
distributions. And 2NT is commonly played as NF.

If you have a bid besides 3H, than obv. you can expect more distribution,
but otherwise no.
There is a reason peoble play ... after a major suit opening and a 1NT response,
and having a way to faster show more distribution is one reason.
If 3H would show more distribution it is commonly played as NF.
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Posted 2026-April-24, 09:13

Playing transfers over 1S-1N
1♠-1N
2♥ 6♠ or Hearts & Spades strong - 2♠ forced
Now you have a whole range of bids to describe further say
2N UB 6♠
3♣ 64xs/62(32)
3♦ SB 5422/6322
3♥ 55xx
3♠ 5413
3N 5431

You can now use 1♠-1NT-3♥ as an intermediate hand with 64xx
You can also fit the intermediate 55s in too.
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