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Bot's poor judgement. DISASTER. better to pass

#1 User is offline   pdmunro 

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Posted 2026-January-30, 17:03

North opens 1S. Pass. Pass. West bot overcalls 1NT.

West needs to pass, rather than overcall 1NT. From the two preceding passes, he knows North has the missing honours sitting over the top of him.

To further compound the disaster, the E robot bids 2H which the W robot takes as a transfer to 2S, North's 5-card suit! N doubles and that is where the bidding ends. 2SWX -3, EW losing 500 points.

This post has been edited by mycroft: Yesterday, 09:48
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Posted 2026-January-30, 19:06

View Postpdmunro, on 2026-January-30, 17:03, said:

West needs to pass, rather than overcall 1NT. From the two preceding passes, he knows North has the missing honours sitting over the top of him.


That's the viewpoint of a results merchant. You'll get stolen blind if you pass out hands like this.

As far as the 2♥ transfer bid into opening bidder's 5 card suit, that's GIB having a short circuit that fried its bridge logic.
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Posted 2026-January-30, 21:56

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That's the viewpoint of a results merchant. You'll get stolen blind if you pass out hands like this.

I wish I could be so sure that bidding is right in these situations, when you know the high points are sitting over the top of you.

The board above was a mishap by the bots. This past Wednesday, I found myself in a somewhat similar situation at the local club.

None vul, it went 1NT (weak) on my left, pass, pass, round to me with a five card spade suit (KT974) and 10 high card points. I bid 2S. Now the opps bid to 3NT with 21 points and made it. Top board for them. Basically, declarer knew the shape and points distribution. And his partner's long clubs came home! He made the off-hand comment, "Some time, you just need to be lucky".

So that's twice in one week. I'm beginning to wonder, whether the bots' bidding and my bidding exhibit similar touches of insanity? Where "Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results".
Peter . . . . AKQ . . . . K = 3 points = 1 trick
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"This is how Europe works, it dithers, it delays, it makes cowardly small steps towards the truth and at some point that which it has admonished as impossible it embraces as inevitable." Athens University economist Yanis Varoufakis
"Krypt3ia @ Craig, dude, don't even get me started on you. You have posted so far two articles that I and others have found patently clueless. So please, step away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself." Comment on infosecisland.com
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Posted Yesterday, 05:23

View Postpdmunro, on 2026-January-30, 21:56, said:

I wish I could be so sure that bidding is right in these situations, when you know the high points are sitting over the top of you.

And your partner's high cards are sitting over LHO's, you know that RHO has a bust hand, and the LHO has almost all the points so you can declare almost double dummy.

Passing partner's opening 1NT is not the same as passing partner's opening 1 of a suit. Responder may have close to an invitational hand after a 1NT opening. In any case, if opponents are going to pass out 1NT and then voluntarily(?) bid game when opponents balance, that's the type of opponents where you can score a 70% game.
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