[badderzboy]

Scoring: MP

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Our bidding was
1♥-2NT(jacoby)
3♠(singleton)-4♦cue
4NT(3014)-5[♣ 3 or 0
5NT-6♦ 1K
7H

brave or foolish?

[coyot]

In our 2/1

1♥-2♦*
3♣-3♥
4♣-4♦
4♠-4NT
5♦-6♦
6♠-7♥


* I will hide the 4card support, because my side suit is a good source of tricks AND I don't have a convenient bid with singleton ace.
3♥ shows full support AND good diamonds (otherwise I would have used a conventional raise)
After cuebids, 4NT is RKCB, 5♦ for 3.

6♦ would be Doroszewicz, asking about ♦ honors (and 6♠ response showing either Q or AK) - and we're up there (but it's still not a fine slam, because without the ♦J it still needs club finesse.).

But, with a good partnership agreement and experience, you would "know" that partner is NOT promoting AKxxx as a good source of tricks. At least the way I'm used to play, these bids would show VERY solid suit - AKQxx, AKJxx, KQJxx.

If I weren't sure about the diamond jack, I could bid 6♣ Doroszewicz instead - and finding out that partner has Q of clubs, decide whether I want to play 7 on finesse or not.

Alternative bidding, if you opt for Jacoby 2NT:
1♥-2NT
4♣-4NT

4♣ shows 5card (IMHO better to show 5 cards than to show one of two singletons).
P can assume the club suit stopped and use RKCB again - and we will get to the same conclusion - that we're missing club king - and stop in 6.

I don't know any system that could reliably show a singleton gueen and find the 4 discards for opener's clubs.

[POJC]

1H-2NT (forcing raise)
3C-3D (3C=3-5 loosers, 3D=asks about hand)
3S-3NT (Singleton + where?)
4H-4NT (in major=spades and 1430)
5S-? (Q+2 aces)

possible continuation
5NT-6H.
Or since i know opener has max 5 loosers just bid 7H and hope for either Q of Ds or club king...

Now if someone knows advanced RKC they might now how to ask for the queen of diamonds, but i don't... And if i ask for club king i can't get partner to show the Q of Ds

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

your bidding was ok.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[inquiry]

1♥ - 2♦    2♦ automatic, 2/1 GF
2♥ - 3♠    2♥
4♦ - 4NT   3S = splinter, no club control
5♠ - 6♣
6♥ - 7♥
Pass

3S is splinter, denies club control the way I play this (well known view I have on this, see these two links for instance no splinter becuase of ace if off suit or
http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...control++third# )

4D is cue-bid (here some might argue last train, but I must have club control at very least not to sign off, so more important to show diamond fitting with partner, than club control. The fact that I cue-bid at all shows club control, QED.
4NT = rkcb
5S = two plus queen
6C = asking bid in clubs, maybe opener has club AK (see kantar RKB) for 7NT
6H = no King or Queen of clubs
7H = missed clever 7NT, because I think I can ruff a spade, your sixth heart makes up for lack of spade ruff...

If opener decides to show his clubs (not unreasonable) instead of rebid hearts

1♥ - 2♦
3♣ - 3♥ (set trumps)
3♠ - 3NT (3S = cue bid, serious 3NT)
4♣ - 4NT (4♣ = cuebid, 4NT = RKCB, 5♠ two plus queen)
5♠ - 5NT (5NT is asking bid)
7♥ Pass

Once again, kantar RKBC stuff. 4NT blackwood, 5S two with queen, 5NT now grand slam try, his specific king ask. In theory, opener bids kings up the line. But as kantar says if opener can count 13 tricks he bids game. Partner doesn't know about the diamond Queen nor the extra trump, so the grand is at least a reaspable shot. Note, this way, grand is reached if opener has

S-x H-AQxxx D-xx C-AKxxx or the current hand with fitting diamond queen and extra trump. If responder was just interested in diamond Q he could bid 6D Specific suit askng bid, bidding grand if opener shows Queen, but this risk getting to 7H when partner has same hand with singleton diamond.

[sylad]

badderzboy, on Jul 19 2005, 09:41 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

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Our bidding was
1♥-2NT(jacoby)
3♠(singleton)-4♦cue
4NT(3014)-5[♣ 3 or 0
5NT-6♦ 1K
7H

brave or foolish?

1H-2nt
3D gives better room

1H-2nt
3D-3S
4C-4nt
5S-6D* ask to bid 7 with Q of D
7H

[joker_gib]

Imho, starting with 2NT when you have a suit with 2 big honours is a torture for partner !

2♦ is mandatory here

Alain

[the hog]

Ok Jacoby on this hand is ridiculous. You have a bid source of tricks in the D suit. For heaven's sake SHOW the source of tricks!! Agree totally with joker gib and Ben. Show pd what you have got. Jacoby tends to suggest a balanced hand without a good 5 card suit.

I like Ben's sequence, especially if the 4D cue shows one of A/K/Q of D.