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What do you open?
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Posted 2024-February-07, 18:04
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Posted 2024-February-07, 19:39
A natural 4♣ for me.
Younger me may consider 1♣ for a moment
Younger me may consider 1♣ for a moment
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted 2024-February-07, 20:45
3NT if playing this as a good 4 level minor preempt, 4♣ otherwise.
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Posted 2024-February-07, 23:28
Yeah, 3♣ is too low (though just barely at this vulnerability), but I don't really want to keep partner from playing in 3N if they have K♣ and assorted values.
This is a good hand for having agreements where you don't have a 4♣ preempt available (because you're playing some form of Namyats).
This is a good hand for having agreements where you don't have a 4♣ preempt available (because you're playing some form of Namyats).
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Posted 2024-February-07, 23:28
1♣, my partner always has a holding like Qx, Axx, QJxxxx, Kx where 3N makes and 5♣ doesn't if I bypass it
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Posted 2024-February-08, 00:26
Hi,
you could pass.
It is certainly a reasonable 4C opening bid, 5C is a bit too much at this colors,
you will quite often hear the opp. make a (T/O) X and play it there.
With kind regards
Marlowe
you could pass.
It is certainly a reasonable 4C opening bid, 5C is a bit too much at this colors,
you will quite often hear the opp. make a (T/O) X and play it there.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2024-February-08, 03:05
I would normally open a hand with an eight card suit at the four level but decided due to the unfavourable vulnerability to open 3♣, which also leaves 3NT on the table if I have pre-empted partner. I got battered:
Both major suit finesses are wrong and the defence managed to engineer a heart ruff after I took the losing finesse so one down for -200 and a bottom:
3♠ N +140
4♠ N -100
4♠ N -50
3♣X N +200
4♠ N -50
Both major suit finesses are wrong and the defence managed to engineer a heart ruff after I took the losing finesse so one down for -200 and a bottom:
3♠ N +140
4♠ N -100
4♠ N -50
3♣X N +200
4♠ N -50
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Posted 2024-February-08, 03:21
What has any of that got to do with your choice of bid?
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Posted 2024-February-08, 07:44
smerriman, on 2024-February-08, 03:21, said:
What has any of that got to do with your choice of bid?
Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company. Twice in that session I made red against green pre-empts and both times I got doubled and 0%. I was wondering on this hand if anyone would consider opening 1♣ which flashed through my mind.
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Posted 2024-February-08, 15:53
Only 3C for me. Partner is still there and could have a decent hand with Kx of clubs where 3NT is on.
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Posted 2024-February-08, 16:18
Douglas43, on 2024-February-08, 15:53, said:
Only 3C for me. Partner is still there and could have a decent hand with Kx of clubs where 3NT is on.
For once we agree, even Jx might be enough.
Although I am still struggling to define 4♣ as I previously played Namyats and did not have it available.
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Posted 2024-February-08, 16:27
AL78, on 2024-February-08, 07:44, said:
Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company.
I struggle to see why 4♠ went down with a sane North at all 5 tables, especially on the probable ♣A lead.
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Posted 2024-February-08, 17:30
AL78, on 2024-February-08, 07:44, said:
Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company. Twice in that session I made red against green pre-empts and both times I got doubled and 0%. I was wondering on this hand if anyone would consider opening 1♣ which flashed through my mind.
Agreed with all of that, though it sounded like you connected your decision with being battered / getting a bad result - did every other table open 1♣?
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