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Disappointing IMPs hand The bot lied (a bit) about its majors

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Posted 2023-December-19, 19:06

The West bot disrupted the auction with a disgraceful Capelletti psych and left me in no-mans land with 5 club game and 3Nt game going begging
I always thought I could trust the West bot to be honest

Imagine the disappointment

It is the sort of bid I would make myself but imagine the disappointment at only losing 4 spade tricks and not 5



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Posted 2023-December-20, 12:58

You established a game force and then passed without being in game. That usually scores poorly. Nothing to do with bots.
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Posted 2023-December-20, 13:23

 TylerE, on 2023-December-20, 12:58, said:

You established a game force and then passed without being in game. That usually scores poorly. Nothing to do with bots.


Which game Tyler
North established the force and then left me in diamonds
It too was fooled by West perhaps
Where was I supposed to go next

And it didn't score as badly as it could. Some didn't make their 3NT
Some decided to stop in club part scores lol

Wouldn't you have counted 5 losers in no trumps or gambled on the bots not finding their defense

Keep it simple. 25 points means 3nt

It's called overthinking
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Posted 2023-December-21, 16:08

I don't find Robot West's bid psychic or disgraceful, the spades are well worth 5 cards and the diamonds shortage is useful.
The game force was induced (rightly) by your Robot partner, but it does look like you are looking for a poor score by pinpointing the spades weakness rather than simply blessing your luck for the long clubs fit and bidding 3NT Nespresso.
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Posted 2023-December-21, 17:03

 pescetom, on 2023-December-21, 16:08, said:

I don't find Robot West's bid psychic or disgraceful, the spades are well worth 5 cards and the diamonds shortage is useful.
The game force was induced (rightly) by your Robot partner, but it does look like you are looking for a poor score by pinpointing the spades weakness rather than simply blessing your luck for the long clubs fit and bidding 3NT Nespresso.


In defence of West I did say it was a bid I would have made
Clearly not a psych

It was enough to get me and my north bot to miss 3nt and one other table to pass 3c

Someone else stopped in 2c via 1d opening and only around half made their 3nt

I still don't really understand lebensohl
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Posted 2023-December-21, 17:14

> Clearly not a psych

Why'd you call it a psyche then?
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Posted 2023-December-21, 17:21

For rhetorical and humour purposes
I like to tease the bots a bit

I regret not using my gut instinct and bidding 5clubs lol
Couldn't have been worse and once we had passed 3nt where next

It was effective disruption
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Posted 2023-December-21, 17:34

Come to think of it my first instinct was to pass Lebensohl

I know 15+10+ usually is automatically 3nt

Sure enough

Note: I am presently discussing the hand with my TD GPT and plan to ask it about Lebensohl later. It hasn't started well since all the conversations have North and South flipped. Despite that it was able to identify the pros and cons of the options available quite successfully
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