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#1 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

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Posted 2023-August-05, 11:16



Matchpoints, you could have overcalled 2 (weak showing 5+) but not 1 systemically which needs to be better

If you WJO, please say so, if not, pass, double or 2 next ?
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Posted 2023-August-05, 11:26

1 the first round is indicated. If you are going to make dubious action it is important to do it before the opponents have confirmed their combined fit and strength. If your partnership dictates passivity the first round you buy yourself a problem on all the borderline hands on the second round. It pays quite a bit to not voluntarily take the last guess, as we are here.

If a jump the first round shows only 5 hearts, passing then bidding either shows 4 hearts and 5(+) clubs, or hearts and spades. Do you have agreements about either hand type? I do not want to pass here, but don't know about your partnership agreements on 2 versus X here.
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Posted 2023-August-05, 13:38

View PostDavidKok, on 2023-August-05, 11:26, said:

1 the first round is indicated. If you are going to make dubious action it is important to do it before the opponents have confirmed their combined fit and strength. If your partnership dictates passivity the first round you buy yourself a problem on all the borderline hands on the second round. It pays quite a bit to not voluntarily take the last guess, as we are here.

If a jump the first round shows only 5 hearts, passing then bidding either shows 4 hearts and 5(+) clubs, or hearts and spades. Do you have agreements about either hand type? I do not want to pass here, but don't know about your partnership agreements on 2 versus X here.


NV this would be a clear 2 by our methods. We are far from passive but tewnd to arrive with jump overcalls on bad hands rather than simple ones.

This means 2 second time would be a hand unsuitable for a weak jump for any reason, often 9-10 with 5. We have a bid for 5-5 majors.

Otherwise no reason to assume anything specific, x is essentially a takeout double without the values to do it first time.
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Posted 2023-August-06, 14:54

Then 2 the second time is the clear move, partner should infer that we also have spades and therefore didn't move last round. We're a little light but that never stopped me.
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Posted 2023-August-07, 01:44

It is usually bad tactics to let play green fitted ops at the 2 level. Even when red.

X is out of the question, with little defence and no C, so 2H who will be sth like I couldn’t bid the round before.

Will partner get you had S and couldnt bid 2H because of that, or will they think you have 4 chunky H only and maybe some kind of black suit (C probably rather than S) to go along with?
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Posted 2023-August-07, 02:32

I play 2 over 1 as 5+4, but South is a touch weak for my liking unless I'm feeling particularly obstructive. Absent that bid a 1 overcall will suffice
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Posted 2023-August-07, 07:30

View Postapollo1201, on 2023-August-07, 01:44, said:

It is usually bad tactics to let play green fitted ops at the 2 level. Even when red.

X is out of the question, with little defence and no C, so 2H who will be sth like I couldn’t bid the round before.

Will partner get you had S and couldnt bid 2H because of that, or will they think you have 4 chunky H only and maybe some kind of black suit (C probably rather than S) to go along with?


This was my view, partner doubled, I assumed no 5M so we played a crap 3 when I had Q10x, AQx, Jxx, A10xx, 3 would have made with Jxx onside.
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Posted 2023-August-07, 10:50

View PostCyberyeti, on 2023-August-05, 11:16, said:



Matchpoints, you could have overcalled 2 (weak showing 5+) but not 1 systemically which needs to be better

If you WJO, please say so, if not, pass, double or 2 next ?

First: Are you _certain_ that responder did not intend the single raise as forcing??? At the table, I would worry about that.

Second: If you are going to feel compelled to make a bad re-opening with this hand, why not make a bad 2-suited takeout at your first turn?
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Posted 2023-August-08, 18:06

the vulnerability has me worried at MP. -100 could end up being a horrific score. Seems like entirely too much risk for uncertain reward. PASS. If I was NV easy 2h bid. Lots of sympathy for the 2h bidders that hate to make the opening lead:)
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Posted 2023-August-09, 01:22

View Postgszes, on 2023-August-08, 18:06, said:

the vulnerability has me worried at MP. -100 could end up being a horrific score. Seems like entirely too much risk for uncertain reward. PASS. If I was NV easy 2h bid. Lots of sympathy for the 2h bidders that hate to make the opening lead:)


2= -90 gets you exactly 2 more matchpoints than 3-3, everybody else is making heart partscores
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