[sceptic]

HI, can you help me out here, I read somewhere (memory issue here) that playing hi lo, the position is reversed when playing trumps, can someone tell me if that is correct please

[EricK]

I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this isn't really an example of reversing the signal in trumps, but more an exampe of an unnecessarily high card sending a message to partner (which was probably the very first sort of defensive signal)

When declarer draws two rounds of trumps and you play high-low partner knows you have a third trump for a possible ruff.

Since this is just an agreement with partner you can play it the other way around.

Note also that many pairs use suit-preference signals in trumps instead. If you have 3 small trumps and declarer is going to draw them all, you have 6 possible orders to play them in. Imagine all the messages you can send!

Eric

[whereagles]

There are many ideas on which card to play with xxx or xx of trumps. I came to know of

- Count
- Suit preference
- High-low shows ability to ruff something
- Always the lowest trump possible
- Random

Playing 'count', the signal is usually hi-low with 3 cards and low-high with 2. The idea is to keep your highest trump card to play last, just in case you need it for ruffing, overruffing, trump promotion or simply to complicate declarer's entries.

So.. yes, playing count in the trump suit is usually hi-low with 3. Regardless of whatever methods you play in other suits (UDCA, standard..).

[xx1943]

whereagles, on Jul 5 2005, 11:33 AM, said:

So.. yes, playing count in the trump suit is usually hi-low with 3. Regardless of whatever methods you play in other suits (UDCA, standard..).

But normally you play only high low (TRUMP-ECHO), if you want to ruff. If there is no ruffing value, it makes no sense to give decalrer the information of your trump length

Regards

Al

[Fluffy]

sceptic, on Jul 5 2005, 05:45 AM, said:

HI, can you help me out here, I read somewhere (memory issue here) that playing hi lo, the position is reversed when playing trumps, can someone tell me if that is correct please

This exists, just that you rarelly will want to give count in trumps, but yes, the reason is you want to play low from any doubleton honnor (that's why udca was invented for), so you give reversed count in trumps since opponents are suposed to have 8+ cards there.

With my partner I play that when opponents play a suit we give the count reversed (ud) but when we are leading the suit we give it natural (hi=even).