[thepossum]

I have been looking for an example of this to post for a while
I judged this hand as 2-3C and was competing

What does GiB do. Why not just bid 3C after a pass in competition???

What is the "thinking" Competitive auction, no indication of game interest. I will push the bidding up two levels

What is even more irksome is that all of us pushed to 4 only made 3 yet those who bid 3 themselves were gifted an overtrick

That's what the traveller looks like anyway - approximately half of us in 4-1 and half in 3+1

I am a big fan of the early Michaels cue bid but etc

I appreciate (as is the usual response) someone will blame it on me passing

Either me or my partner is entitled if they see fit to bid 3 clubs

Maybe my thinking is wrong on the issue but how many points are in one pack of cards

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[the hog]

Perhaps because you showed a better hand than you actually held?

[thepossum]

I knew somebody would show up and blame it on me
Sadly you are wrong
It is a 3S vs 3C hand mate
All I did was double their 2C cue bid and pass opening bid and decent clubs that is all

So in all fairness 4C-1 is better than 3S against us but 3C is even better

Apparently half the field made the same mistake as me which is some consolation

I did exaggerate the traveller slightly. That's just how it feels. Only a few managed the overtrick and quite a few were in NT minus 1

It is a mystery and something of a lottery to me. Knowing which of my bids led to the problem

I should do a sample of the traveller and their BBO points and see if there is any correlation at all - I have wasted time on such exercises before

I actually didn't explore the full traveller. I was only looking at the top section - and we always salute the 100 percenter on 3NT at the top

3NT-4 was one of several modal scores

While I was disappointed the above (random) contract still managed 40%

Apparently to get to the reaonsable and optimal modal contract of 3C you have to pass the 2C cue bid. That seems strange to me
Forgive me please for thinking that double seemed a reasonable option

But in all seriousness I get upset when I have judged a hand almost perfectly as a 3C hand (in this case) and am undone
Its like those joke auctions where everyone bids everyone else's suits until the bitter end
And we are bidding (roughly paraphrased) a "simple and natural 2/1 system"
For some reason it makes me think of dueling banjos

But I did put the hand up for reasonable discusssion and not personal attack

So in such a strange and unnatural world you have to somehow learn to play their game for your own safety
Yet another rant and I know I am in strange and alien parts but occasionally a bit of friendliness would not go astray
And as a half competent player I do my best to play the tune

[LBengtsson]

the hog, on 2023-February-20, 00:36, said:

Perhaps because you showed a better hand than you actually held?

No. Not according to GIB's description. If rebiddable clubs = a six card suit, well, AK982 is damn well good enough imo. If that is the case, North - a human flesh, blood and bones North - should bid 3♣ here, not just let the X roll around to East to bid 2♠. That is my view.