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Must work on my poker face :-)

#1 User is online   AL78 

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Posted 2022-November-20, 07:47

MPs



That was almost a bottom, one pair made 4 but all the rest but one were going off in 4 or 5. She said afterwards she felt I had the K. Damned women's intuition :lol:.
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Posted 2022-November-20, 07:53

Itís clear you have the king if you didnít u wouldíve given P a trump promotion by playing a third club. You should still play a club at trick 4 no reason why the 9 and 6 of spades couldnít be switched for example.
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Posted 2022-November-20, 09:33

View Posteagles123, on 2022-November-20, 07:53, said:

Itís clear you have the king if you didnít u wouldíve given P a trump promotion by playing a third club. You should still play a club at trick 4 no reason why the 9 and 6 of spades couldnít be switched for example.


She would have given me that reason if she really had worked that out so it is near certain she didn't.
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Posted 2022-November-20, 16:16

View PostAL78, on 2022-November-20, 07:47, said:

That was almost a bottom, one pair made 4 but all the rest but one were going off in 4 or 5.

So it would have been an equally bad score even if she finessed the spade?
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Posted 2022-November-21, 01:58

View Postsmerriman, on 2022-November-20, 16:16, said:

So it would have been an equally bad score even if she finessed the spade?


Yes, but still irritating.
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Posted 2022-November-21, 03:57

Poker faces are difficult and some people notice people trying
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Posted 2022-November-22, 02:08

I dislike 2NT intensely.

I prefer my two Surtees to either be weak or game forcing. This is neither, and the suits arenít really that good either, they arenít going to play well opposite 2 or 3 small.
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Posted 2022-November-22, 14:25

View PostTylerE, on 2022-November-22, 02:08, said:

I dislike 2NT intensely.

I prefer my two Surtees to either be weak or game forcing. This is neither, and the suits arenít really that good either, they arenít going to play well opposite 2 or 3 small.


I take your point and I used to play it as either weak or strong, but several people I partner don't play it that way. If I am not using the unusual 2NT on a hand like that, I might as well take it off the card it comes up so infrequently as it is.
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Posted 2022-November-23, 10:02

I am moving away (quite strongly, in fact) from "mini-maxi" two-suited bids to "it has some cards, and some expectation that declaring will be right". And that goes double for 2NT.

The mini- always seems to end up defending, and somehow they declare better when they know where all the cards are. When we do play it, it's for 800 into game or worse. The maxi never happens, and partner doesn't know what to do with their two queens when it does.

Of course, I also play a set of constructive advances I first heard about from McKenzie Myers (back when he was a pro player). Which work well if you actually have something.

So I actually am interested in 2NT here. Pity partner has misfitting nothing.

But as I say a lot - including just yesterday here - it doesn't matter what I think, or what anybody else here thinks; if it's a 2NT bid to partner, then you make it. If it's not a 2NT bid in partner's eyes, you don't.
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Posted 2022-November-23, 21:03

View PostAL78, on 2022-November-22, 14:25, said:

I take your point and I used to play it as either weak or strong, but several people I partner don't play it that way. If I am not using the unusual 2NT on a hand like that, I might as well take it off the card it comes up so infrequently as it is.


It's 6-5 non-vulnerable. 2NT for me every time.
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