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What do you call with this distributional hand?

#21 User is offline   sotelow 

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Posted 2022-August-09, 10:00

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

♠KQ874
♥3
♦AQJT53
♣4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?

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Posted 2022-August-09, 10:52

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

♠KQ874
♥3
♦AQJT53
♣4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?


I simply bid 2!D if I do not have a 2 suited bid available. I also expect the auction not to die there, though it might. I am intending on bidding spades later
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Posted 2022-August-09, 12:08

In the very olden days, 2NT overcall shows any 2 suiter. Partner assumes minors. Overcaller would 'correct', pass, or raise.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:55

View Postmikeh, on 2022-August-09, 09:26, said:

If, for some strange reason, ...


Fully agreed. With one additional reason, start with diamonds and they bid hearts you can introduce spades at a lower level than when you start with spades and you have to introduce diamonds over a heart bid.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 16:28

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

♠KQ874
♥3
♦AQJT53
♣4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?

I would bid 2D showing 10+pts and 4D looking for a possible M or D fit.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 16:57

Unsurprisingly a lot of people advocating bidding diamonds followed by spades. My RHO didn't know what to do and ended up doing nothing:



Partner made nine tricks for 12/14 MPs. One EW pair was in 3♦, the rest were in some number of spades making nine or ten tricks. The only NS pair we didn't beat was the pair who found a double of 4♠ and took it one off.

This illustrates the randomness of club duplicate, at least in my bridge world.
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Posted 2022-August-11, 21:20

HELLO is a pretty good defense to 1NT. It's a descendant of Cappelletti/Hamilton/Helms/Pottage developed by Jerry Helms and his partners. There's a good booklet on it by Jerry which, last I checked, is available from Baron-Barclay.
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Posted 2022-August-11, 21:22

"I don't know what to do, so I pass" is the bane of beginner bridge.
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Posted 2022-August-12, 10:13

View Postblackshoe, on 2022-August-11, 21:22, said:

"I don't know what to do, so I pass" is the bane of beginner bridge.

Isn’t it the walrus of V. Mollo who passed a balanced 16 count because to please a new partner, he had agreed to play weak NT?
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Posted 2022-August-13, 05:51

I'd go and learn a method to make two-suited overcalls.
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