[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     Pass  1♦    Pass
 2NT   Pass  3♠    Pass
 4♦    Pass  4♥    Pass
 5♣    Pass  5♠    Pass
 6♦    Pass  Pass  Pass
 

Hi Can I have your opinions on the 5 spade bid I made please, you can comment on the rest of it if it is worth commenting on,

[inquiry]

5♠ is unnecessary, and unwise. After your partner's limited 2NT response, you are not trying for grand slam here. If you are going to bid the slam (and once you bypass 5♦ you are), just bid it.

Making this hand will be difficult. On a spade lead, i think you might always be down. On a club lead, you have to make the wildly unlikely lead of diamond ten pinning the nine at trick two (clearly extremely anti-percentage), and on a heart queen to your king, you have to play very carefully, needing to take diamond hook and ruff a club in your hand requires careful planning. Did you make this?

[luke warm]

agree, after 5♣ i'd just bid 5♦.. i have to admit, i'd be at 3nt on this hand so if 6♦ made, well done

1♦ : 2♦
2♥ : 2NT
3NT

[HeartA]

sceptic, on Jun 18 2005, 12:32 PM, said:

I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day

anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx

http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219

No 7 at the bottom of the list

The slam is not that bad. But the actual cards, you would finish down 1 with good defense, say, North didn't cover pd's ♥Q.

[inquiry]

HeartA, on Jun 18 2005, 02:31 PM, said:

The slam is not that bad. But the actual cards, you would finish down 1 with good defense, say, North didn't cover pd's ♥Q.

While you probably WOULD have finished down one fi the heart ACE had not been played at trick one, the fact is rather you did or not has nothing to do iwth the defense. For when your heart king wins, you always have 12 tricks if you take the correct view.

The correct view (hard to take, especially if you think the fellow with the sitff nine of diamonds is up to playing diamond 9 from a number of holdings, including J9xx), is win heart king. Cash one high diamond from hand, cross to club, lead diamond ten... rather covered or not, you will win, 4D, 1H, 4S, 2C, 1C ruff. In a modest game with honest card players, one might find this line I guess, but I woujld beat against getting it right.

Ben

[HeartA]

inquiry, on Jun 18 2005, 01:40 PM, said:

The correct view (hard to take, especially if you think the fellow with the sitff nine of diamonds is up to playing diamond 9 from a number of holdings, including J9xx), is win heart king. Cash one high diamond from hand, cross to club, lead diamond ten... rather covered or not, you will win, 4D, 1H, 4S, 2C, 1C ruff. In a modest game with honest card players, one might find this line I guess, but I woujld beat against getting it right.

Ben

That is double dummy. But what if South had ♦J9 doubleton?

BTW, at ritong's table, ♥K won a trick but still finished down 1.

[mike777]

I would have just bid 3nt over 2nt.
Assume 2nt was 12-13 balanced hand and does not promise 4D all the time.
Worried about duplicated values in Clubs.

[luke warm]

HeartA, on Jun 18 2005, 01:51 PM, said:

BTW, at ritong's table, ♥K won a trick but still finished down 1.

yes, but at this table the ♥K *and* the ♥10 won tricks

[Free]

Imo the correct play in ♦s is the Ace, and when you see the 9, play south for stiff, double or triple, and hope he didn't falsecard. If he did, congratulate him... This is imo no double dummy play at all. Just need the ♥A onside, or a ♥ lead (not from singleton)

[Fluffy]

sceptic, on Jun 18 2005, 05:32 PM, said:

I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day

anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx

http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219

No 7 at the bottom of the list

Slam is not a good idea after 2NT, because you have singleton on partner's suit: 1♦-1NT adn 1♦-2NT has alwyas 4+♣ unless 3343.

[inquiry]

Free, on Jun 18 2005, 06:24 PM, said:

Imo the correct play in ♦s is the Ace, and when you see the 9, play south for stiff, double or triple, and hope he didn't falsecard. If he did, congratulate him... This is imo no double dummy play at all. Just need the ♥A onside, or a ♥ lead (not from singleton)

Come on free.. this is a mandatory false card situaion. Your LHO must drop the diamond nine from several holding (not to mention singleton nine).

For instance, with J9, with J9xx, with J9x, with 9xx, with 9x and of course with stiff 9.

When he holds J9xx, you have to cash the diamond sceond high diamond from your hand, and hook diamond -- but if singleont diamond, that is wrong. When singleton diamond, you can not lead another diamond from your hand. And if you do lead another diamond from your hand and he plays low, did he have J9xx or 9x? Tis a puzzle.

[JSilver]

sceptic, on Jun 18 2005, 05:32 PM, said:

I had an idea that slam was possible, after the 5 club bid I knew 6 was to be bid, but I was not happy with bidding 5 spades, it is an area, I seem to make the same mistake whilst cue bidding, I am not quite getting it right, but I will get there one day

anyway this is how I made the slam, if you have time I would appreciate comments on my play thx

http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...19087525-123219

No 7 at the bottom of the list

Well played!

[Free]

inquiry, on Jun 19 2005, 02:08 AM, said:

Come on free.. this is a mandatory false card situaion. Your LHO must drop the diamond nine from several holding (not to mention singleton nine).

Obviously it's a mandatory falsecard situation, but there's no legal way to figure out if he did or not. So the only clue you have is frequency. Guess what: 9, 9x, J9, 9xx, J9x is way more frequent than J9xx