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Poll: What do you respond? (10 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you respond?

  1. Pass (1 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. 2 diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 2 Hearts (9 votes [90.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

  4. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Wackojack 

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Posted 2005-June-06, 04:29

This looks like a very simple situation, yet my partner and I disagreed about the correct response. We agreed to play unassuming cue bids. Don't forget this is match points
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Posted 2005-June-06, 04:32

I promise not to forget that it's MP if you promise to tell me what he opened :P

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Posted 2005-June-06, 05:28

I think 2♥ is clearcut here (if the auction is what I think it is!)
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Posted 2005-June-06, 06:04

If it's 1♦ 1♥ Pass I surely bid 2♥ here.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 06:12

After that really is the auction, 2♥ is what this hand is worth. It's far away from being a sound raise (2♦).

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Posted 2005-June-06, 06:31

Hi,

2H, if the auction is, as Gerben suggested.

This hand is not worth a cue raise, the only
question is, if you should bid 2C instead of 2H,
assuming 2C is not forcing merely constructive.

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Posted 2005-June-06, 08:07

2H for me as well at the speculated auction. I would need another queen or so to cuebid.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 08:16

That auction wuldn't happen because I would open 3♣, and since it is west the dealer director would penalize my partner not to bid on first round.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 09:19

I think "other" is clear with this hand.
The sequence
1? - 1??
1?? - 1other
shows a weak hand with 6 clubs and two top honors. Singleton in diamonds. Pd can now place the contract or relay bidding 2something. Over 2something I'd bid 3?! showing interest in what's happening.
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  Posted 2005-June-06, 11:02

I like Luis' approach, and think it will work on most hands, but I can see disaster if LHO weighs in with 2thingies, and partner, holding exactly the right hand for the rarely seen Fairport Convention, will jump-cue 4thingies (showing six diamonds headed by the queen, 9 points precisely, and a club shortage (if a singleton, it must be an EVEN card)). Now you're rather too high on a misfit hand.

But I suppose that it is Matchpoints.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 13:22

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Posted 2005-June-16, 06:01

I have just come back from holidaying in France and when look at bridgebase I see that you have correctly guessed my question (that I forgot to put) and also provided the answer. Thanks for that, I am really impressed.
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Posted 2005-June-16, 08:56

I still dunno what thios proiblem is about.
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Posted 2005-June-16, 09:14

Fluffy, on Jun 16 2005, 10:56 AM, said:

I still dunno what thios proiblem is about.

It was a mental excerise to see if you could read the mind of the poster.. .the one clue is this (in bold) from the original post....

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This looks like a very simple situation, yet my partner and I disagreed about the correct response. We agreed to play unassuming cue bids.   Don't forget this is match points


Since unassuming cue-bid was mentioned, the opponent must have bid something, and partner must have made an overcall and the next hand passed.

This means, in all likelyhood, West opened a red suit, and partner overcalled in a major at the one level. So the question is do you raise partners major to the two level, or cue-bid to show a little something. The people who choose to guess, chose an opoening bid of 1♦ and a 1♥ overcall (surely 1♥ instead of 1 spade because of the options in the poll, and surely 1♦. else 2♦ here really makes no sense).

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Posted 2005-June-16, 09:28

I think figuring out the original question from the clues is more interesting and fun then providing the answer!
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Posted 2005-June-16, 15:48

I was a bit puzzled because I dunnowhat unasuming cuebids is, I though it was something you do bidding controls at teh 4 level :D.
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