[ArcLight]

> However, your comments about this hand seem to indicate that you didn't get it, and perhaps that was true for other hands too.

Hannie,
Perhaps it is you who doesn't get it.
Maybe because English is not your native Language?


With 9 cards, holding the AK the proper play is AK, rejecting the finesse.
If RHO has shortness in Diamonds, then he has space for more trumps. That may change the odds so that its best to play for the finesse.

Thats what the book says.

Guess What! In the example in the book, that line loses!!
So why did they pick that lie of the cards?


The only beneficial part of teh lesson was the discovery play, tempting East to over ruff. That part was fine. But the other part (about taking the finesse) was not.



Following the authors reasoning you should take the LOSING finesse if East doesnt ruff.

Bad layout of the cards.


Since you think this is a good problem, then you should buy the book. You will enjoy plenty more like it.


PS You thought that I said that advanced books were no good, which I never wrote. Therefore I think your grasp of English may not be as good as you may think.

[Flame]

ArcLight, your bridge reviews are excelent, I trasnt them and because you didnt like the book i didnt put it on my list, but lets say that this example alone wasnt convincing enough that the book isnt good, the right play missing 4 cards is going for the drop (9 never) but knowing the numbers you know its not nearly as strong as other "rules" like finnesing K with 10 cards, so even a small change of the odds matter, one common known odds changer is the non trump lead, you cant say exactly how much it change the odds, but you should know it does.
Im not sure about this case, i tend to agree with you that the author ment that even 4 diamonds changes the odds in the direction that support trump finnese, which is not right according to the restricted choice thory.
Keep up the good work.

[inquiry]

I agree with Hannie and Justin. Reading this, Arc, it looks like you lost something in the reading.

The point about WEST being more likely than EAST to be long in diamonds, makes the discover play POSSIBLE... (read this it is SAFER to play for the discovery play). If WEST was likely to be short in diamonds, you could not risk a discovery play after losing a diamond.

The fact that EAST has two diamonds only (if EAST shows out on third round) increases both the likelyhood he has three spades, and the liklelyhood if he had Qx or xx instead of three, he would ruff in.. .(in one case with the queen to get a hoped for trump promotion).

If EAST has xx in spades and xx in diamonds, and he is good enough not to ruff it, you are playing against opponents that are very good (but not impossibly so).... it happens. It is not that big of a stretch for a reasonable EAST to ask himself, why declerer who has lost a diamnod trick is not pulling trumps before trying to get a discard on the good diamond. The answer will come to mind very quickly if he does (I suspect this defense would at least higher than "advanced" ).

So this hand has several lessons. Discovery, discussion of if the discovery play is "safe", percentages, and an important "anti-discovery" defensive manuever. What more do you want for your money?

But so what... Buy BBO CD-ROM based books.. they are better anyway, and a great Christmas (ok, ok, holiday) present.

[Flame]

Ben what you say could be right, but since Arclight is the only one who actually read the book, he has the right to say that this is not what the book say.

[inquiry]

Flame, on Dec 13 2005, 03:13 PM, said:

Ben what you say could be right, but since Arclight is the only one who actually read the book, he has the right to say that this is not what the book say.

Well. I find the hand interesting without reading a word of what is written. Having said that, Arc pointed out...

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With 9 cards, holding the AK the proper play is AK, rejecting the finesse.
If RHO has shortness in Diamonds, then he has space for more trumps. That may change the odds so that its best to play for the finesse.

Thats what the book says.

Guess What! In the example in the book, that line loses!!
So why did they pick that lie of the cards?

You know why the line loses? That is, why the author put the queen offside!!! It was a major point of the excercise. That is, to illustrate the point about the very discovery play the author presented and took. So that even when spades don't split 5-2 you have a chance with the discover play to also pick up Qx off side if East is tempted by the trojan horse.

[ArcLight]

I think I should have selected a different problem!
I don't want to restate again why I don't like it, and I do understand Bens point.
So I will let it rest.


There was another problem involving card combinations (I'm sure Fred would have gotten it) that increased the chance of success by a small amount, perhaps 1-2%. I don't think thats all that great a problem. I'm not saying it's of no value, but I think there are so many better problems that Reese has presented.
Not just technique, but deception, and discovery plays.
One could argue than ANY problem has value, and thats true on an absolute basis, but not on a relative one. Reese has done so much better in other books, and thats why I buy his books.


I would never ever say a book is bad because it's too advanced for me.
Last year, after playing Bridge for all of 5 months, I tried Kelseys "Killing Defense" and found it too hard, so I put it aside for later. I find many of Kelsey's problems intricate and something I'd never find at the table (and not even in my armchair). I don't say those books are bad, just too advanced for me that I don't find them useful.

But I stand by my original post, I was very disappointed with the problems in Reese book. Many were marginal, and as I have read about 10 of his books (and many other very good bridge books so as to be able to make a meaningful comparison), I've seen him come up with better, mor evaluable problems. If it was a case of "gosh these problems are too hard for me" then that would not cause me to rate the book poorly.
I would not have posted a review at all!

I have read many more bridge books than I post reviews on. I try and post on books that made an impression on me, rather than just list all the books I've read.


PS I just started Freds "Master Class: Lessons from the Bridge Table". I very much like the problems and the presentation.

[Chamaco]

Hi Arc ,
keep up the good review work.

I think it is a good thing that you selected some concrete examples to explain your liking/disliking/rating of books, because, by doing so, you give the forum readers the chance to agree/disagree with you, and this is always extremely useful, even in the cases where the readers' opinion will differ from yours

[ArcLight]

Card Reading by Eric Jannersten 1972

Very good intermediate level book on deductive reasoning, and it also soem good play problems. The book presents around 75-85 non double dummy declarer problems, with bidding. Based on the first few tricks, the reader is expected to figure out distributions and HCP placement. Then make the hand using proper technique.

The deductive reasoning part is well done, and the inferences are reasonable (though not always obvious!). There are sections on topics like clues from the bidding, leads, discovery plays, putting yourself in your opponents position, assuming the only distribution that will let you make the contract, etc.
I enjoyed it, and it reminded me a lot of Mike Lawrences Counting at Bridge vol 1&2 software (available from Bridge Base)

The play part involves a number of squeezes (most are not too hard, though some I missed), plus a few other techniques. Nothing extremely hard, and overall good declarer play problems.

Overall I think its a great book, and I enjoyed reading it, though it takes a while to read because of all the thinking you need to do. Because its an older book (1972) it may be available in Libraries (that tend to have older Bridge books as opposed to newer ones).

(Funniest quip in the book "If wishes were horses beggars would ride, and you're not riding this one")

I also read about a third of Julian Pottages new Clues from the Bidding and didn't much care for it. I think other books on the subject are better, and more worthy of your hard earned money. I felt the problems were of two types:

1. Bidding clues were obvious, but the play of the hand was difficult (and hence it was more of a declarer play puzzle book which is not what I was looking for)

2. Bidding clues were skimpier, and might only slightly increase the odds of a certain break. (Maybe that means its a more advanced book, but I found it inferior to any others on the subject. Kelsey has a book on deductive reasoning called Logical Bridge Play which is better, and he is an advanced writer)

I no longer have the book so I can't list some examples of what I consider skimpier clues).

Here is a simpler problem, based on the bidding alone, no play skill involved.

Bidding
W N E S
1♠ X
- 2♥ 2♠ 3♦
3♠ 4♦ - 4♥
- 5♦ - -
-

---

West leads 3♠, taken by Easts J, followed by his K.
Then East leads the ♥Q.

Plan the play.

Hidden card play:

Spoiler

Win the Ace of hearts, lead to the ♦ King , both following.
Play for the finesse or drop?

Solution:

Spoiler

West couldn't even dredge up a raise even with an enemy take out double, but all of a sudden he's able to bid 3♠? It must be on distribution, namely diamond shortness. Play for the finesse.

A more difficult problem:

Bidding
W N E S
1♠ X
- 2♥ 2♠ 3♦
3♠ 4♦ - 4♥
- 5♦ - -
-

---

West leads the ♦3, East playing the K and you win the A.

Plan the play: (hidden cards next)

Spoiler

You have a Club loser and maybe a trump loser.
You play the K♥, everyone follows, then lead to the Ace♥ and West shows out!
Ouch. A trump loser and a Club loser! What do you do?

A few more cards are played: (hidden)

Spoiler

If the Clubs are split, an elimination end play (trump) may work.
You lead to the ♠Ace, ruff the last diamond, then play 2 more rounds of Spades, everyone following!
You now know what to do!

Solution:

Spoiler

You know from the lead of the diamond 3 that West has at least 3 diamonds, though it could be 4 or 5. In any case that means East must have at least 5 diamond. Along with 3 Spades and 3 Hearts, and 2 clubs.
Cash the AK of Clubs and throw in East with a trump for a ruff and discard.

[mike777]

Win the Big Match, Julian Pottage, 2004, 160p, 16.95$
Grade=B+

64 Imp match where you bid and play the hands.

Mainly a play book. Very entertaining with good tough hands for intermediate level players. Good practice in counting and visualizing the hands. For the newer players I find reading these play books, Reese, Pottage and of course Fred's a quick way to improve one's play level from the beginner level.

[luke warm]

ArcLight, on Nov 25 2005, 06:46 PM, said:

"Improve your bridge- fast!" by Sontag- Steinberg, 1982

On Chamacos suggestion I bought this book. I wonder if its the same book?
It has the same title, authors, and publication date.

Buts its geared entirely towards beginner players with 3 months experience or less. I mean its so basic that I'd say its about as tough as Bridge Master Level 1 problems.

Not only are all the "problems" double dummy, they only involve 4-6 cards (the other 7 to 9 have already been played). The "problems" consist of elementary finesses (sometimes repeated) or simple end plays (with 4 hands exposed).

I found the book to be a complete waste of time and money.

I will send my copy for free to anyone who wants it, for the cost of shipping by US Media mail (probably around $2).

Rating: F

ok, i just finished the book (thanks arc, email me your info and how much to credit your paypal account)

my impression is, it can't be a book for beginners... i would think one would need to be intermediate to intemediate+ to understand most of the plays in the book, and advanced to have actually heard of some of the plays (surround plays, uppercut, etc)

i didn't find a lot the plays especially difficult (difficult would be counting/infering the position needed to make the plays), but i would definitely recommend this book for anyone from inter to advanced...

again, thanks for this book arc, i enjoyed it

[Chamaco]

luke warm, on Dec 31 2005, 04:00 PM, said:

my impression is, it can't be a book for beginners... i would think one would need to be intermediate to intemediate+ to understand most of the plays in the book, and advanced to have actually heard of some of the plays (surround plays, uppercut, etc)

i didn't find a lot the plays especially difficult (difficult would be counting/infering the position needed to make the plays), but i would definitely recommend this book for anyone from inter to advanced...

Yes, the idea is not so much that the plays are difficult, but rather typical.
Basically you get to build an internal database of "goal positions" to aim to when you tackle a hand that has some specific features.

The idea is that one should be at a point of not even have to think of them, if he has to execute at the table an ending based on these positions.

====

I got this concept of studying typical endgames from playing and teaching chess (2 of my kids became national junior champions): studying and memorizing several simpe positions, until it becomes a second nature to have them right is the way to learn solving more complex problems.

This is even more so in bridge, IMO, where the available time for thinking is less than in chess.

[Winstonm]

Perhaps a reader here could help me. Long ago I read a fascinating book written by Jose le Dentu that covered a wide range of international tournaments.

I particularly remember a hand credited to Georgio Belladonna that the author says Belladonna could not remember playing.

Another quote (paraphrase ) was "meeting Terrence Reese in Amsterdam in the red light district too late for a single nymph to be diplayed in any window and calling out, 'Master Reese. A hand and I will let you pass.'"

This was a wonderfully entertaining read and I would be interested in once again obtaining a copy but have forgotten the title.

Any ideas, anyone?

Winston

[pigpenz]

remind me i think i have a copy of it at work, but wont be there until next week. I think it was a intersting book with different stories like the 3 card monty ending where it asks if you want to bet on defending or delcaring.

[mike777]

Play Bridge with Reese, Terence Reese, 2001, 17.95$, 240p.
Grade=A-

One of my favorite Reese books. Reread after several years.
Excellent for the advancing player. 75 play hands with lots of counting and visualization. Most of the hands are advanced but require no special expert knowledge. As in real life a few of the hands require less than perfect defense and our ability to take advantage or induce defensive errors.

Very enjoyable read and I highly recommend this book.

[pclayton]

I don't post much on this thread. However:

Here are the books sitting on my bedstand and next to my commode:

1. Masterpieces of declarer play by Pottage (great! adv to exp stuff)

2. Thinking on Defense by Jim Priebe (I love it, but the problems don't always have a clear link between reasoning and the answer)

3. Play Swiss Teams with Mike Lawrence (easy stuff)

4. 2003 and 2004 binders of BW's

5. My binder of system notes

Not far from my reach at any time are Adventures in Card Play and both issues of Killing Defense.

Also - if you are interested:

1. A Short History of Byzantium by Norwich

2. Goedel, Escher and Bach by Hofstadter (I'm really TRYING to understand this crap)

3. The 8 step swing by Jim McLean

4. 1453 by Crowley

[CarlRitner]

Winstonm, on Dec 31 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

Perhaps a reader here could help me.  Long ago I read a fascinating book written by Jose le Dentu that covered a wide range of international tournaments.


Any ideas, anyone?

Winston

Here's two possibilities:

Bridge: Triumphs And Disasters (1990, Paper, Gollancz, London)

Championship Bridge (1974, Cloth, Harper & Row, New York)

The first one was co-authored with Reese, so it sounds very likely. I do have one copy left.

Cheers,

Carl Ritner
ACBL Library Book Sale

[Winstonm]

There are two books - both out of print - I'd like to get my hands on: Championship Bridge by Jose le Dentu and Bridge with the Blue Team by Forquet.

Anybody know where these two books might be found?

Winston

[pdmunro]

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There are two books - both out of print - I'd like to get my hands on: Championship Bridge by Jose le Dentu and Bridge with the Blue Team by Forquet.

Try PostFree Bridge Books

http://www.users.big...books/authL.htm

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[sceptic]

I just read step by step Discarding, by Danny Roth, I think this is suitable for intermediates, though the chapters on avoiding endplay and discarding against squeezes, I found to be a bit harder to understand fully and I will probably have to read those chapters again a few times, before I am happy that I understand them fully.

I like the style they are written in and the examples given helped me to understand the concepts he was teaching.