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Aces or Spaces? What's your bid?

#1 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2021-September-07, 12:47

Playing in imp teams, no one is vulnerable and you pick up this hand: You are playing SAYC and open 1C.



3H is invitational.


What do you do, bid on or pass?
After you make a choice, look at the spoiler:

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Posted 2021-September-07, 13:36


Winstonm 'Playing in imp teams, no one is vulnerable and you pick up this hand: You are playing SAYC and open 1C.
What do you do, bid on or pass?
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4♥ seems reasonable :)

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Posted 2021-September-07, 13:45

1♠ would not be my bid with most partners, they would expect something more unbalanced. Having said that, A4 given "unbalanced" is massive support to a bid-and-rebid heart suit. After ...1NT-3♥ (still INV), I'm very happy with it, because I'm limited (one of the reasons I don't bid 1♠ with that hand). SAYC probably requires a 1♠ bid.

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Posted 2021-September-07, 16:10

View Postmycroft, on 2021-September-07, 13:45, said:

1♠ would not be my bid with most partners, they would expect something more unbalanced.


Some pairs deny 4 spades if opener bypasses 1♠. And some pairs promise an unbalanced hand if opener rebids 1♠. It depends on partnership agreement.

And then there are those who don't have any agreement.
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Posted 2021-September-07, 17:00

View Postmycroft, on 2021-September-07, 13:45, said:

1♠ would not be my bid with most partners, they would expect something more unbalanced. Having said that, A4 given "unbalanced" is massive support to a bid-and-rebid heart suit. After ...1NT-3♥ (still INV), I'm very happy with it, because I'm limited (one of the reasons I don't bid 1♠ with that hand). SAYC probably requires a 1♠ bid.



Spoiler



AJxx, 10x, Axx, Axxx 😏
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Posted 2021-September-07, 17:08

This sort of board, I seem to always be in 4♥, the spades and clubs don't comply but the diamonds are 4-4 so team mates are defending 3N.
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Posted 2021-September-08, 12:49

Assuming 3♥ is invitational, I pass, an 8 loser hand opposite an invite is not game. Game makes because 3♥ is an underbid holding honor cards in both partner's suits, a one loser heart suit, and a good chance of no diamond wastage, I'd go through FSF before bidding 3♥.
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Posted 2021-September-08, 13:36

View PostAL78, on 2021-September-08, 12:49, said:

Assuming 3♥ is invitational, I pass, an 8 loser hand opposite an invite is not game. Game makes because 3♥ is an underbid holding honor cards in both partner's suits, a one loser heart suit, and a good chance of no diamond wastage, I'd go through FSF before bidding 3♥.


Notice where this is posted - the point of this exercise is to demonstrate the power of aces to improve other face cards in the same suit.
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Posted 2021-September-09, 01:57

I'd bid 4♥ playing partner for seven hearts and a bit of luck for the tenth trick. Now I'll look at the spoiler and wipe the egg off my face...
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Posted 2021-September-09, 06:11

Ax♥ opposite an invitational 6+♥ suit which will revalue upwards with support means I bid 4♥. In addition the 6.5 modified loosing trick count adds comfort to the 4♥ bid: 19-6.5-8.5=4 level
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