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#21 User is offline   AL78 

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Posted 2021-September-10, 05:40

View Postthepossum, on 2021-September-09, 17:04, said:

Here are the hands. As I said the obvious diamond bid didn't often go wrong and the attempt at bringing down 4S went wrong due to me missing an obvious lead (I think). Partner led to my diamonds. I cashed the Ace of hearts and for some reason led something back other than a Club :(

So it was expensive, but fortunately in a meaningless hand






Did partner play the 2 on your ace lead to signal for a club switch?
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Posted 2021-September-10, 09:35

View Postthepossum, on 2021-September-09, 03:52, said:

Who knows how my brain was(or was not) functioning at the time. Its a curious hand since you can get 4S doubled down one but its hard to defeat 5 or 6 diamonds seemingly.

Somehow I rationalised a pass. Didn't want to risk a double and wasn't entirely confident of 5D


Somehow loss aversion kicks in. Doubling or bidding and getting a bad board because of it seems worse than passing and getting a bad board from it, but, of course in actuality, a bad board is a bad board.

A lot of players lose a lot of MPs or IMPs from loss aversion. Most club players never kick it (and keep getting 30% on boards for -110)
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Posted 2021-September-10, 15:32

View Postthepossum, on 2021-September-09, 03:52, said:

its hard to defeat 5 or 6 diamonds seemingly.
As soon as declarer picks up Q has 12 tricks.
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Posted 2021-September-10, 15:37

Here's another question that seems to raise itself from this deal - if E-W were NV and East had responded 5 (instead of 4) what would be your thinking in the South seat?
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Posted 2021-September-10, 15:56

View PostDavidKok, on 2021-September-09, 15:36, said:

Some people would double with + and pull 5


Interesting, does it have a name (claim to space in my limited memory)?
FWIW the better dinosaurs in my club would consider 4NT as both minors, the others as Blackwood B-)
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Posted 2021-September-11, 08:01

View Postpescetom, on 2021-September-10, 15:56, said:

Interesting, does it have a name (claim to space in my limited memory)?

Equal level conversion?

If you check back in the archives I think you can find some very weird stuff to play in this spot, mostly from Ken Rexford and Zelandahk. Probably just switching 4NT->5 and a direct 5 is about as complicated as it could ever get for well over 99% of players though with the vast majority not even knowing the standard defence.
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