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BPO-contestants' answers What info (if any) do you want

Poll: What information would you like to see (and be seen by others)? (32 member(s) have cast votes)

What information would you like to see (and be seen by others)?

  1. Every single answer, plus totals for answers (18 votes [56.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.25%

  2. Every answer that got 2+ votes (plus totals for answers) (2 votes [6.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

  3. The top two answers (1 votes [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

  4. The top (fill in blank) answers (3 votes [9.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.38%

  5. I am not interested in seeing contestants' answers (3 votes [9.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.38%

  6. I would prefer the contestants' answers not shown (2 votes [6.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

  7. Other (3 votes [9.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.38%

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#1 User is offline   Elianna 

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Posted 2005-June-15, 13:21

See this forum for more information:

http://forums.bridge...hp?showforum=30

And specifically look in the threads for BPO-3A and B for examples.

Note that the last two options are different. Choosing the second to last is akin to choosing "I don't care, this doesn't interest me", choosing the last says "Please don't display them"

I'm also making another poll that asks WHEN you'd like the totals shown. Other poll

Hopefully these all link to each other now.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 13:44

Hi,

I voted for others.

I would simply prefer the total numbers of votes,
for the different bids.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2005-June-15, 13:50

P_Marlowe, on Jun 15 2005, 03:44 PM, said:

Hi,

I voted for others.

I would simply prefer the total numbers of votes,
for the different bids.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I could be confused, but I thought that is option one. I read it as "every single vote" means every bid that got at least one vote. And "plus totals for answers" meaning the total for each one. Just like was done in post BPO-002A
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Posted 2005-June-15, 14:24

inquiry, on Jun 15 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Jun 15 2005, 03:44 PM, said:

Hi,

I voted for others.

I would simply prefer the total numbers of votes,
for the different bids.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I could be confused, but I thought that is option one. I read it as "every single vote" means every bid that got at least one vote. And "plus totals for answers" meaning the total for each one. Just like was done in post BPO-002A

In this case, hopefully Elianna counts my
vote for option 1.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I am a mathematician like Elianna, and hopefully
she will understand, that wording is sometimes ambiquious.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 14:24

inquiry, on Jun 15 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Jun 15 2005, 03:44 PM, said:

Hi,

I voted for others.

I would simply prefer the total numbers of votes,
for the different bids.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I could be confused, but I thought that is option one. I read it as "every single vote" means every bid that got at least one vote. And "plus totals for answers" meaning the total for each one. Just like was done in post BPO-002A

In this case, hopefully Elianna counts my
vote for option 1.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I am a mathematician like Elianna, and hopefully
she will understand, that wording is sometimes ambiquious. :) :D :P
With kind regards
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Posted 2005-June-15, 15:35

Thanks for moving everything here, where it belongs! (I didn't know who did it, but I hope that the person who did sees this and accepts my thanks.)

If the links don't work now that polls were moved, sorry.

Lastly, yes, Ben is right, I DID mean option one to cover what you said, P Marlowe. I'm sorry if the wording was ambiguous.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 16:49

My vote was for Others. I would like to see the totals for every sensible/plausible bid.

As these polls get popular with more participation, you are bound to get some typing errors and some wacky bids ( just for the fun of it) . I dont want to see these bids listed. After all this is possible as the answer is not a forced one from a choice of answers.

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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:07

Dwingo, on Jun 15 2005, 03:49 PM, said:

My vote was for Others. I would like to see the totals for every sensible/plausible bid.

As these polls get popular with more participation, you are bound to get some typing errors and some wacky bids ( just for the fun of it) . I dont want to see these bids listed. After all this is possible as the answer is not a forced one from a choice of answers.

While I understand your sentiment, I do not wish to be placed in the position of deciding what's "sensible" and what's not ( would interpret that as anything I wouldn't bid! :)).

What I COULD do, is wait until Ben posts the answers that received a score, and then only display the number of people who chose those answers.

Or, I could only display the most chosen three or four choices (funnily enough, these two subsets of bids, while intersecting, are not necessarily contained in each other (much less equal) for some of the questions)
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  Posted 2005-June-15, 17:30

I take the opposite stance there - I'd really like to see the more imaginitive bids that are suggested. I trust that people won't make calls without reasons, and it's fun to look at all the different possibilities.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:35

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What I COULD do, is wait until Ben posts the answers that received a score, and then only display the number of people who chose those answers


May not to be to my liking, but you decide. Experts think alike, less mortals like us have different views. Like in BPO-003 A the panelist were almost unanimous in 4D. Doesn't mean that other bids are not relevant for the discussion.



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Or, I could only display the most chosen three or four choices


This is very reasonable. Alternatively, you can list all bids that been discussed in the respective thread atleast once.

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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:44

For me with system debates, the choice is always about perfect complexity verses playably simplicity - in other words, how much "bang for my buck" am I getting to play a more complex style.

What I would like to see is a chart from a random hand generator that would for example show me how many times in a 1000 deals I would want to be able to stop in exactly 2S opposite a minimum reverse. This would give me an idea if the added memory work would be worth the time investment needed to learn a new system. Also, this would also allow me to compare the "winning" bid to randomly dealt hands and see how well the problem was really solved by the "top pick" action.

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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:48

Dwingo, on Jun 15 2005, 04:35 PM, said:

This is very reasonable. Alternatively, you can list all bids that been discussed in the respective thread atleast once.

I don't really intend to look through the thread, make note of all the bids, and then count. :)
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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:50

Winstonm, on Jun 15 2005, 04:44 PM, said:

For me with system debates, the choice is always about perfect complexity verses playably simplicity - in other words, how much "bang for my buck" am I getting to play a more complex style.

What I would like to see is a chart from a random hand generator that would for example show me how many times in a 1000 deals I would want to be able to stop in exactly 2S opposite a minimum reverse. This would give me an idea if the added memory work would be worth the time investment needed to learn a new system. Also, this would also allow me to compare the "winning" bid to randomly dealt hands and see how well the problem was really solved by the "top pick" action.

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Posted 2005-June-15, 17:54

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I hope that you don't want ME to do this for you!


No way, Eli. This looks more like work for Ben, LoL. :)
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Posted 2005-June-15, 21:16

My vote was for the answers which got 2+ votes ............ :)
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Posted 2005-June-15, 23:41

All responses + number of votes :D
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Posted 2005-June-16, 02:07

Free, on Jun 16 2005, 07:41 AM, said:

All responses + number of votes :D

Same !

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Posted 2005-June-16, 11:19

To those who prefer contestants' answers not shown: If it's because you don't wish your bids shown (counted) for this, please send me a private message and I won't count what you answered.

If it's for a different reason, could you please tell me why (either by posting here or private messaging).
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