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Posted 2005-June-10, 20:27

Why are were defending?

Lead a small diamond. maybe get ruff and/or suit pref. from P.
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Posted 2005-June-10, 21:12

Brutal, Ben.

Seems LHO has 8, 9 diamonds - spots left for 4/5 unknows.
RHO must hold similar spades - again 4/5 unknown cards.

Assuming relative sanity of all parties, East can see the vulnerability as well as I can, so he must be bidding as a make/no worse than 1-down option, and pard must have shape and decent values. Who might not have his bid?

What kind of hand makes sense for the east bid?
AKJ10xxx
x
x
Kxxx

Pretty frisky.

AKJ10xxx
void
J(x)
Kxx(x)?

More like it, but what does that leave for pard?
xx, QJ10xxxx, Ax(x), Q(x)?

Does everyone now have their bids? It appears so. If I have this right, I need to lead a diamond, either getting a ruff or disrupting declarer's communications.

I'm going to lead the 9 of diamonds, preparing suitable apologies if RHO pitches his losing heart on the A of diamonds.

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Posted 2005-June-11, 09:53

lolololol

r.e.: "assuming relative sanity of all parties".....

Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take?
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Posted 2005-June-11, 10:41

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Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take?


Of course you are right; we are, after all, talking of bridge players here. :D

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Posted 2005-June-12, 03:54

Winstonm, on Jun 11 2005, 04:41 PM, said:

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Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take?


Of course you are right; we are, after all, talking of bridge players here. :lol:

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I assumed that the "relative" meant relative to other bridge players, in which case it is quite alright.

Relative compared to the rest of the population is a deep postion to take, however.

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Posted 2005-June-12, 19:17

[quote name='EricK' date='Jun 12 2005, 04:54 AM'] WinstonM [/QUOTE]
I assumed that the "relative" meant relative to other bridge players, in which case it is quite alright.

Relative compared to the rest of the population is a deep postion to take, however.

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Posted 2005-June-12, 19:34

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Assuming relative sanity of all parties


Gee, is everyone REALLY this sensitive? For the record, this statement was intended as "Relative to the auction." In other words, everyone saw the vulnerability and no one made a totally ludicrous bid.

I never knew I was so provocative.

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Posted 2005-June-13, 07:58

Well, the question was what to lead, not how to continue the auction........ Obviously, everyone has a suit and a void (except us, naturally) thereby justifying their bids. The difficulty is how to find pard's shortness. With C length, he would just bid 6 clubs (offering a choice of slams) so he has the opp's suits.
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Posted 2005-June-13, 11:46

The fear that a heart might be trumped, and a club thrown away on diamond seems sound.... on the otherhand, what is partner doubling on? Certianly not a trick in hearts, certainly not the club ACE (we have those). So seems must be a spade or diamond trick. At the table, it turned out anything but low club or a spade would set this. What did partner have? You really don't want to know. But your last chance for a plus is 5 (doubled or not), and 6 clubs or 6H would have been really crushed.

Why did I choose to pass? The opponents were red and we where white. I suspected that partner might have been bidding 5 under a lot of pressure (he was), and poor splits might doom anything. Finally, my partner has nothing even vaguely indicating a doulble (spade void, Q high heart, two small diamonds, four small clubs). The only thing going for the double, is it would have worked if most of you had been his partner. On my spade lead, they had 15 or 16 top tricks...
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Posted 2005-June-15, 07:52

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What did partner have? You really don't want to know.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 08:15

Al_U_Card, on Jun 15 2005, 09:52 AM, said:

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What did partner have? You really don't want to know.
Au contraire, mon ami, I do, I do. :rolleyes:

This was more of a queston of what was the best lead. My partner had (are you ready for it?) this hand plus or minus a jack...

void
Qxxxxxx
xx
Qxxx

After my spade lead, declearer had 9S, and 8D tricks off the top. I could have cashed our two aces and waited for the spade Queen. (we have exactly one trick in each of our suits).

I considered the club ACE, but figured that partner must have club fit for his 5 bid as well. I considered heart ACE, but afraid dummy might be able to score a ruff with his singleton spade. So at worse, spade lead gives up one trick for another.
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Posted 2005-June-15, 08:21

Might I suggest that you moderate his medication?....lol They do say that pass is the most under used (or useful) bid. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-June-18, 09:03

A Clubs and then J clubs for partner to ruff and asking for a Heart return (if we are very lucky declarer and dummy will have 1 each then 10 Clubs for a heart continuation, if we get that far. A ruff- sluff should make no difference at this point.

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Posted 2005-June-18, 09:11

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Assuming relative sanity of all parties


I reiterate. :)
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